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Blowing drones out of the sky

Ron CzapalaRon Czapala Posts: 2,418
edited 2014-08-04 16:38 in General Discussion
WTF!

http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/2/5960881/silencerco-is-marketing-gun-silencers-by-blowing-drones-out-of-the-sky

A company is marketing gun silencers by blowing drones out of the sky

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  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-08-02 07:23
    As best I can recall, silencers in any form require a special ATF license. It doesn't matter what you are shooting at. The Drone doesn't care about the noise, so why all the stealth?

    I'm not particularly thrilled with the idea that everyone can have one, but it seems that may be so.

    http://www.silencerresearch.com/Silencerguide.pdf

    Meanwhile. the news here has been using a quad-copter (aka drone) with camera to survey the recent gas leak disaster. Great camera work and offered video of the air in real time. As a news camera platform, these are here to stay.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-08-02 08:17
    Great, very useful. I think bagging drones could be a great new pass time. And now it won't be as noisy and irritating.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2014-08-02 08:40
    That just makes it easier for my drone swarm to detect his heartbeat.
  • RsadeikaRsadeika Posts: 3,837
    edited 2014-08-02 08:54
    Start of a whole new hobby field. Since most city spaces would frown on real live ammo discharge, you could have a drone detect system. First you could have one of those laser do dads on your roof acting as a radar unit looking for drones entering your airspace. Once an enemy drone enters your air space the radar summons up a couple of your own drones to go out an investigate, if the enemy drone has not left, then one of the drones could get height on the enemy drone and squirt out some kind of sticky substance to foul up the props, once the enemy drone falls to the ground, then out rolls your Arlo. Arlo finds the drone, makes sure that the drone is no longer functioning, deploys the robot arm, grabs hold of the drone, and heads home. Once it is at home base the worker bots start to do there job ...

    Ray
  • Ron CzapalaRon Czapala Posts: 2,418
    edited 2014-08-02 09:06
    If you have the kind of money Martha Stewart has, you would be out-numbered...

    Martha Stewart Loves Drones
    For her birthday last year, the Katonah, New York, resident was given a drone fitted with a high-definition camera. She wrote that, after a quick introduction “to the mechanics of operating the contraption and a few words about its idiosyncrasies, I loaded the appropriate app on my iPad and went down to the beach. In just a few minutes I was hooked.”

    When asked if her neighbors had privacy concerns, she quipped "I have no neighbors." (see time 2:10 below)
  • GadgetmanGadgetman Posts: 2,436
    edited 2014-08-02 09:52
    Methinks it's time to revive a few old anti-airraft techniques..

    Balloons tethered with strong wires, nets strung up between them...

    Who can make an automatic net gun that doesn't feed the neighbourhood cats?

    Using shtguns is just too 'not right'.
    Sure, it's a modern version of Skeet, but...
    You want to protect your privacy, but by the tme you've downed that annoy-a-drone, whoever operated it got proof that you're in the area.
    (He may even have seen you fire the boom-stick)

    Also, REAL drones comes in all sizes, from 4" and up to repurposed fighter jets.
    Unless you're very, very watchful, and not even taking a break to do a 'number two', there's no way you're going to spot the smaller ones sneaking past.
    The larger ones can carry much bigger optics, so doesn't need to get within redneck range...
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-08-02 09:58
    Ok, we need anti-drone drones. All shapes and sizes to match those incoming predators. It's robot wars but in the sky!
  • rod1963rod1963 Posts: 752
    edited 2014-08-02 10:17
    Simply jam the bugger and when it crashes, toss it in the dumpster. No, muss no fuss.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-08-02 10:32
    "dumpster" ! You are not going to strip it for parts?
  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
    edited 2014-08-02 10:59
    Johnny Dronehunter... AMURI'CA!

    Videos like this are why we never get invited to those classy tea parties in other countries.. :)
  • GadgetmanGadgetman Posts: 2,436
    edited 2014-08-02 11:32
    Actually, it's because we don't want to risk the Americans showing up in Ford Pintos...

    But that video is a pretty decent runner up...
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-08-02 20:35
    I bought a helicopter for $70 bucks, flight time is only 10 to 15 minutes. Im going to use it to see if my son can shoot it out of the sky with his revolver or pistol , he's jumping through a lot of hoops to get a licence in Queensland.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-08-02 22:17
    Tattoos, thugs, guns, beat up Cadillac, etc.
    The American image that goes abroad isn't very wonderful.

    The right to privacy might be an issue to some extent, but does it extend to criminal activities?

