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  • TCTC Posts: 1,019
    edited 2014-07-11 03:49
    PJ Allen wrote: »
    About

    If you wrapped enameled or insulated wire around a bit, or a nail, as when winding a simple electro-magnet, that stands to reason (the principle, if not the stated "1ohm" result.)
    But you're trying to fabricate a heating element.

    I assume that enamel vapors or melting insulation wouldn't accentuate the vape experience.

    But if it's uninsulated wire then the windings will short out, and even if there is space between windings then the wire will short to the bit (assuming it's not a ceramic or plastic bit.)

    The drill bit is only a form to copy. The wire is rapped around the bit, the bit is removed, then a wick is placed inside the coil.Attachment not found.. Nichrome wire forms a protective layer of chromium oxide when it is heated. The chromium oxide acts as an insulator.

    BTW, about that 30amp load on a Lithium ion cell...

    It seems that anything over 2C (C being the rated AmpHour capacity) is highly unstable. So you would have to have a 15AH rated Lithium ion cell to get a stable 30amp load working right.... most are 2.5AH or less in the 18650 package.

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?84980-2400mAh-LG-18650-cell-discharge-graph

    HA!!! I knew it!! Thanks for the link. Now I have proof when someone says they have a 30A 18650 battery. That they are wrong.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-07-11 06:18
    Well, it is not as if everyone on the internet is fact checking what they pass on.
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  • TCTC Posts: 1,019
    edited 2014-07-11 10:05
    Well, it is not as if everyone on the internet is fact checking what they pass on.

    Agreed
  • Mark_TMark_T Posts: 1,981
    edited 2014-07-13 06:24
    Just a safety note - if you are contemplating experimenting with vaporising nicotine you
    have to be ultra careful as nicotine is extremely poisonous, spilling pure nicotine liquid
    on your skin can be fatal due to rapid skin-absorption... Its also highly inflamable
    and soluable in alcohols (also a fire risk) Any hot-wire system fraught with danger
    of fire/explosion.

    Basically don't touch it, stick to licenced legal e-cigs where there is at least some
    quality control!
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    edited 2014-07-13 06:52
    Suggest you google thebattery specs. If its a 30C then it is capable of delivering 30A.

    My wife was a heavy smoker for many years. She gave up and went cold turkey when we got engaged. Never looked back and that was 35 years ago. Our second son smoked and always said hecould give up any time but didnt want to. When hestartd going steady,he tried to give up a number of times. He finally gave up cold turkey alittle beforehe married. BTW cold turkey means no other aids.
  • RS_JimRS_Jim Posts: 1,766
    edited 2014-07-13 07:39
    In the fall of 1988, my Dr. announced that I had the onset of emphysema. My instant vision was that of towing an O2 bottle every where I went. Not how I wanted to spend the rest of my life. I went cold turkey from a 3 pack a day habit. After a miserable month, I was clean and started feeling better. In recent years, no chest X-ray has shown any signs of the emphysema. At this point, the month of hell was well worth it. Recently my employer announced a change in the no smoking policy to include the electronic cigarettes. To a nonsmoker they are just as bad as the real thing. Good luck with your quest,it sounds like you have found a support right here.
    Jim
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-07-13 11:27
    [h=1]Turnigy 2200Mah 11.1V 3S 20C-30C Lipo Battery[/h]These are not 18650 Lithium cells, but that can deliver 20C steady and 30C bursts according to the sellers.. or amy 30C steady and 40C bursts.

    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9394
  • dmagnusdmagnus Posts: 271
    edited 2014-07-13 12:34
    In the fall of 1978, for my daughter's golden birthday, I quit a three pack a day habit that I had for about 15 years. I didn't do it cold turkey. I had a very good support program that I paid $250 for (a LOT for me in those days). It consisted of a bunch of mechanisms such as marking down every cigarette you smoked, not being able to smoke for increasing times after eating and going to bed and getting up in the morning. No smoking while watching TV, or drinking anything but milk or orange juice (every tried smoking while drinking those?). Anyway, over a period of 5 weeks, with weekly support meetings, I quit two days before my daughter's birthday. It helped that I was sick an tired of getting up in the morning feeling like the cat had used my mouth for a litter box, coughing my lungs up al the time and stinking to high heaven. You never realize until you quit how disgusting you are to others. I never had any desire to smoke, smoke (and smokers) are very irritating to me now and I am a healthy 70 years old. Of course, I gained a little weight, but I blame my wife's good cooking on that.
    You don't "give up" smoking - you QUIT! You're on the right track with the word in your subject line.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2014-07-13 12:44
    Mark_T wrote: »
    Just a safety note - if you are contemplating experimenting with vaporising nicotine you
    have to be ultra careful as nicotine is extremely poisonous, spilling pure nicotine liquid
    on your skin can be fatal due to rapid skin-absorption... Its also highly inflamable
    and soluable in alcohols (also a fire risk) Any hot-wire system fraught with danger
    of fire/explosion.

