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cant get on internet proxy problem

whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
edited 2014-06-03 06:27 in General Discussion
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something went wrong today, my pc would not open any b reowser sites so i went to settings and in proxy changed things , well a thing to port 80 and put in google.com

Had and have no idea but i can getaround some sites and email but others it wont do it. how do i set up proxies ?
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  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2014-05-29 10:56
    Not really something that belongs on a Parallax Hardware/Software forum.

    You will probably find more information with a Google search.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-05-29 11:10
    I agree , though i did that a lot and no solution. Had a great day though, one of the better know members here came over and i really enjoyed it. He even put mint on my computer, got the same problem with mint but i didnt try it till after he had gone. sorry this was my last resort b efore going back to sleep :)
  • Mike GMike G Posts: 2,702
    edited 2014-05-29 12:33
    A proxy is an intermediate device that processes internet requests. Your PC sends the proxy a URL and the proxy processes the URL request and sends the results back to your PC.

    This is something you'd have to purchase, install, or register.

    If you have a proxy, you should know the address... if you don't know the proxy address then you probably don't have a proxy service. Call your ISP or network admin.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-05-29 13:39
    my proxy settings.jpg
    This is a pic of my proxy settings in firefox using win7 something is wrong somewhere. When i try to go to any site it just goes to the Google.com page ?????

    But if I start up ubuntu in the virtualbox everything works fine and also on my laptop its fine.
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  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2014-05-29 16:53
    Check the "No Proxy box". Unless you are on a corporate Network you are most likely not using one.
  • Mike GMike G Posts: 2,702
    edited 2014-05-29 16:54
    127.0.0.1 is a loop back - The PC you're using.
    When i try to go to any site it just goes to the Google.com page ?????
    Of course it does...you set up that way according to post #1.

    Call your ISP or don't use a proxy.
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2014-05-29 17:07
    I agree with Publison, it's not that people don't want to help you out it's that all of this stuff gets indexed in search engines and before you know it people are signing up for computer advice.

    Did you set the proxy to that? Usually spyware does that during a browser hijack.

    Run malwarebytes, hijack this, combo fix, try some antivirus full scans. Stop wasting time on Steam lol. You'll be all good in no time.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-05-29 19:57
    Mike G wrote: »
    127.0.0.1 is a loop back - The PC you're using.

    Of course it does...you set up that way according to post #1.

    Call your ISP or don't use a proxy.

    if u look at the pic i dont believe i am using a proxy and i rang my isp and they said they could not help which i found very strange because in the past they solved any problem i had. They toold me to go to a computer service shop. EXETEL they used to be great !


    EDIT: I SEE THE NO PROXY SORRY.... but on the ubuntu OS firefox has what the pic has ticked and it works fine.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-05-29 20:28
    Publison wrote: »
    Not really something that belongs on a Parallax Hardware/Software forum.

    You will probably find more information with a Google search.

    ok mod yay... no proxy rules :)
  • Mike GMike G Posts: 2,702
    edited 2014-05-30 03:34
    EDIT: I SEE THE NO PROXY SORRY.... but on the ubuntu OS firefox has what the pic has ticked and it works fine.
    Most likely a proxy service is running on port 8118 in Ubuntu while Windows does not have a proxy running locally.

    Obviously, you know more about this stuff than NWCCTV and myself. Good luck.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-05-30 07:03
    You are in a typical new to Linux learning curve. Browsers are likely the most challenging aspect of Linux. You need to use the Motzilla websites, not Linux for good support.

    What is a Proxy? What is it used for? Well here are a few links to get you started... http://linux.about.com/cs/linux101/g/proxy.htm
    http://www.ehow.com/facts_5801984_proxy-connection_.html

    Mostly this is a question of how you choose to firewall your computer to the outside world. I myself don't use a proxy and have minimal firewall setting. If you are using a Linux router, that too can operate as a proxy and provide your firewall. So the issue of reaching the outside world is different if you insert a router between you and the outside.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-05-30 10:23
    Mike G wrote: »
    Most likely a proxy service is running on port 8118 in Ubuntu while Windows does not have a proxy running locally.

    Obviously, you know more about this stuff than NWCCTV and myself. Good luck.

    i know nothing compared to you, until i read loopy s link :)
  • Mike GMike G Posts: 2,702
    edited 2014-05-30 10:44
    You are in a typical new to Linux learning curve. Browsers are likely the most challenging aspect of Linux. You need to use the Motzilla websites, not Linux for good support.
    As I understand, Windows has the issue not Linux. Linux is using a loop back IP on port 8118 probably running a proxy service (Privoxy). On the Windows system the OP set the proxy to Google - not sure why.
    So the issue of reaching the outside world is different if you insert a router between you and the outside.
    That's what DHCP is for...
    i know nothing compared to you, until i read loopy s link
    Glad you got it sorted out
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-05-31 00:48
    Part of the problem is that Windows and Apple provide a 'nanny state' for the user that avoids all the details and options of installation; while Linux lets the user see the full array of choices.

    Linux does provide a document for free, The Linux System Administrator's Guide. That will get you started, but in all honesty, it doesn't cover the issued of internet security.

