The live boot thing is great until you decide to commit, then you have to live with your decision. VirtualBox in windows works wonderfully and allows you to change until you got the solution you like, and you can still run all those windows apps that you still like. VirtualBox is slightly more complicated, but it's just a matter of install, create a new VM, install linux from DVD ... repeat until satisfied.
The live boot thing is great until you decide to commit, then you have to live with your decision. VirtualBox in windows works wonderfully and allows you to change until you got the solution you like, and you can still run all those windows apps that you still like. VirtualBox is slightly more complicated, but it's just a matter of install, create a new VM, install linux from DVD ... repeat until satisfied.
Once you create an extended partition on your drive you can have multiple partitions there in which to install more than one distro. In live boot in a real environment the Linux installs in next to no time so I have no feeling of commitment as it is so easy and quick to install and remove distros. I do find that newer laptops have hogged all the primary partitions of the drive as if it is some evil MS scheme but I just backup and delete one of the "recovery" partitions and then resize the NTFS partition so that I have room for my extended partition.
Once you create an extended partition on your drive you can have multiple partitions there in which to install more than one distro. In live boot in a real environment the Linux installs in next to no time so I have no feeling of commitment as it is so easy and quick to install and remove distros. I do find that newer laptops have hogged all the primary partitions of the drive as if it is some evil MS scheme but I just backup and delete one of the "recovery" partitions and then resize the NTFS partition so that I have room for my extended partition.
Unless I'm mistaken, it seems the current evil M$ scheme (since Windows7) doesn't allow booting by partition.
Unless I'm mistaken, it seems the current evil M$ scheme (since Windows7) doesn't allow booting by partition.
I don't think it is a Windows issue (surprising!) but a UEFI secure boot issue, you need to modify the settings in the bios. I have WIN7 units here that I dual boot and although I haven't installed on a WIN8 machine I have had to modify UEFI just to live boot them.
If your machine vendor allows and supplies legacy mode BIOS booting, using it makes Linux life a bit easier, though you won't be able to boot the Win 8 shipped with the machine, but you would be able to boot a Windows 8 bought retail, through "compatibility mode." The difference boils down to DRM, and a secure boot machine can be different from a legacy mode machine in terms of what licenses it will process and as a result, what media, etc... can be used.
I did the dual booting thing years ago. To me is was a very inconvenient pain in the neck. Messing with partitions, fighting with Windows boot loader and Linux boot loader. Then when you are in one OS you find you need something from the other.
The Linux virtual machine with Virtual Box or VMWare is much nicer.
Ultimately a dedicated machine is best. That's where the Raspberry Pi comes in, allowing getting started on the cheap. Although it is significantly slower than a PC.
I did the dual booting thing years ago. To me is was a very inconvenient pain in the neck. Messing with partitions, fighting with Windows boot loader and Linux boot loader. Then when you are in one OS you find you need something from the other.
The Linux virtual machine with Virtual Box or VMWare is much nicer.
Ultimately a dedicated machine is best. That's where the Raspberry Pi comes in, allowing getting started on the cheap. Although it is significantly slower than a PC.
I do all of my work in Linux which is why I boot into that and then run WINXP in VirtualBox if I need to, mostly my old Protel99SE. I haven't had to fight the boot loader as I very rarely boot back into Windows itself. Personally I would like the choice when I buy a laptop of choosing which O/S I want on it, or just have it blank, even better. But once again the evil M$ empire holds sway over the PC world and manufacturers dare not slight the Empire, in case the death star descends upon them.
Yes, I'd much prefer to have a stable Linux foundation and run a Windows in a VM in that. This has the great advantage that you can snapshot your working Windows installation and when it commits suicide, as they always seem to do, you can simply clone your snap shot and continue.
For a Linux beginner I suspect Linux on Windows is a better bet. Not really sure how that works out.
Why oh why is it that after all these years of anti-trust suites we can't get a frikken MS free Laptop?
Of course that is why there is the drive to alternatives like WebOS, Chrome Books and so on.
Still havent installed VirtualBox getting a very late start today. Still pensive with dual boot thing. When I bought this HP laptop last year I looked for alternative OS. All they offered was win 7 and win 8. I went with 7 the lesser of two evils IMHO. I do have two partitions but second is small and for recovery.