    There is a certain irony that even the Russian thugs have to have their Harley-Davisons.
    en.for-ua.com/comments/2010/07/26/134830.html

    I get very mixed signals from this message. But whatever it is trying to say, I am wary. Every nation has a criminal element that is best not romanticized.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-08-02 22:45
    Loopy Byteloose wrote: »
    , I am wary. Every nation has a criminal element that is best not romanticized.
    Completely agree, there are a few tv series , apparently popular both home grown and from the US that do romanticize criminal gang activities. But they kill people, anyone just about, nothing amusing about that. I watched a couple of these episodes but that's all all. But I did have a giggle at criminals using drones to deliver contraband ;)

    Only the other night there was a TV 60 Minutes segment on an Australian that escaped from maximum via a helicopter his girlfriend hired for a joy ride then hijacked it and had it land on the oval just when her boyfriend was there. But she forgot to have a car waiting for them and it was the slowest smallest 3 seater helicopter made. He was not free very long. I think this has happened in the US too, or maybe Mexico ? The drone story reminded me of this. It was in the 80's it happened. I think the 60 Minutes episode was aired on the anniversary of the great escape. This crim, was a bank robber, had never hurt anyone other than traumatize bank staff. He got 15 years. Even Life is only 15 years in most cases here.
  • ctwardellctwardell Posts: 1,716
    edited 2014-08-03 08:41
    whiteoxe wrote: »
    I bought a helicopter for $70 bucks, flight time is only 10 to 15 minutes. Im going to use it to see if my son can shoot it out of the sky with his revolver or pistol , he's jumping through a lot of hoops to get a licence in Queensland.

    Very, very, very bad idea. Need to use a shotgun with bird shot. Have to always keep in mind the projectile is going to keep going beyond the target if it misses and to some degree possibly even if it does hit.

    Projectiles fired at angles between horizontal and vertical maintain significant velocity down range. People have been killed by fire "into the air" from considerable distance, I seem to recall on the order of a 1/2 mile or so.

    C.W.
  • Ron CzapalaRon Czapala Posts: 2,418
    edited 2014-08-03 08:56
    ctwardell wrote: »
    Very, very, very bad idea. Need to use a shotgun with bird shot. Have to always keep in mind the projectile is going to keep going beyond the target if it misses and to some degree possibly even if it does hit.

    Projectiles fired at angles between horizontal and vertical maintain significant velocity down range. People have been killed by fire "into the air" from considerable distance, I seem to recall on the order of a 1/2 mile or so.

    C.W.

    Even a .22 LR can be dangerous
    Even after flying 400 yd (370 m), a .22 bullet is still traveling about 500 ft/s (150 m/s)
    .
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2014-08-03 09:00
    Notice all the pyrotechnics? Quad don't explode like that. Does make for a good video though....NOT.... :)
  • Peter KG6LSEPeter KG6LSE Posts: 1,383
    edited 2014-08-03 09:05
    Ron Czapala wrote: »
    Even a .22 LR can be dangerous .

    forget privacy . If you discharge a firearm in to the air like that over a silly toy then I really hope the round comes back on said shooters head .
  • kwinnkwinn Posts: 8,697
    edited 2014-08-03 10:17
    rod1963 wrote: »
    Simply jam the bugger and when it crashes, toss it in the dumpster. No, muss no fuss.

    +1, but I would recycle the parts into something useful.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-08-03 10:49
    Ron Czapala wrote: »
    Even a .22 LR can be dangerous .
    I think it was possibly only a .22 ,may have been larger but years ago my uncle felt something go through his hair standing inside his house near a window, then he found a bullet on the floor at the wall. The bullet had hit the wall and stopped causing little or no damage to the wall , then it just dropped to the floor. It was quite strange.

    I was referring to going out shooting on a large farming property , different uncle this time. He does have a skeet thrower but it's always malfunctioning, He once woke me up at 1am when I worked there and handed me an M14 while I was throwing on clothes and he had some other rifle or shotgun himself. We found in the woods a bunch of fellows driving round hunting, we skidded to a stop and used our doors as cover while my uncle shouted out to them to drop everything. Afew blokes were standing up in the back of a land cruiser with rifles. My heart was pumping hard. It was my first time at this, uncle Deran had been there a few times in the past and had learnt to take no chances with illegal shooters !
  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
    edited 2014-08-03 11:14
    Loopy Byteloose wrote: »
    Every nation has a criminal element that is best not romanticized.

    So true..

    Interestingly, our violent crime rates have dropped significantly over the last few couple decades... Yet, the American people are more scared of "bad guys" than ever before..
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-08-03 11:24
    Has it? Not according to wikipedia, who are of course always right in these things. It seems to be up by a factor of four since 1960. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_crime

    Just recently I was reading about some scandal in Detroit where the cops had been under reporting crime by a factor 10.

    Who knows what the reality is?
  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
    edited 2014-08-03 11:45
    Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but this graph would seem to indicate a peek around 1992, then a downward trend since..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_crime#mediaviewer/File:Violent_Crime_in_the_United_States.png

    I should probably re-state my time period in my original post, but then you are probably right.. We see what we are "suppost" to see by our overlords. (grabs tin foil hat) :):)
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-08-03 12:05
    OBC,

    I was actually ignoring the peak and comparing the levels at the start and end dates.

    Sure it's down from the early 90's but still over a factor of four up from 1960.
  • TtailspinTtailspin Posts: 1,326
    edited 2014-08-03 12:35
    Oldbitcollector (Jeff) wrote: »
    ... We see what we are "suppost" to see by our overlords. (grabs tin foil hat) :):)
    I believe proper hat construction is very important, it is a mistake to have the shiny side out, if the shiny side is facing out, it will intensify the mind control effect.
    it's kind of like the mirrors used in interrogation rooms...:cool:

    I know this is true because I have read it on the internet..




    -Tommy
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2014-08-04 16:38
    I suppose that dude with the shotgun silencer has never heard of the NSA putting nanoscopic microphone/transmitter technology into tattoo ink. He doesn't even know he's a walking cellphone. Ha!
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