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Do you like modern Art ?

whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
edited 2014-07-02 10:53 in General Discussion
Last week i watched a Tv show on Australian abc about our greatest living painter, in his 80's. A very nice fellow, but i don't know what to think about the whole modern art thing. It struck me that i could produce something great myself. so as a joke /experiment i bought a canvass for $4,99(they must come from china) and a few cheap water based paints, two water pistols. then i diluted the paint just enough so the paint would squirt.

I was just having fun but i really liked the end result, not enough that id ever buy it but i bet a modern art lover woud , hee, hee :)

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  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
    edited 2014-07-01 17:02
    Art doesn't have to be complicated to be appeciated...

    I'm a fan of these space scenes.. Most are generated by street artists with a few cans of spray paint and a few caps/lids...
  • ellipserellipser Posts: 43
    edited 2014-07-01 18:35
    Modern art is ugly as s**t.

    It an abuse of the word "art" to even call it "modern art".

    In order for something to be art, it has to require talent to make it. Some crappy welds, some randomly splashed on paint, some random pieces of steel do not make something artistic. When some rich idiot buys a piece of scrap metal for $1,000,000 the joke is on him.

    I once went to a shop to get some sand-blasting done on a table top. I saw what looked like scrap metal sitting around, and I asked the owner of the shop what in the heck was that thing. It looked like some pieces of expanded-metal flooring welded together at impossible angles, and then left out in a field to rust for a few years. He said that someone thought it was "art" and he was going to sand-blast it. Total s**t.

    I once went to the Detroit Institute of the Arts to look at some art. I took a seat on a bench to enjoy something very beautiful. Well, the security guard told me to stand up, and I didn't know why until someone told me that the "bench" was actually a piece of modern "art". It was perfect to sit down on, btw. Modern "art" really is that bad. You can't tell it apart from just an ordinary bench.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-07-01 19:06
    @ oldbit, that is pretty cool.

    @ ellipser , your going to love my video, ive got a cold so my voice is bad,but my painting is worse ;)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpT55H2glsM&list=UURDxAp_6ekyP5gVLrhCJYog
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2014-07-01 21:35
    Asking whether one likes "modern art" is like asking whether they like "food" or "books." The term "modern art" encompasses a vast variety of works that were produced from the 1860's up through the 1970's or so, including impressionism, expressionism, cubism, dadaism ... the list goes on and on. "Modern artists" include not only Mondrian (colored rectangular tesselations) and Pollock (paint splatters), but also Picasso, Van Gogh, Gauguin, ... Here's a painting by Van Gogh:

    220px-Van_Gogh_-_Country_road_in_Provence_by_night.jpg\

    It's an example of "modern art" the same as an eclair is an example of "food." I think it's a pretty cool painting.

    Before one dares lump more than a century's worth of artistic endeavor together to like or dislike as a whole, he might do well to learn more about the subject. Then he can pick and choose which styles or which artists he prefers or doesn't prefer. There's much to discover in the vast field of "modern art." It's a fascinating journey if you just make the effort.

    -Phil
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-07-01 23:27
    another out of the blue topic.

    Having had three years of consecutive studies in art history and history of architecture in university, I have to contribute "no comment" other than I suspect this is going to morph into a philosophical debate about what art is and what are good aesthetics.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2014-07-01 23:29
    For years I had seen photos of Jackson Pollock's spills and splatterings and had considered the stuff obviously bogus. Then one day I was in the Met in New York for the first time, walked up some stairs, and when I turned around, I was unexpectedly "confronted" by one of Pollock's huge splattery paintings - the first Pollock I had ever seen "in person." I think I literally gasped. The impact was visceral. And while my intellect informed me that it was merely a bunch of splatterings and drips, I could not get over the emotional impact it had on me. I was very surprised. Over the years, I saw plenty of paintings done by other artists using a similar technique, but I was baffled by why nobody else seemed to be able to replicate the same feelings. Later on, at another museum, I came across a painting that was mostly white but had this "hairy"-like contour that seemed to plunge into an abyss. It freaked me out. I couldn't stop gazing at it. Finally, I stepped up and read the ID tag. It had been done my Pollock, and it really surprised me because it didn't look much like anything else I had seen him do. I think there's something freaky about some art, and some artists. Certainly, much of it is total Smile. But some of it seems to tap into another dimension and just blows my mind.

