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Internet speeds..how do you rank?

Too_Many_ToolsToo_Many_Tools Posts: 765
edited 2014-08-23 16:37 in General Discussion
FYI..

http://news.yahoo.com/u-broadband-speeds-improving-still-far-behind-global-153520489.html

IMHO...Internet speeds indicate a country's future technological and economical potential..
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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2014-07-03 21:32
    Between 6 and 12 Mbps download, 2 Mbps upload. (Cable)

    -Phil
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2014-07-03 22:23
    @Too_Many_Tools, FWIW, Do you ever actually work on any projects, or do you just hang out on the various Forums asking questions about off the wall topics?
  • Too_Many_ToolsToo_Many_Tools Posts: 765
    edited 2014-07-03 23:43
    NWCCTV wrote: »
    @Too_Many_Tools, FWIW, Do you ever actually work on any projects, or do you just hang out on the various Forums asking questions about off the wall topics?

    LOL..I do both...don't you? ;<)

    FWIW...The best designers have many diverse interests.
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2014-07-03 23:53
    I just find it a bit odd that all we ever see from you are posts about off the wall issues. I have yet to see any posts about any of your "projects".

    EDIT: Although I am not from Missouri, if you are going to claim to be the "best" at something you should have a way to back it up and show us.
  • Too_Many_ToolsToo_Many_Tools Posts: 765
    edited 2014-07-08 20:14
    NWCCTV wrote: »
    I just find it a bit odd that all we ever see from you are posts about off the wall issues. I have yet to see any posts about any of your "projects".

    EDIT: Although I am not from Missouri, if you are going to claim to be the "best" at something you should have a way to back it up and show us.

    Why do you ask?

    Does the ISP post bother you?
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2014-07-08 20:19
    It bothers me if I'm not in the 95th percentile. http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3580153394

    speedtest.jpg
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2014-07-08 20:36
    Upload faster than download? And hundreds of Mb/s? Are you sure you don't live in S. Korea? (BTW, if you'll pardon my asking, how much do you pay a month for that kind of speed?)

    -Phil
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-07-08 22:30
    Phil,
    Upload faster than download?
    My upload and download speeds are normally about the same, hovering around 11Mbps.
    Oddly last month my upload speed was getting up to 30Mbps while download was about 10Mbps.
    That was so weird I had to check it every day, it only lasted for a week or so.

    Anyway, not bad for 5 euro per month.
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2014-07-09 00:03
    I pay $400/mo for Internap and another $60/U/mo but I'm grandfathered in since 2006. Currently I have a total of 24U rack space (80 amps) and 16,000 GB/mo transfer along with 25 static IPs across 4 co-locations, five m0n0wall Soekris routers and three layer three Cisco L3 switches. I incur about $440/yr hardware costs and $110/mo labor averaged out over five years including manufacturer warranty services.

    It's all metered, unlike residential. If you have a residential unmetered account, just like money, bandwidth doesn't grow on trees. If you have the speed you pay for it's because the subscribers on your node aren't p2p, netflix, AMZN prime, etc.
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2014-07-09 00:10
    Heater. wrote: »
    Phil,

    My upload and download speeds are normally about the same, hovering around 11Mbps.
    Oddly last month my upload speed was getting up to 30Mbps while download was about 10Mbps.
    That was so weird I had to check it every day, it only lasted for a week or so.

    Anyway, not bad for 5 euro per month.

    Not bad at all. Does that come with terms of service against running public services and include dynamic IP?
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2014-07-09 00:30
    Here's my Chicago path...