    Basically don't touch it, stick to licenced legal e-cigs where there is at least some
    quality control!

    Based on this input and the OP, are there really people out there building their own "mods"? This seems insane to me. Of course, I've never smoked so I'm not in any position to judge or comment.
  • TCTC Posts: 1,019
    edited 2014-07-13 14:13
    I am sorry I have not been on here for a couple days, but I will explain...

    I am going to quit smoking as of tomorrow, Monday 7-13-14

    I am quoting cold turkey. The reason is, my 75 year old dad had a stroke on Friday, and I am going to be more worried about getting him help, and getting him moved from Florida to Ohio, so he can live with me and my wife.

    I want to thank everyone for the support, life stories, and the encouragement.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2014-07-13 14:17
    Sorry to hear about your dad! That's a rough road I've been down a couple times. My thoughts and prayers are with are with you as you tackle both challenges.
  • TCTC Posts: 1,019
    edited 2014-07-13 15:11
    mindrobots wrote: »
    Sorry to hear about your dad! That's a rough road I've been down a couple times. My thoughts and prayers are with are with you as you tackle both challenges.

    Thank you so much. This is my first trip down this road. So far, it sucks. But I have to travel it.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-07-14 09:46
    Changing roles from being the adult child in a family to be the care giver for an elderly parent is a big change. You need to take good care of yourself as well as your dad.
    It may be a good time to quit smoking or it may not. The main thing is that you should try to take things slowly and reasonably. And let your wife and Dad and other family members know you care about all of them.

    Matters will sort out... hopefully in a good way without a lot of stress and drama. Good luck to you.
  • TCTC Posts: 1,019
    edited 2014-07-14 15:03
    Changing roles from being the adult child in a family to be the care giver for an elderly parent is a big change. You need to take good care of yourself as well as your dad.
    It may be a good time to quit smoking or it may not. The main thing is that you should try to take things slowly and reasonably. And let your wife and Dad and other family members know you care about all of them.

    Matters will sort out... hopefully in a good way without a lot of stress and drama. Good luck to you.

    Thank you Loopy. I could not quit cold turkey, but I have not touched a cancer stick all day, and I have limited how many times I have used my vape.
  • localrogerlocalroger Posts: 3,451
    edited 2014-07-14 16:35
    About that battery -- not long ago I got one of these:

    http://www.makershed.com/products/micro-quadcopter-with-camera

    The micro quadrotor is supplied with a li-ion battery claimed to be rated for 500 mAH and giving seven minutes of flight time on a charge. Doing the math suggests the craft is drawing about 5 amps while it flies, so 30 amps for a 2300 mAH pack doesn't seem out of the question.
  • TCTC Posts: 1,019
    edited 2014-07-15 20:38
    localroger wrote: »
    About that battery -- not long ago I got one of these:

    http://www.makershed.com/products/micro-quadcopter-with-camera

    The micro quadrotor is supplied with a li-ion battery claimed to be rated for 500 mAH and giving seven minutes of flight time on a charge. Doing the math suggests the craft is drawing about 5 amps while it flies, so 30 amps for a 2300 mAH pack doesn't seem out of the question.

    I think what might need to happen is to test the clams. But do it unbiased, and scientificly. What would be the proper way to test the battery?
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2014-07-15 22:51
    TC wrote: »
    Thank you Loopy. I could not quit cold turkey, but I have not touched a cancer stick all day, and I have limited how many times I have used my vape.

    Quitting is a process, the best thing to do is understand that not quitting is an even larger process.

    http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/sources/tobacco.html

    http://www.healthline.com/health-slideshow/quit-smoking-timeline#3
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-07-15 23:27
    Just maybe a local face-to-face support group for one or both situations would be wise.

    Is there a social worker with the medical staff managing your dad's stroke? They might suggest people that you can network with about making good decisions about your dad and your smoking.

