Parallax Humanoid - The next generation of robots?
mklrobo
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:nerd: with all this computational power Raspberry Pi and Popeller, (etc), and the advent of a life size robot for sale in September @ wallmart, is
the Humanoid robot platform an inevitability? Will hobbiests start developing the legs, arms, etc, to fit together in a software platform? What will
the purpose be? (engineering assistant, of course!)
the Humanoid robot platform an inevitability? Will hobbiests start developing the legs, arms, etc, to fit together in a software platform? What will
the purpose be? (engineering assistant, of course!)
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walking around. Surely, a platform could be made. They have made the Quadcopter, that has great balance. Would it not be a matter of programming? More power and
software capability is avaliable now, more that ever. BUT, are people afraid of life- like robots anyone can build? The future is upon us...........
might have to be a Raspeller for the legs, one for each arm, and then one for the head.(comm, sensor database,) Another
project to build......all right!
Tying boot laces is a complex operation, so you might be right, in that case. However, as my picture at the left, realistic uses for this type of
robot were "truely" depicted in the movie, "Silent Running". Playing cards, welding, assembly, storing items logistically, modular system repair,
and planting trees (surgery, but human supervisor) were some of the duties, and that was back then. To be sure, with the talented people in this
forum, a life-size robot could be built. The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step..........
Consider this;
Parallax made its square bot, and everyone has made software and build parts on that, so that now everyone could
build whatever sensors/devices they need for their robot, at this point.
If a "generic" life-like frame was adopted, like the Boe bot, hobbiests could build upon the part that they wanted to,
then contributed their work on this forum. Even tying boot laces would considered to be one, of many, procedures
in the humannoid library. Different walks, talks, abilities, would be platform libraries in which the user could
envoke, from his computer at home which would serve as a library "server".
Name the Humanoid, Chip, after the man writing the propeller assembly code.:cool:
I'm not even sure I understand why anyone would build a humanoid robot. For the costs and efforts involved it doesn't seem worth it. Two long legs and two arms with a high center of gravity seems like a bad design for any robot.
I guess the R&D yields all kinds of cool stuff, and it is fun to look at. Functionality wise, until anti-gravity comes out, I'd rather have four legs and one arm.
Got a link to the life size robot at Walmart?
Let's assume we could build a machine in a very human like form and that it has the smarts to take over all the jobs that humans do. After we have built about 7 billion of them we can all retire to the beach and let them provide for all our wants and needs.
However, I suggest that at least initially and for a long time our engineering skills will not be able to build such a machine that is as energy efficient as an actual human. To be generous lets say the machine takes ten times as much energy as a human to do all that walking and working.
That means the energy consumption required to use 7 billion of such robots is an order of magnitude greater than our current energy demands.
This is just not workable. It's much more efficient, i.e. cheaper, to use actual humans than humanoid robots.
True, True. it all comes down to money. I guess the robots will stick to the hazardous and repetative jobs they are doing now. The only exception would be alot of
people not wanting to work. People who have money and need work done, will need robots.(AND the techs to repair them) The energy needed would be astronomical.
Or, a more efficent robot not of human form, but of a different design.
I will have to find the link to the Wallmart advertisement, for the female robot.:frown:
Oh my.
giving a phase change to the metal. In this phase change, the metal constricts. Can you provide any link to the silicone membrane documentation? I have
been playing (on calculations) with the concept of an organic CPU. The two might be related.
targeting to use, is called material science. A material scientist examines the nessesary elements to be used, develops a dedicated formula focused on the Equation of State of
the process. I have been playing with light on Jellyfish for memory processing.(materials that is) Movement could also be used, with control. I am working on trying to print out a model of
a neural net on my printer paper, to set up a matrix. (Toner conducts, providing) After the neural net is proven, I can move to the next process.
+1 It's surprising how under appreciated the human (and animal) brain and nervous system is.
Can you even imagine a robot that would be capable of visually identify a small airborne object, estimating it's trajectory, moving to the location it is expected to land, and catching it before it hits the ground? Yet young children, dogs, and various other animals can catch balls, frisbee's, and other objects with ease.
Why would a fuel cell give anyone cancer? It is a device that converts a hydrocarbon or hydrogen fuel into water and carbon dioxide to produce electricity.
Start by looking at how animals do it and try to do the same or something similar?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1597902824/agic-print-printing-circuit-boards-with-home-print
And the Danes managed to print fuel cells with a HP Inkjet printer...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/05/29/how_about_printing_your_electricity/
Short of all out nuclear war, a comet, or an asteroid ending all life on earth this is the worst calamity that could happen. Can you even imagine what 7 billion bored beyond description people could come up with to entertain themselves? The end of civilization for sure.
Back in the 1980's I worked for a company involved in the development of the Seawolf missile. That thing could detect, track and hit an incoming artillery shell!
Or then there is the ping-pong playing robots: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_qN3dgYGqE
But, In general yes, I agree with you.
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Impressive achievements, but a far cry from what an athletic 10 year old can do. Missiles accomplish their targeting with equipment specifically designed for that one task, and the robots are performing under controlled conditions on top of having specialized hardware.
When a bipedal robot can run down a field and catch a ball that was hit in a semi-random trajectory I'll be more impressed. IMHO we have a long way to go before humanoid robots can replace people in all but the most repetitive tasks.
I'm doing pneumatic. The micro valves are a bit large and heavy, but the accutators themselves are very light weight. They don't have a very large stroke.
If I say its impossible for a humanoid robot to tie boot laces, does that mean someone has to build one to prove me wrong? This actually sounds like a good place to start.
And end up with something like this?
:frown: I could not find that link yet, but I am working on it.:frown:
somewhere on youtube.......