    [video=youtube_share;0gcr2YL_jL8]

    I'm not complaining, I'm also not trying to download 30 HD movies a day on my home internet...
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-07-09 00:48
    Probably, I have never read the small print. I get a public facing dynamic IP which gets resolved by afraid.org. Sometimes my nginx is actually up and running and it's nice to be able to ssh in from around the world. So it does not get much use as a server and the provider has never complained.
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2014-07-09 01:08
    Dynamic host names are great, if port 22 is open the ISP probably doesn't care. Over here we usually see 22 and 25 blocked on non-commercial accounts because they flood the spam filters with dynamic IPs which come from pretty large pools.
  • TorTor Posts: 2,010
    edited 2014-07-09 06:21
    In Japan my upload speed is always higher than my download speed. Typically somewhere around 20-30Mb download, 30-40Mb upload. At work in Norway it's the other way around, as almost everywhere. About 90Mb/s down, only 23Mb/s up at the moment.. on a supposedly 100/100 line.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-07-09 15:07
    new optus speed test.jpg
    The upload was 684kbps, I wanted to capture the pic before it changed ;) Thats just a garden variety city phone line. about 1.7meg/sec standard. Brother a few miles away has cable and gets 2Meg/sec easily. My relatives 0n properties 50 kilometers from a town had such poor speed it was hopeless to watch youtube, but since they got the new national broadband it makes my 1.7Meg/sec a joke, they now get almost 10Meg/sec download. No wires, just a tower a couple of kilometers away !
    new optus speed test.jpg
    1024 x 576 - 43K
  • pmrobertpmrobert Posts: 673
    edited 2014-07-09 18:07
    http://stage.results.speedtest.comcast.net/result/558782724.png


    Slow tonight, though the V4/V6 difference is always there - usually 40/30 for V4 and 90/50 for V6.
    Does anyone know if IPv6 is inherently "faster" than V4 or is my ISP just doing what ISPs do?
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    edited 2014-07-09 19:27
    I have been in S.Korea for the past 4+ weeks but just returned home. Had great internet while there.
    Just tried to run the speedtest here (~100km north of Sydney, Australia) but alas, something is amiss between flash and javascript.
  • msrobotsmsrobots Posts: 3,709
    edited 2014-07-09 19:42
    Guys you are lucky.

    Here up Hill in Lake County, CA I am stuck with 3.02 Mbs down and 0.70 Mbs upload for $72. a month. Connected via Air-link to a mountain 1.7 miles away...

    Enjoy!

    Mike
  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
    edited 2014-07-09 20:33
    http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3615202280

    Pretty much getting what I pay for which is impressive when i see some customers... 10MB DSL with Unlimited Phone/several packages $80.00
  • Too_Many_ToolsToo_Many_Tools Posts: 765
    edited 2014-07-13 15:29
    LOL..at the cabin the best I see is 48k. ;<)

    A country is only as competitive as its least capable member...which in terms of America numbers in the millions because of insufficent Internet resources.

    FYI...

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324731304578189794161056954

    http://www.speedmatters.org/blog/archive/broadband-still-slow-in-rural-america/

    The state of ISP speeds in the United States is a disgrace compared to the rest of the world...making it a "Third World" country in terms in relation to its competition.

    It has been noted by many that the lack of competitiveness is affecting US economic gains.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-07-13 17:03
    what I hate is even though my phone number is silent (unlisted) is constant calls from companies offering me better deals and most are not as they stack on hidden charges. its annoying, I like to be polite but sometimes I just hang up in frustration it was the third this week ;)
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2014-07-13 17:29
    pmrobert wrote: »
    http://stage.results.speedtest.comcast.net/result/558782724.png


    Slow tonight, though the V4/V6 difference is always there - usually 40/30 for V4 and 90/50 for V6.
    Does anyone know if IPv6 is inherently "faster" than V4 or is my ISP just doing what ISPs do?

    The best way to find this out would be on a LAN, public speed tests add in too many variables to get a good baseline.

    IPv6 uses 128 bit addresses (16 octets!) vs. IPv4 which uses 32 bits (quad dotted notations, whew...). The added address space adds a small amount of overhead, but probably not enough for a speed test to detect. Most IPv6 services have IPv4 disabled and that is why they seem faster, because they're less busy due to the fact not many have IPv6 connections.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2014-07-13 17:54
    300 baud dialup on a green monochrome screen. If it's good enough for Red Oktober, it's good enough for me. I still love that movie.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2014-07-13 18:11
    +1 ping only. :0)
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2014-07-13 18:19
    mindrobots wrote: »
    +1 ping only. :0)

    Thus it all comes full circle back to PING and sonar= PING-dar: http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php/156333-A-couple-questions-about-Ping-Sensors?
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2014-07-13 18:30
    I feel a disturbance in the forth with all this talk of Pingdar lately.

