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Kickstarter Auto-follow drone

W9GFOW9GFO Posts: 4,010
edited 2014-06-17 21:57 in General Discussion
https://www.kickstarter.com/airdog

It is a grandiose claim that they are the first in the world. I have seen someone do this at least a couple years ago. I think the automatic following is not such a hard thing to pull off. It is the landing that I think would be the trouble spot.

Suppose you have the drone following you while biking. It's batteries are finished and it needs to land. How does it decide where to land? Certainly the operator will have to stop and guide it to a safe landing.

I've been thinking of ways to have an ELEV-8 film me automatically while hang gliding. The actual following part is the least of my worries. It is the beginning, low battery abort and subsequent auto landing at a predetermined location that will take most of the work.

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  • GadgetmanGadgetman Posts: 2,436
    edited 2014-06-17 03:22
    If you slave another drone to follow the first, if should make for some pretty funny videos when batteries start running out...

    Other than that, I fear that those things will be a danger to everyone.

    Hang gliding is probably one of the less risky uses as most other flyers will keep a decent distance so is less likely to hit the drone, and there's not that many solid structures around for it to crash into.(Assuming you're not trying to fly under power lines or zig-zagging around power masts... Since you're still alive, I think we can discount that scenario)
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2014-06-17 09:32
    W9GFO wrote: »
    https://www.kickstarter.com/airdog

    It is a grandiose claim that they are the first in the world. I have seen someone do this at least a couple years ago. I think the automatic following is not such a hard thing to pull off. It is the landing that I think would be the trouble spot.

    I have seen too many claiming to be "First". A little research can prove them wrong, but it is a good concept and a good package.
    W9GFO wrote: »

    I've been thinking of ways to have an ELEV-8 film me automatically while hang gliding. The actual following part is the least of my worries. It is the beginning, low battery abort and subsequent auto landing at a predetermined location that will take most of the work.

    Have a docking station on the hang glider. IR to guide it in with magnetic hold downs.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2014-06-17 10:27
    Interesting, with some serious liability issues. There's a fine line between being faithfully followed by a harmless camera drone and being relentlessly pursued by a mindless device with four sharp rotating blades. Certainly a bit of Terminator in there, for better or worse. :)
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2014-06-17 10:36
    erco wrote: »
    Interesting, with some serious liability issues. There's a fine line between being faithfully followed by a harmless camera drone and being relentlessly pursued by a mindless device with four sharp rotating blades. Certainly a bit of Terminator in there, for better or worse. :)

    Closed Course. Professional drivers. Do not try this at home. :)
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2014-06-17 12:27
    What I want to know is what happens when another object comes in to the picture and then moves in a different direction than that of the original object being followed???? This is actually cool technology that is being used in CCTV cameras to Pan, Tilt and Zoom on moving objects.
  • W9GFOW9GFO Posts: 4,010
    edited 2014-06-17 12:28
    I am sure that it is using GPS to track location, rather than computer vision.
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2014-06-17 13:00
    I couldn't find any flight duration information. Did anyone else find this information?

    My guess is the Airdog would return to its takeoff point either at a predetermined time or distance. Since it doesn't require flight skills it must land itself (though this was never shown).

    Their video is pretty convincing but I'd really like to know its flight time.

    It looks like it has its own proprietary battery.

    In the top right photo below it looks like there's a long yellow battery pack.

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    Is the big yellow plastic body there to look cool? If so, it does its job but I'm not convinced it's the most weight efficient way of making a quadcopter frame.

    I think the did a good job making there project look cool.

    Edit: After reading some of the comments I see it does return to its takeoff point to land. It flies back at an altitude of 100ft so it wont run into any trees. I still haven't found flight time info.

    As cool as this is, I can't see myself getting one. I'd want to be able to tweak the code for my own needs.
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2014-06-17 13:44
    NWCCTV wrote: »
    What I want to know is what happens when another object comes in to the picture and then moves in a different direction than that of the original object being followed???? This is actually cool technology that is being used in CCTV cameras to Pan, Tilt and Zoom on moving objects.

    It tracks the transmitter worn on the wrist.
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2014-06-17 13:45
    Duane Degn wrote: »
    I couldn't find any flight duration information. Did anyone else find this information?

    From the Kickstarter Site:
    • 10-20 minutes flight time depending on flight speed


  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2014-06-17 15:53
    It tracks the transmitter worn on the wrist.
    I guess that is what happens when you turn the volume down on the video so as not to annoy others in e room. I did not catch that but now I get it!!
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2014-06-17 16:20
    A drone blimp would be better -- but not as "sexy." More able to follow you around unless you're on a racing bike, much less danger to people, and actually has a chance of having enough power for a 10 minute flight. Not much fun there if it can't even track you to a trip and back to 7-Eleven for a Big Gulp.

    A hybrid system combing LTA with a more robust propulsion system would be even better. But that would require a bit more cleverness in inventing something truly new.

    But as Gypsy Rose Lee once said, "You gotta have a gimmick." Kickstarter now seems to be a forum for gimmicky products that don't really have much function other than as toys for people with extra money to burn. As a platform for proving the underlying tracking technology, The Airdog isn't a bad concept. Like Duane says, though, who really would use this thing for its supposed intended purpose?
  • W9GFOW9GFO Posts: 4,010
    edited 2014-06-17 17:05
    Can anyone tell if it can be folded without removing the propellers first?
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2014-06-17 21:57
    A drone blimp would have a better chance of keeping up with me! :smile:
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