AMD Athlon 4000+ with some old NVIDIA graphics on the mother board was a very common combination for me on Etch. Maybe I should revisit the situation on Wheezy.
I'm going to have to figure something out to replace Windows XP on a ton of Fujitsu B Series laptops. I've got a one here now and I'm downloading Wheezy.
Don't expect miracles from that on board graphics on the AMD 4000+ mother boards. I only installed the NVIDIA drivers so that I could get some webgl stuff working. It works but it's not so fast.
Having said all that I installed the NVIDIA drivers to this old AMD 64. Had to rebuild after a hard drive failure. Now my accelerated webgl works under Firefox but not Chrome like it did before....grrrr
Yeah I'm the Windows guru for most people I know. I imagine that you are correct that Linux is better now, but at the moment I don't have a need to try it. I can't remember why I went with Ubuntu over Debian, but I think at the time the Debian install was really rough asking me to set up all kinds of partitions while Ubuntu recommended a scheme so I went with that.
Keeping windows xp past its "date" isn't all that big of a deal. Just download offline updaters like WSUS so you can reinstall xp and the updates if you have problems. Part of the reason to upgrade the os is security, but if you are still using xp TODAY, you have gone well past expiration of any securities you thought you had. Of all the reasons, using a newer os for better security, would be at the top.
Whats funny, is why isn't a much stronger encryption used? The reason we didn't do this in the past was cpu time it took to encrypt, but today, a single second blip of modern cpu power and we can generate encryption on levels that its even hard for super computers to work with. But yet the browsers and webservers don't push that direction.....
I just found out about a month ago that Win7 Desktop gadgets had to be disabled for security reasons. Now they have been gone I don't miss them. I used to have an old IBM ThinkPad and one time swapped out XP for Win7 and it ran a lot faster w/ Win7.
Keeping windows xp past its "date" isn't all that big of a deal. Just download offline updaters like WSUS so you can reinstall xp and the updates if you have problems. Part of the reason to upgrade the os is security, but if you are still using xp TODAY, you have gone well past expiration of any securities you thought you had. Of all the reasons, using a newer os for better security, would be at the top.
Whats funny, is why isn't a much stronger encryption used? The reason we didn't do this in the past was cpu time it took to encrypt, but today, a single second blip of modern cpu power and we can generate encryption on levels that its even hard for super computers to work with. But yet the browsers and webservers don't push that direction.....
I can't keep XP on machines because our vendors are telling us they will no longer support it. I don't use support often for workstations but they'll do anything to get out of doing their job, so unfortunately no more XP. Last time I heard that Vista workstations were corrupting a CTree database... They don't support Windows 8 or Server 2012 R2 either. I need to start figuring out a list of stuff I don't support.
Yeah it's nice CPU isn't much of a factor for encryption. I build routers for my company using Soekris Engineering boxes and embedded FreeBSD running m0n0wall. Those little cheesy CPUs can handle a bunch of triple DES IPSEC tunnels no problem at all.
Our whole work network is XP (medical practice). As a nerdy 'early adopter', a few weeks back I'd get a newer operating system so I got a machine with Win 8.1. Very nice, boots in about 10s instead of XP's 6 minutes, so it is now almost as fast to boot as CP/M was in the early 1980s. But... the IT guy said 8.1 would not work with all the medical software, so he took 8.1 off and installed Win 7. I got the feeling Win7 is the solid operating system that the IT crowd like (and the IT support guy thinks it is not strange at all to still be running XP).
I'm using 8.1 at home and I am happy with it, but it has taken computing back to the steep part of the learning curve for a while. It is nice though that whatever you plug into a USB drive works straight away as XP was getting a bit difficult there.
The only real criticism with Win 8.1 is that it looks like it is meant for a touchscreen, which means my kids keep leaving greasy fingerprints all over my venerable CRT monitor
erco said "But from what I hear, some [ebay win7] copies/keys aren't legit."
Yep, been there and been stung. Paypal, to their great credit, actually sent me a refund!
Keeping windows xp past its "date" isn't all that big of a deal. Just download offline updaters like WSUS so you can reinstall xp and the updates if you have problems. ...
I have manually downloaded all of the XP updates relevant to my PC using the Administrator option on the MS update site.