    van_gogh.jpg
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-07-02 06:37
    another out of the blue topic.

    you sound like my brother, but not as annoyed !! but i needed a reminder.

    But to finish what i started i was referring to the most simplistic looking art as my least favourite. It could even be described as mob mentality (those really connected to the industry, flowing down to the man in the street) or like the tulip bubble /stockmarket in Scandinavia, when tulips made millionairs out of people before sending many broke when over night folks started to realise they were just flowers ;)

    There is probably no real right or wrong answer , just opinions, and probably best left for a dinner party for the sake of a fun argument !
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-07-02 06:45
    whiteoxe

    The tulip mania was in Holland. Scandinavian countries are not famous for their tulip growing.

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2013/10/economic-history
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2014-07-02 07:19
    whiteoxe wrote: »
    @ oldbit, that is pretty cool.

    @ ellipser , your going to love my video, ive got a cold so my voice is bad,but my painting is worse ;)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpT55H2glsM&list=UURDxAp_6ekyP5gVLrhCJYog

    I think making the question mark central to your painting is a brilliant expression of you questioning of modern art. As you focus from the edges of your canvas to the central question mark, the viewer can travel with you on your journey of seeking and discovering the true meaning of appreciation for one modern art style.

    Well done!!

    What Phil said so well (again).

    And then what you said here,
    ...as my least favourite.

    The trick with art is that personal interpretation thing. It's both a personal expression from the artist and also a personal interpretation/acceptance from the viewer. It's hard to say something is good or bad art. If it evokes emotion or reaction from a viewer, it has done it's job. (It really doesn't even need to be a pleasant reaction or emotion - some "art" is downright disturbing and can reflect the horror, torment or despair in the artist's soul). Can you empathize with their vision as you possibly could empathize with an authors written words?
  • bill190bill190 Posts: 769
    edited 2014-07-02 09:41
    I think "modern art" is an excuse for those who can't reproduce realistic renderings of people/scenes.

    To me, the more it looks like a picture of the subject, the better the artist!
  • TtailspinTtailspin Posts: 1,326
    edited 2014-07-02 10:18
    I don't think "art" is confined to canvas only...
    Where is the line drawn?
  • jonesjones Posts: 281
    edited 2014-07-02 10:23
    bill190 wrote: »
    I think "modern art" is an excuse for those who can't reproduce realistic renderings of people/scenes.

    To me, the more it looks like a picture of the subject, the better the artist!
    Art has to be literal? That's a pretty limited view, I think. Since music and art are often lumped together, ask yourself what "literal" music would be. Does it have to sound like something you've already heard? If not, why should visual art look like something you've already seen? Art can represent reality to whatever level of accuracy the artist desires, but it doesn't have to. A lot of artists who could paint, draw or otherwise represent reality with great accuracy wouldn't be caught dead doing so.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2014-07-02 10:53
    OK, so this is a photograph (should be a realistic "photographic" rendering)....that isn't realistic....does that make me a bad photographer or a bad artist or an artistic photographer??

    vincent_sunflower.jpg


    OK, this is pretty darn realistic....except your eye will never see this due to the shallow depth of field of the photographic lens. Should I have matched the depth of field (and focal length) of the human eye? Would that have made this a better photograph? Would it make me a better photographer? (Trust me, it wouldn't!).

    chester-cheetah.jpg


    (Just in case anyone is concerned, these shots are mine, so I owe no attribution to the photographer or any other copyright holders.)
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