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Mercedes' "Hybrid" F1 Engine

ercoerco Posts: 20,256
edited 2014-04-11 10:28 in General Discussion
Don't close the patent office just yet, there's plenty of nifty mechanical innovating left to do. For instance, the Mercedes Formula One team has split their turbo in half joined by a shaft. Sort of like the McDLT- it keeps the hot side hot, and the cool side cool :) . Check out the video. What the video does not mention is the addition of a generator in the middle of the two halves that is powered off that same shaft and charges a battery, which gives additional boost of power on demand. F1 engines are no longer referred to as engines, but “power units,” as they are now effectively hybrids. Cool stuff.

http://jalopnik.com/how-mercedes-ingenious-f1s-split-turbo-works-1560969552

Comments

  • User NameUser Name Posts: 1,451
    edited 2014-04-09 10:46
    McDLT - nice analogy. Interesting article...thanks for posting it.

    Say, isn't it about lunch time?
  • icepuckicepuck Posts: 466
    edited 2014-04-09 10:49
    Years ago the trucking industry experimented with something similar. It was another turbine in the exhaust just after the turbo but it was geared into the pto gear train
    of the engine itself.
    -dan
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2014-04-09 10:53
    While I was still living in Atlanta, I got the visit the Panoz factory and see "Sparkey"

    http://green.autoblog.com/2009/02/16/1998-panoz-q9-a-hybrid-race-car-ahead-of-its-time/

    http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/car-pics/277887-vintage-hybrid-race-car-panoz-q9-sparky.html

    Got to meet "Doc" Panoz who started the American Le Mans series and owns Road Atlanta; and his son who runs Panoz automotive

    M    ost F1 cars are going the same route. There seems to be a reduction in noise also. Have to find the link to that.
  • JonnyMacJonnyMac Posts: 9,107
    edited 2014-04-09 11:38
    Have you heard the sound of this year's F1 engines? The don't sound like they should make the cars go as fast as they do.
  • pmrobertpmrobert Posts: 675
    edited 2014-04-09 16:46
    The smaller displacement, turbo and lower rev limit really take the "angry" sound out of them for sure...
  • bill190bill190 Posts: 769
    edited 2014-04-11 10:11
    Funny how some things are still done today because they have always been done that way. No one takes a fresh look at the design.

    Like homes have one electrical outlet every 6 feet. Always been done that way and is still done that way. But in the living room or kitchen, there are locations which need 3 or 4 outlets (total of 6 or 8 plug-ins). Yet they still put just one outlet there!
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2014-04-11 10:28
    bill190 wrote: »
    Like homes have one electrical outlet every 6 feet. Always been done that way and is still done that way. But in the living room or kitchen, there are locations which need 3 or 4 outlets (total of 6 or 8 plug-ins). Yet they still put just one outlet there!

    When we built our house (now 10 years ago), I put double outlets (4 plugs) in places where I thought media/computer equipment might go. There are also boxes for ethernet/coax/?? termination in every room with "smurf" tubes running down to the basement, each has a nylon pull cord to aid in pulling cable. (This was before home WiFi was the way to go). Each end of the house has a 2.5 inch PVC pipe between floors for running major cables up to the second floor. There are a couple spare CAT6 cables brought up to my 2nd floor office (at least I anticipated GigE!).

    Several other non-electronic features we put in that my builder took away for other houses he was doing.

    Just because it is "code", doesn't mean it is well thought out!

    Just because that's the way it's been done before you don't have to keep doing it that way!

    That's how we got the Propeller from Chip! That's why most of us are here!
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