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Ok so what do you build with

MarkCrCoMarkCrCo Posts: 89
edited 2014-05-10 07:43 in General Discussion
Just wondering what other people use to build stuff out of. I have been trying an erector set with very limited success. I found some aluminum channel at Servo city that looks pretty interesting but I haven't tried it yet. Anyone have any experience with that stuff or other suggestions.

http://www.servocity.com/html/channel___brackets.html

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  • MarkCrCoMarkCrCo Posts: 89
    edited 2014-05-02 18:26
    I've also tried 2 liter bottles and some duct tape but my servos aren't fast enough without gearing to create my vacuum cleaner for my robot.

    http://youtu.be/sfZ7mGclzhs
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2014-05-02 19:08
    Walk up and down the aisles of stores like Lowe's and Home Depot, or even a craft store. Hit all the aisles if you can even the ones that you wouldn't think would have much use. You're likely to find all kinds of cool stuff, you can always pick it out and then do some online price comparisons before buying.

    Depending on the size of the project I like to start with ePVC, sheet metal, aluminum square tube and L channel. It's easy to work with using basic tools, especially the ePVC.

    The servo city stuff looks really nice, I've used stuff similar but not the same stuff. Predrilled holes are usually in the wrong places when you need to mount something with mounting holes and you need to drill anyway. Plus it can really expensive.
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2014-05-02 19:40
    What to build with?

    Plywood and extruded angled aluminum. (My entry to the Retro Bot thread in post #121.)

    I learned about expanded PVC from Gordon McComb. Here's a prototype using it.

    The above mentioned prototype also uses foam board which I also used in my cheap bot.

    I used carbon fiber and ePVC to build a hexacopter which can be seen my Polymorph thread. I used Polymorph to make the landing gear on my hexacopter. I've also used Polymorph to joint aluminum "L" extrusion together.

    I had made a video showing how I joined the aluminum together but the camera eat it. The Polymorph video was supposed to a part 2 but since part 1 didn't get saved properly, you'll have to see the aluminum extrusion held together with Polymorph by looking at 6:44 in the video. The blue stuff on the floor I'm using hold my props is more ePVC.

    Another thing every roboticist should have is a roll or two of Gorilla Tape. It's really good stuff for holding things together.

    Gordon't McComb's Robot Builder's Bonanza 4ed is a great resource for learning about what stuff to use with a robot. I wish I had had RBB4 when I was starting out with robotics.
  • FranklinFranklin Posts: 4,747
    edited 2014-05-02 20:22
    For robots and the like Sparkfun has this https://www.sparkfun.com/categories/263
    and servo city has this https://www.servocity.com/html/servoblocks.html
  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2014-05-02 20:59
    I've used polycarbonate cutting board. Wood may be another option ;-)

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  • kwinnkwinn Posts: 8,697
    edited 2014-05-02 21:18
    Same here, but I am a bit envious. I could only find white at the dollar store.
    jazzed wrote: »
    I've used polycarbonate cutting board. Wood may be another option ;-)

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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2014-05-02 22:00
    Fluorescent acrylic for bling, acetal copolymer for toughness, plywood for basic structure, matboard for simple things that do not require strength, fiberglass sheet for stiffness, black construction paper for optical apertures, Kapton film for solderpaste screens. That about sums it up.

    -Phil
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2014-05-02 23:02
    Ever since I read NASA's electronics best practice guide/handbook, I've only used clear heat shrink tubing. IMO,clear HST is much nicer than the opaque alternative. It's amazingly covenient to be able to inspect the connection after the HST has been added.

    Makes me wonder what other smart things can come out of NASA.

    BTW I learned about NASA handbook on the forum. I'm sure I have a link to it in my index (see signsture).

    Sorry, I realize HST is a bit OT.
  • WBA ConsultingWBA Consulting Posts: 2,934
    edited 2014-05-03 00:01
    Plastics of all sorts, Altoids tins, cases from Polycase, laser cut acrylic and delrin sheets, metal plumber's tape, MDF of various thickness (1/4" on the laser is excellent), wood dowels, Polymorph, and all sorts of epoxies and other glues.
    xanadu wrote: »
    Walk up and down the aisles of stores like Lowe's and Home Depot, or even a craft store. Hit all the aisles if you can even the ones that you wouldn't think would have much use. You're likely to find all kinds of cool stuff, you can always pick it out and then do some online price comparisons before buying.

    +1 ! I can't tell you how many times I have done exactly that when I visit any store for the first time.

    Another pair of secret treasure places are thrift stores and antique stores. I have a fantastic metal tin that I found for 25 cents at an antique store that is perfect for a project I have in mind for a "vintage minded" person. It is round and the top is lithographed with the company/product logo for Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing's "Scotch" Cellulose Tape; the original "Scotch tape" by 3M. (I myself am a big fan of 3M history; if you are, download 3M's History of Innovation PDF 6.8MB )
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  • RobotWorkshopRobotWorkshop Posts: 2,307
    edited 2014-05-03 04:39
    MarkCrCo wrote: »
    I've also tried 2 liter bottles and some duct tape but my servos aren't fast enough without gearing to create my vacuum cleaner for my robot.