    One can only do or say so much over the internet without it getting odd, maybe unhelpful.
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2014-07-16 00:18
    Loopy it sounds like you're familiar with this kind of issue. Your inquiry isn't odd, nor unhelpful. Positive reinforcement is the cure.

    We can share code, designs and phunny jokes. Often the simple things, like good advice and positive reinforcement are much harder. On a forum where I see people looking out for the best interests of everyone. Everyone here has something to offer. Everyone here has a story and a life experience that often extends past building projects, PASM and for the love of god, shields.

    TC, everyone here wants to see you achieve your goal, and appreciates your situation and wants nothing more than you to achieve your goals.

    I haven't experienced anything less, nor would I expect anything less of this forum, or its members.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-07-16 08:27
    A. With the care-giving situation for a parent transitioning into long-term care.
    Each locality is different as far as available resources. If you happen to be in a good place, why not take advantage of those resources that are available?
    Being well-informed can save a huge amount of money.

    B. With smoking.
    Nicotine is addictive and there is a a week or so of physical and psychological withdrawal. There is no shame in participating in a group to get through the tough part.
  • TCTC Posts: 1,019
    edited 2014-07-16 15:16
    I just want to let everyone know, I do read all the comments. But I am on my phone until late next week. I like to use my computer to comment.

    But I can say, everyone on the parallax forum are like good friends. We laugh together, we cry together, we argue together, and no matter what we are there for each other. I have been on other forums, but this is my home forum, and I will never leave.
  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2014-07-16 16:41
    Best wishes to you TC.
    Nicotine is addictive and there is a a week or so of physical and psychological withdrawal. There is no same in participating in a group to get through the tough part.


    Caffeine is much harder to get over. I seriously tried giving it up once. The first 4 days was one constant maddening headache. The next week was ankle, knee, and other joint pains. The week after was restless nights kicking in my sleep. Finally all that subsided, but I simply couldn't wake up for a week solid. Finally I gave in again. I've been told it takes 6 months to be completely finished with caffeine withdrawal.
  • localrogerlocalroger Posts: 3,451
    edited 2014-07-16 20:01
    What would be the proper way to test the battery?

    Well you need a dummy load -- basically a really big power resistor capable of dissipating all the energy stored in the battery as heat. That is a tall order for a 30 amp load at ~3.5V. That's basically about 100 watts for the 5 minutes it will take the battery to fully discharge. I would start by lookng up the resistance of say 24 gauge solid hookup wire and seeing how many feet would be needed to make an appropriate resistor; I suspect it would be a reasonable amount. You will need to then measure to verify the resistance, and since you won't be able to measure currents that high you'll have to measure the voltage across the load as the battery discharges.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-07-18 08:53
    jazzed wrote: »
    Best wishes to you TC.




    Caffeine is much harder to get over. I seriously tried giving it up once. The first 4 days was one constant maddening headache. The next week was ankle, knee, and other joint pains. The week after was restless nights kicking in my sleep. Finally all that subsided, but I simply couldn't wake up for a week solid. Finally I gave in again. I've been told it takes 6 months to be completely finished with caffeine withdrawal.

    Well, I still swill down two or more lattes per day. I am not a saint by any means. Some might say I am in denial as I don't consider caffeine a problem.
    I won't touch sugar any longer as it is too hard to keep down weight and contributes to diabetes and the wealth of my dentist.
    Salt is a non-issue for me. From what I understand only 30% of the population suffer from hypertension via excessive salt.

    I just haven't smoked or consumed tobacco since 1983. And I happen to be much healthier that my dad at age 66. I feel lucky to be ahead of the game with a few good years ahead of me.
    All I know is that withdrawl symptoms won't stop until 10 or so days after your last nicotine. Tapering off may just may the transistion period longer and more unpleasant.

    Some people get more motivated by a group; and others, including myself, feel more comfortable just stopping alone. I just did it and didn't tell anyone.

    _________
    I00 watt resistors are available, but expensive. One can build out of cheaper 20watt resistors, 5 in parallel.
  • GenetixGenetix Posts: 1,754
    edited 2014-07-18 13:09
    Most doctors agree that smoking is bad for you but the results are mixed when it comes to caffeine. There are studies that keep showing drinking coffee and tea are good for you but studies on smoking only show how bad it is. Too much of anything isn't good for you but I would think a doctor preferred that you drank coffee to smoking.

    Drink to your health instead of smoking yourself into the grave.
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