Usually the manufacturer will include some kind of utility on the computer for burning a reinstall disk (or disks). This is for when the HDD dies so that you can reinstall on a new drive. Once you have made these it's a little less worrisome to mess around and experiment with your existing installation.
Could you pleas post such a search and links to examples of pages that are "unsafe" or different on IE.
Of course many things will be different on IE given that unless it is a very new version it does not support a lot of nice HTM5 features.
Web pages were never intended to be rendered exactly the same on all browsers anyway.
If a site checks your browser type and serves up different stuff that is hardly the browsers fault.
And what has any of this got to do with the problem in hand?
It has been a long time since I used Chrome and did not keep any records of which sites I used to test different browsers.
I finally noticed that using Chrome to visit sites caused a lot of disk activity when I was only viewing sites and not downloading anything.
I also get much better results using filters in a search with MS IE in Private Mode and the only disk activity is when I am downloading.
As you said sites respond and do things differently depending on the browser you use. It seemed a logical first easy step to see if that had a bearing on the jumbled data shown in the original post.
Bingo!! Took care of the prob. Thanks a million. I didn't know about the Ctrl-ScrollWheel thing. I have had similar overprint problems on other websites - I'll bet this is a fix for that also.
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Once you create an extended partition on your drive you can have multiple partitions there in which to install more than one distro. In live boot in a real environment the Linux installs in next to no time so I have no feeling of commitment as it is so easy and quick to install and remove distros. I do find that newer laptops have hogged all the primary partitions of the drive as if it is some evil MS scheme but I just backup and delete one of the "recovery" partitions and then resize the NTFS partition so that I have room for my extended partition.
Unless I'm mistaken, it seems the current evil M$ scheme (since Windows7) doesn't allow booting by partition.
I don't think it is a Windows issue (surprising!) but a UEFI secure boot issue, you need to modify the settings in the bios. I have WIN7 units here that I dual boot and although I haven't installed on a WIN8 machine I have had to modify UEFI just to live boot them.
If your machine vendor allows and supplies legacy mode BIOS booting, using it makes Linux life a bit easier, though you won't be able to boot the Win 8 shipped with the machine, but you would be able to boot a Windows 8 bought retail, through "compatibility mode." The difference boils down to DRM, and a secure boot machine can be different from a legacy mode machine in terms of what licenses it will process and as a result, what media, etc... can be used.
The Linux virtual machine with Virtual Box or VMWare is much nicer.
Ultimately a dedicated machine is best. That's where the Raspberry Pi comes in, allowing getting started on the cheap. Although it is significantly slower than a PC.
I do all of my work in Linux which is why I boot into that and then run WINXP in VirtualBox if I need to, mostly my old Protel99SE. I haven't had to fight the boot loader as I very rarely boot back into Windows itself. Personally I would like the choice when I buy a laptop of choosing which O/S I want on it, or just have it blank, even better. But once again the evil M$ empire holds sway over the PC world and manufacturers dare not slight the Empire, in case the death star descends upon them.
Yes, I'd much prefer to have a stable Linux foundation and run a Windows in a VM in that. This has the great advantage that you can snapshot your working Windows installation and when it commits suicide, as they always seem to do, you can simply clone your snap shot and continue.
For a Linux beginner I suspect Linux on Windows is a better bet. Not really sure how that works out.
Why oh why is it that after all these years of anti-trust suites we can't get a frikken MS free Laptop?
Of course that is why there is the drive to alternatives like WebOS, Chrome Books and so on.
It has been a long time since I used Chrome and did not keep any records of which sites I used to test different browsers.
I finally noticed that using Chrome to visit sites caused a lot of disk activity when I was only viewing sites and not downloading anything.
I also get much better results using filters in a search with MS IE in Private Mode and the only disk activity is when I am downloading.
As you said sites respond and do things differently depending on the browser you use. It seemed a logical first easy step to see if that had a bearing on the jumbled data shown in the original post.
Tim
We should be on the look out for such things all the time. That's why I ask.
I find it hard to believe I get different search results on google.com depending what browser I use. Hence my asking for an example.