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Lovely - your next desktop PC

LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
edited 2014-01-23 10:52 in General Discussion
http://cubieboard.org/2013/10/30/cubieboard3-cubietruck-is-all-ready/

Just add a wall wart and a HDMI to VGA converter and you can shift over your old stuff to this.... far beyond the Raspberry Pi.

Of course, there is no Windows 8 in this version of the future. But the Propeller will work fine with LInux.

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  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-01-23 03:39
    Loopy,

    That is a sweet looking board. Not exactly a Raspi replacement but it looks like we are rapidly heading towards the possibility of living not only Windows free but Intel free. Small low power what's not to like?

    This is another item for my wish list but I'd be much happier if I could get a stock Debian running on it. I wish the world would stop messing with this Ubuntu for everything. Ubuntu only takes Debian and breaks it in interesting ways.

    Last I heard there is no Windows 8 in any ones vision of the future, not even Windows users.


    Edit: Ah, at the bottom of that page it does say Debian is working on the Cubie Truck.
  • ZetsuZetsu Posts: 186
    edited 2014-01-23 06:00
    mi next desktop ( if I decide not to build my own, next upgrade period ).

    http://www.razerzone.com/christine


    b
    tw ;c I love Ubuntu and Mint.

    @ home I have 4 Ubuntu 12.04 lts servers running on an esxi box with itarget scsi, couldn't be happier.
    I use mint for my desktop as per Ubuntu's new windows manager 'unity' sucks.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-01-23 06:35
    But why Ubuntu?

    Ubuntu is a dressed up Debian. With, as I said, things broken in interesting ways.

    Debian 7 with a KDE plasma desktop is just fine.
  • ZetsuZetsu Posts: 186
    edited 2014-01-23 07:09
    deb still come with 2k+ installation dvds ? ( okay maybe that was an exaggeration... 1,980 dvds, thats more like it.. )

    My honest problem with deb, is the amount of dvds it expects me to download, and its not ready to run out of the box ( no x windows manager etc.. etc.. ).


    Ubuntu Linux, has probably the easiest setup and config out of any of the distros I have used.
    I can get a full server up in about 2 to 3 hours, with LDAP, Bind, Samba, dhcp, etc.. etc...

    Others I tried:
    Fedoracore - SELinux enabled kernel ( no thanks.... getting security errors about my blank screen saver not having the correct SELinux ACL's to authenticate with my password manager..... )

    Suse/RHL - I use it at work ( I hate it ), why is nothing in the freeking path ;c having to path everything is just silly, IE sudo /sbin/route -n
    Yast tries to do way to much Smile for you.
    SLES is such a pain imo to configure as well as what it actually supports. One-click installs... Lol suuuree.....
    I also can't stand how they decided to change the default install locations of 1/2 the software that comes with it too...

    I also tried like knoppix and a few other flavors that just were incomplete or had other various issues that prevented me from wanting to use them..
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-01-23 07:27
    What installation DVD's? I have never seen any.

    I start with a very small network install image blown onto a CD like these: http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst

    Or there are bigger basic installation CD images, for example: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/amd64/iso-cd/
    You only need disk 1. Install a minimal system and do the rest from the net with apt-get.

    Or there is the single CD live Debian that can be used to install to your PC as well.

    Or install from a little something on a USB stick if you PC can boot from one.
  • DaveJensonDaveJenson Posts: 375
    edited 2014-01-23 07:30
    http://cubieboard.org/2013/10/30/cubieboard3-cubietruck-is-all-ready/

    Just add a wall wart and a HDMI to VGA converter and you can shift over your old stuff to this.... far beyond the Raspberry Pi.

    Of course, there is no Windows 8 in this version of the future. But the Propeller will work fine with LInux.


    And I do like that it is "environment fridendly"...
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-01-23 07:56
    zetsu,

    What have you been up to?

    Debian has had X out of the box ever since I can remember.

    As I said, all my Debian installs start from a single CD. Usually the netinst I linked to. It's only a couple of hundred megs.

    Admittedly that has no X. And quite rightly so. All our server boxes are X free. There is no point in having X usually as they are administered remotely most of the time. It's best not to use GUI tools as recreating an installation is much easier if you have all the config files to hand.

    If you feel the need for X on a desktop then a minimal install from the fist CD has it or use the live CD. I don't do that because I like the KDE desk top. So having got the netinst running up to a command line prompt all I need is:
    $ apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop
    

    Nothing else gets installed unless I ask apt for it. Which is as it should be.

    Getting a server up with the services you describe should be about as simple. Admittedly you may have to do some config editing and command line tweaking but that is in the nature of running servers. Especially if they are normally remotely administered.

    Last time my hard drive blew up and I had to reinstall everything I made a short log of my basic Debian desktop installation steps here:
    http://a.linuxsecured.net/debian-installation-log
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-01-23 08:56
    I gave up on both Ubuntu and Mint and finally migrated to Debian which is really the basis for one half the Linux world (Red Hat/Fedora being the other side of the divide).

    Ubuntu got weird in above 12.04 --- no longer could I use Brad's Spin tool
    Mint was weird from the start --- Refusing Google search until Google gives them $$$, and no real Asian language support.

    With Debian, the issues are pretty generic.. has everything, but you may have to dig a bit to get it. I want a good system, not a pretty desktop. Though I do admit I grew weary of Ubuntu's orange and brown color preferences.
  • ZetsuZetsu Posts: 186
    edited 2014-01-23 10:52
    Heater. wrote: »
    zetsu,

    What have you been up to?

    Debian has had X out of the box ever since I can remember.

    As I said, all my Debian installs start from a single CD. Usually the netinst I linked to. It's only a couple of hundred megs.

    Admittedly that has no X. And quite rightly so. All our server boxes are X free. There is no point in having X usually as they are administered remotely most of the time. It's best not to use GUI tools as recreating an installation is much easier if you have all the config files to hand.

    If you feel the need for X on a desktop then a minimal install from the fist CD has it or use the live CD. I don't do that because I like the KDE desk top. So having got the netinst running up to a command line prompt all I need is:
    $ apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop
    

    Nothing else gets installed unless I ask apt for it. Which is as it should be.

    Getting a server up with the services you describe should be about as simple. Admittedly you may have to do some config editing and command line tweaking but that is in the nature of running servers. Especially if they are normally remotely administered.

    Last time my hard drive blew up and I had to reinstall everything I made a short log of my basic Debian desktop installation steps here:
    http://a.linuxsecured.net/debian-installation-log

    I went to mess with debian a few months back and if iirc
    I downloaded http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/amd64/iso-cd/
    a
    nd ended up without x-windows on base install, with default options selected etc.. etc.. .
    was annoyed about it, uninstalled and went on. Actually yeah I recall, because it was when Ubuntu 13 came out with Unity ( or gnome 3, witch sucks) and broke my workstation setup ( unity doesn't play nice with amd's eyefinity)


    All my servers are CLI only. This is all in regards to my workstation, witch I have to have a GUI on.
    I should also mention when I say X it can be kinda misleading, because I/people I work with throw that around for any of the various Linux windows managers.

    As far as setup time, Ubuntu in comparison to the other distros I have messed with has better versions of Ldap and samba. Iast time i checked on SUSE they were about 2 releases behind, which was causing me issues, ldiff format vs the old slapd.conf file. Granted that's probably not an issue with Debian, but just as an example, of ease of setup. I also prefer the ubuntu service start up manager (upstart) as well as Ubuntu's restricted Root account, and various other things.
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