    It was either something about pings or "Crazy Erics" at the bottom of the hour!

    Now, I'm going to have to watch that movie soon.
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2014-07-13 19:32
    Running Centurylink I get 5.55 Mbps Down and .52Mbps Up. During the week it seems to be a bit higher. I pay for the 7 Mbps. I have been thinking of getting a higher speed. The problem is I use a 3rd party ISP that I really like and am loyal to. His speed can not go past 7 Mbps on DSL and he does not support Cable. Within the next 2 weeks I will be switching my Centurylink account to Internet only and dropping my phone line. I am tired of paying for a line that rarely gets used. If Comcast would not try so hard to sell me ALL of their services I would consider cable. However, I do not download movies or music so the speed I have suits me. I use Netflix and Amazon Prime and they seem to work just fine.
  • W9GFOW9GFO Posts: 4,010
    edited 2014-08-22 22:32
    Since moving to Olalla I have had some pretty dismal DSL speeds. The best I've gotten was 6, normally around 4 and sometimes less than 1*. But today that has all changed. We switched to Cable. Now I am getting over 100 down, 10 up and pings in the low 20s. The catch is the cable modem and wireless router is about 100 ft away in the pump house and I am losing a bunch of speed via the wifi signal. I had them install it in the pump house because they have a limit on the length of the drop, and it is easier for me that way due to planned earthmoving and construction. I have ordered 1000ft of direct burial cat6 cable along with a couple gigabit switches. Soon I will have the whole placed connected.

    *We just had another home put on our property, I did all the dirt work and trenching. That house, with it's brand new phone cable gets a consistent 10Mbs connection. It connects up to the same pedestal as our house. For the last year we have been having century link come out to try to fix our dismal speeds. I think the problem is the 30 year old phone line. They disagree saying "copper is copper" and refuse to replace it, even though that is the only difference between the two homes. I ask why the other house gets such better speeds and they say that they don't know and that it shouldn't be that fast. There is about a 50ft difference in the length of the lines so that does not account for the consistent 3Mbs lower speed. Now we will be canceling century link on both homes and sharing the cable.
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2014-08-22 22:47
    Rich, It is possible that the ISP needs to "condition" the line. I had an issue with Centurylink last year very similar to this. I was only getting about half of the speed I was paying for, After doing some testing, the technician, who was actually quite knowledgeable, found that one of my 4 wires was disconnected at the pole. (This was for my Fax line which I no longer used and thought my modem had just gone out). Anyhow, after reconnecting the line we still had the same issue. I use a third party ISP and the tech asked me to call him and have him condition the line. I did and once that was done my speed was back to where it was suppose to be.

    EDIT: If you want them to replace the cable from pole to house, have an oversized semi cruise through!!! My line use to get clipped about every two months. I finally told them to take it up as high as they could legally take it. But I did get new phone wires.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-08-22 23:31
    Not sure what 'line conditioning' might entail, or if it is a bunch of nonsense. Nothing annoys me more in this world that the service contracts for telecommunications, the presentation of bank account choices, or the finance options presented by a dealer when buying a new car.... all are snake oil. They know they are refusing to clearly explain anything. It is just plain insulting and rude.

    My impression after 25 years of internet service is that your bandwidth is shared with others unless you pay for dedicated lines and the actual speed delivered is something less than a highly optimistic contractual rate. At peak service hours, the rates slow down and on certain holidays the whole system seems to bog down.

    Furthermore, if you intend to use your internet internationally, all bets are off. The speed you contracted for tends to fall apart as soon as you go outside your country unless you have some special regional arrangements.

    Since all the ISPs in Taiwan have to at some point hook up with the nationalized telephone company, I have stayed with that telephone company.
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