    A while back I wrote an article on how to build a small robot would of a CD/DVD Spindle case. You can see the thread here:

    http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php/138417-SpindleBots-Construction-artilce-in-April-2012-SERVO-magazine?highlight=spindlebot

    It uses the large feed rollers from an old HP inkjet printer for the wheels. Just an example of what you can re-purpose to build a robot. I also have another construction article on a Minibot robot made from a small trash can.

    http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php/146950-NEW-Propeller-Quickstart-powered-robot-MiniBot-appearing-in-May-2013-SERVO?highlight=minibot

    I plan on adding more details and pictures of each one on my website:

    http://www.robotworkshop.com/robotweb/

    Robert
  • Martin_HMartin_H Posts: 4,051
    edited 2014-05-03 06:56
    Hobby plywood, aluminum extrusion, epvc, and aluminum sheet metal. My main tools are my Dremel, drill press, scroll saw, and table saw. I have a prototype desktop CNC that I built. I plan to rebuild it to be more rigid and use a laminate trimmer instead of my Dremel. The plans I have will be more accurate and can cut aluminum.

    I've been really tempted to learn about sand casting aluminum. It looks reasonably safe if you wear a leather apron, gloves, face shield, and use tongs. Really long and sturdy tongs. It seems like the ideal way to fabricate custom metal parts. But then I would need a metal lathe.
  • PJAllenPJAllen Banned Posts: 5,065
    edited 2014-05-03 07:21
    I tend toward re-use.
    Why buy when you can make use of what's around you?
    http://hackaday.com/?s=Cypherbot
  • RDL2004RDL2004 Posts: 2,554
    edited 2014-05-03 07:48
    Home Depot is awesome. A couple of months ago I needed a little bit of 20 gauge solid copper wire. Radio Shack had a spool for about $10, I could get some from Mouser in my next order for cheaper but I kind of wanted it sooner. I thought I'd check at Home Depot. Sure enough, they had a section in the wire department with a sort of vertical conveyor thing which I had never noticed before that went all the way nearly to the ceiling and was loaded with spools of wire. The cheerful guy working there rotated it it around and found me some 20 gauge solid wire that I could buy by the foot. I got about 20 times more than I needed for only 67 cents. I almost felt guilty.
  • kwinnkwinn Posts: 8,697
    edited 2014-05-03 11:35
    A brushed DC motor is a better choice for this. The higher RPM they produce is more suitable for a vacuum cleaner.
    MarkCrCo wrote: »
    I've also tried 2 liter bottles and some duct tape but my servos aren't fast enough without gearing to create my vacuum cleaner for my robot.
  • GeorgeCollinsGeorgeCollins Posts: 132
    edited 2014-05-03 16:42
    I have used some of the servocity brackets (and many servo city parts) on Decapitron, with great success.
    They are a good source for motors and connections.

    Another good place for servo/ motor connectors in lynxmotion. http://www.lynxmotion.com/ You can make almost any type of legged robot from their aluminum parts.

    I also get aluminum and plastic cut from Big Blue Saw. https://www.bigbluesaw.com/ They are great.

    I have learned to cut my own plastic parts (usually derlin from eplastics) at the Tech Shop.

    I have built robots from a variety of tins, most importantly, the Peanut Tin of Terror!
  • ctwardellctwardell Posts: 1,716
    edited 2014-05-03 17:06
    jazzed wrote: »
    I've used polycarbonate cutting board. Wood may be another option ;-)

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    I've not tried polycarbonate cutting board, but I've used plenty of HDPE ones.

    The HDPE machines just like wood and doesn't seem to be too hard on the tools.

    I've even run it through the planer to reduce the thickness, makes really nice chips...

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    That board with the Rabbit 2000 and three PIC16F877's is what led me to the Propeller.

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  • lanternfishlanternfish Posts: 366
    edited 2014-05-04 18:12
    MarkCrCo wrote: »
    Just wondering what other people use to build stuff out of. I have been trying an erector set with very limited success. I found some aluminum channel at Servo city that looks pretty interesting but I haven't tried it yet. Anyone have any experience with that stuff or other suggestions.

    http://www.servocity.com/html/channel___brackets.html

    We had a family day yesterday (daughters, sons and their partners and the grand kids, ) where I was told off by my daughter for inspecting the (slightly) broken toys too closely. Her exact words were "and what are you thinking of making out of that?"
  • MarkCrCoMarkCrCo Posts: 89
    edited 2014-05-08 13:59
    Here is my latest creation. I used the erector set and it actualy worked !!!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=t00JWWQIWrc
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2014-05-08 14:16
    MarkCrCo wrote: »
    Here is my latest creation. I used the erector set and it actualy worked !!!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=t00JWWQIWrc

    Very cool!

    Well done.

    It's really fun to see an idea come to life. Thanks for posting it.
  • Martin_HMartin_H Posts: 4,051
    edited 2014-05-08 17:48
    MarkCrCo wrote: »
    Here is my latest creation. I used the erector set and it actualy worked !!!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=t00JWWQIWrc

    That's great.
  • ellipserellipser Posts: 43
    edited 2014-05-10 07:43
    Martin_H wrote: »

    I've been really tempted to learn about sand casting aluminum. It looks reasonably safe if you wear a leather apron, gloves, face shield, and use tongs. Really long and sturdy tongs. It seems like the ideal way to fabricate custom metal parts. But then I would need a metal lathe.

    I've done a bit of sand casting myself. It's pretty easy actually, and very fun. I was just starting off the Dave Gingery book series on how to do it. You'd be absolutely amazed at the amount of heat that can be released from just charcoal and a shop-vac running in reverse. The flame was like a jet engine taking off. I threw a piece of charcoal into the hole and it floated in space before dropping.

    I've found that using a grab hook style, like they use in steel mills is the best way to do it. Just don't expect great results right away. Casting is a craft, and it takes practice to get the right pour rate.

    You don't need a metal lathe to do it, and actually the Gingery series shows you how to build a lathe from scratch, starting out with hand tools and a charcoal furnace.

    Here's someone doing it (not me)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-QRZfd3Dhg
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