    I go with the 'no proxy' route being the simplest. Reverting to Ubuntu defaults may work just as well if the proxy services are actually on a port 8118 that is not regularly used or work for your browsing. (There are thousands of Ports available and finding out what they all do and why you should open or close them is a big research project in itself.)

    You might find help in the Securing Debian Manual. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch2.en.html

    But I have to admit I have dumped a rather large reading load on you with just these two links
    .
    My favorite book for Linux is by No Starch Press... How Linux Works. And that is a lot more pleasant to get started with.

    You really need to accept that your Linux security is reasonably safe with the defaults, and then take the time to learn about the whole system before you get deep into modifications. A lot of the services that Linux can provide are very useful to big companies that need to keep a large LAN protected behind a robust firewall. But the same options are demanding of a full-time System Security Administrator. Keep it simple for now. Just being off of Windows protects you from a lot of security threats.

    http://www.cin.ufpe.br/~pjs/How_Linux_Works_(2004)[BrianWard].pdf

    Chapter 5 of How Linux Works covers your network installation.

    But be aware that this is a topic that has been under constant revision with a lot of improvements and upgrades over the years. What was in use 5 years ago, may be entirely different now. You are going to have to start learning how to use Network Tools, including Port Scans and Network Configuration. If you are not interested, it will be a nasty grind to figure out all the jargon and history.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-05-31 01:00
    everytime i use win7 the proxy has gone back to where it does not work and i have to set it to NO Proxy each time ??????????????????
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-05-31 01:21
    This seems to be a Win7 problem, NOT a Linux problem.

    You may have to become Administrator to permanently change the Win7 Proxy to 'no proxy'.

    If you CANNOT set 'no proxy', you may have had a hostile hack and need to completely reinstall Windows7. After all, you have been fishing for virus hits.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0nl5eEbNk8
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-05-31 05:01
    i deleted kaspersky, and now there are no proxy issues
  • RDL2004RDL2004 Posts: 2,554
    edited 2014-05-31 07:30
    Occasional posts concerning PC related issues have never been a problem here. However, you seem to be having a lot more than minor problems and this is not really a PC focused forum.

    Loopy has already suggested where to get help with Linux. If you continue to have problems with Windows 7, I recommend you try the Windows 7 Help Forums.


    http://www.sevenforums.com/
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-05-31 08:20
    I think everything is solved so i wont be bothering this forum again as far as it seems now.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-05-31 09:51
    whiteoxe wrote: »
    i deleted kaspersky, and now there are no proxy issues

    I don't know whether to laugh or cry. The AV software all too often takes over Windows in ways that nobody can anticipate. And if MS is hostile to a particular product, MS just might make that particular product seem to be buggy or worse.

    I trying to use Norton AV and System Mechanic on my Windows XP and found myself sandwitched between a huge turf battle for which one 'owned' my system. That was when I finally the beginning of the end... to never spend another dollar on a MS OS or products that require it. MS Vista was the final blow.

    In sum, I just got weary of throwing good money after bad and thinking the MS OS was going to one day become a better user experience. Linux is rather pleasant and docile in comparison. But I see you are still going back and forth between the two. I am long past that. I rarely boot up my Windows7.. it annoys me and raises my blood pressure.
  • whiteoxewhiteoxe Posts: 794
    edited 2014-06-02 05:43
    I have used windows for years and had very few problems. Its just lately that ive been getting virus attacks and malware. partly my fault for going to torrent sites and downloading programs from sites that infect your machine along with the download.

    So i use win for a couple of things, im using it to program arduimo. basic stamp and prop boards. Ill eventually be able to do all this while in mint. I hav3e installed WINE but as yet dont know how to use it.
  • $WMc%$WMc% Posts: 1,884
    edited 2014-06-02 17:24
    Now that you have everything working again. Take screen shots of your configuration and store them in a folder so the next time something goes wrong, You can find it easily.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-06-02 23:45
    Just a bit of added info.

    A 'proxy server' is not the only proxy feature in computer OSes. Routers use a feature called NAT to create a kind of proxy that firewalls the computer from the outside world.

    In other words, when you search and study about 'proxy', you get a few separate topics. NAT is a good thing, but 'proxy servers' may actually be installed on your computer to allow a hacker to hide their identity by having your computer relay their SPAM.
  • Mike GMike G Posts: 2,702
    edited 2014-06-03 04:54
    A 'proxy server' is not the only proxy feature in computer OSes. Routers use a feature called NAT to create a kind of proxy that firewalls the computer from the outside world.
    I always thought NAT was a one way hard coded translation/mapping and a proxy is service that acts on behave of the requesting client.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-06-03 05:02
    Well, some of the discussion of NAT refers to it as 'a kind of proxy'. This is a typical linguistic dilemma. Experts may use precise definitions that don't collide in terminology, but using any search engine brings up discussion that is not so precise. The main thing is that 'proxy' is a concept and the accepted use of the term 'proxy server' is a specifc instance that doesn't apply to NAT.
  • GadgetmanGadgetman Posts: 2,436
    edited 2014-06-03 06:27
    Actually, all NATing Firewalls are Proxy servers of some sort.
    It's just that they're usually 'transparent' to the user on the 'inside'.
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