It stands at 988 files (7.44GB). Trying to apply them in the right order could be tricky though
Our whole work network is XP (medical practice). As a nerdy 'early adopter', a few weeks back I'd get a newer operating system so I got a machine with Win 8.1. Very nice, boots in about 10s instead of XP's 6 minutes, so it is now almost as fast to boot as CP/M was in the early 1980s. But... the IT guy said 8.1 would not work with all the medical software, so he took 8.1 off and installed Win 7. I got the feeling Win7 is the solid operating system that the IT crowd like (and the IT support guy thinks it is not strange at all to still be running XP).
I'm using 8.1 at home and I am happy with it, but it has taken computing back to the steep part of the learning curve for a while. It is nice though that whatever you plug into a USB drive works straight away as XP was getting a bit difficult there.
The only real criticism with Win 8.1 is that it looks like it is meant for a touchscreen, which means my kids keep leaving greasy fingerprints all over my venerable CRT monitor
erco said "But from what I hear, some [ebay win7] copies/keys aren't legit."
Yep, been there and been stung. Paypal, to their great credit, actually sent me a refund!
Mind if I ask what EMR software you're using? I kinda poll everyone I know...
We deal with mostly McKesson and eClinicalWorks, some new sites have MD Suite.
Our whole work network is XP (medical practice). As a nerdy 'early adopter', a few weeks back I'd get a newer operating system so I got a machine with Win 8.1. Very nice, boots in about 10s instead of XP's 6 minutes, so it is now almost as fast to boot as CP/M was in the early 1980s. But... the IT guy said 8.1 would not work with all the medical software, so he took 8.1 off and installed Win 7. I got the feeling Win7 is the solid operating system that the IT crowd like (and the IT support guy thinks it is not strange at all to still be running XP).
I'm using 8.1 at home and I am happy with it, but it has taken computing back to the steep part of the learning curve for a while. It is nice though that whatever you plug into a USB drive works straight away as XP was getting a bit difficult there. The only real criticism with Win 8.1 is that it looks like it is meant for a touchscreen, which means my kids keep leaving greasy fingerprints all over my venerable CRT monitor
erco said "But from what I hear, some [ebay win7] copies/keys aren't legit."
Yep, been there and been stung. Paypal, to their great credit, actually sent me a refund!
At least it's better than whiteout on your screen after a trip to Ireland
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OK, here we go:
Or: That's an out of the box Debian install. I haven't fetched the NVIDIA drivers yet.
I'm going to have to figure something out to replace Windows XP on a ton of Fujitsu B Series laptops. I've got a one here now and I'm downloading Wheezy.
Don't expect miracles from that on board graphics on the AMD 4000+ mother boards. I only installed the NVIDIA drivers so that I could get some webgl stuff working. It works but it's not so fast.
Having said all that I installed the NVIDIA drivers to this old AMD 64. Had to rebuild after a hard drive failure. Now my accelerated webgl works under Firefox but not Chrome like it did before....grrrr
Seriously, Windows is not much better.
I have no idea if Windows is better or not. I only have to keep it running for a few friends. I can't actually do anything with it.
Whats funny, is why isn't a much stronger encryption used? The reason we didn't do this in the past was cpu time it took to encrypt, but today, a single second blip of modern cpu power and we can generate encryption on levels that its even hard for super computers to work with. But yet the browsers and webservers don't push that direction.....
I can't keep XP on machines because our vendors are telling us they will no longer support it. I don't use support often for workstations but they'll do anything to get out of doing their job, so unfortunately no more XP. Last time I heard that Vista workstations were corrupting a CTree database... They don't support Windows 8 or Server 2012 R2 either. I need to start figuring out a list of stuff I don't support.
Yeah it's nice CPU isn't much of a factor for encryption. I build routers for my company using Soekris Engineering boxes and embedded FreeBSD running m0n0wall. Those little cheesy CPUs can handle a bunch of triple DES IPSEC tunnels no problem at all.
I'm using 8.1 at home and I am happy with it, but it has taken computing back to the steep part of the learning curve for a while. It is nice though that whatever you plug into a USB drive works straight away as XP was getting a bit difficult there.
The only real criticism with Win 8.1 is that it looks like it is meant for a touchscreen, which means my kids keep leaving greasy fingerprints all over my venerable CRT monitor
erco said "But from what I hear, some [ebay win7] copies/keys aren't legit."
Yep, been there and been stung. Paypal, to their great credit, actually sent me a refund!
I have manually downloaded all of the XP updates relevant to my PC using the Administrator option on the MS update site.
It stands at 988 files (7.44GB). Trying to apply them in the right order could be tricky though
Mind if I ask what EMR software you're using? I kinda poll everyone I know...
We deal with mostly McKesson and eClinicalWorks, some new sites have MD Suite.