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Yellowstone SuperVolcano much larger than previously thought

Ron CzapalaRon Czapala Posts: 2,418
edited 2014-02-13 20:23 in General Discussion
HELENA, MONT – The hot molten rock beneath Yellowstone National Park is 2 1/2 times larger than previously estimated, meaning the park's supervolcano has the potential to erupt with a force about 2,000 times the size of Mount St. Helens, according to a new study.

By measuring seismic waves from earthquakes, scientists were able to map the magma chamber underneath the Yellowstone caldera as 55 miles long, lead author Jamie Farrell of the University of Utah said Monday.

The chamber is 18 miles wide and runs at depths from 3 to 9 miles below the earth, he added.

The largest blast -- the volcano's first -- was 2,000 times the size of the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens in Washington state. A similar one would spew large amounts of volcanic material in the atmosphere, where it would circle the earth, he said.

"It would be a global event," Farrell said. "There would be a lot of destruction and a lot of impacts around the globe."


http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/12/17/yellowstone-magma-much-bigger-than-thought-study-says/

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  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2013-12-28 07:34
    So the movie "2012" will actually happen? Watch at 1:10. I'm buying a limo just in case. They can apparently survive anything.
  • Peter KG6LSEPeter KG6LSE Posts: 1,383
    edited 2013-12-28 07:38
    o.0 ... 2000X larger is a ton more ......

    Too bad there is not a way to release the pressure like a small zit on the earth so that it does not build up too much pressure.



    ticking time bomb .

    Irony, Yellowstone is one of the most wonderfull places you can visit .



    .
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2013-12-28 07:47
    I actually heard the St. Helen's blast on the day it occured - a Sunday, May 18th. And I was only about 250 miles away in Newport, Oregon.

    Apparently that was small potatoes compared to the Bikini Atoll Castle Bravo nuclear tests that lit up the night sky of Wakaki Beach in Honolulu, Hawaii at a distance of about 1000 miles.

    I am not too worried about Yellowstone. After all, I am in Taiwan.
  • Ron CzapalaRon Czapala Posts: 2,418
    edited 2013-12-28 08:04
    I've been reading Dan Brown's INFERNO which concerns the exponential human population growth issue and a fictional attempt to resolve it.

    Probably a bigger concern for us all...

    It is expected to rise to 10.5 billion by 2050 from the current 7+ billion...

    World population clock - http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
  • skylightskylight Posts: 1,915
    edited 2013-12-28 08:39
    It's time that engineers discovered a way to safely tap all that energy both heat and pressure, rather than leaving it to become a disaster
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2013-12-28 09:06
    I've been reading Dan Brown's INFERNO which concerns the exponential human population growth issue and a fictional attempt to resolve it.

    Probably a bigger concern for us all...

    It is expected to rise to 10.5 billion by 2050 from the current 7+ billion...

    World population clock - http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

    Well if we just go back to 8 oz sodas and single patty hamburgers without the cheese, we might just be able to feed the world through 2050.

    Of course, if I am arond in 2050, I will be 103. So I just wonder why Hollywood and Dan Brown make a market in such senarios. I've been living with the doom and gloom ever since the first Godzila movie. Earth has died 1000 times over, maybe much more.

    The reality is the that nothing changed at Yellowstone. Our information about Yellowstone changed. Back in the 1990s we got a new generation of higher resolution ultrasonic medical imagining in Taiwan. Suddenly the doctors were seeing more and scaring everyone with their observation... which they really couldn't sort out the implications of.

    This is new information... too early to get worried.
  • wasswass Posts: 151
    edited 2013-12-28 09:17
    Well if we just go back to 8 oz sodas and single patty hamburgers without the cheese, we might just be able to feed the world through 2050.

    Nah, that just makes the situation worse, we'll all be healthier and live longer -- way more then 10.5B by 2050. I say 64 oz sodas and more fatburgers for all!
  • Hal AlbachHal Albach Posts: 747
    edited 2013-12-28 10:13
    I wonder which mega-disaster will happen first, Yellowstone cooking off or this pleasant little scenario:

    Dr Simon Day, who works at the Benfield Greig Hazards Research Centre, University College London*, says that one flank (Western) of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the island of La Palma, in the Canaries, is unstable and could plunge into the ocean during the volcano's next eruption. [SIZE=+1]Dr. Day says: "If the volcano collapsed in one block of almost 20 cubic kilometres of rock, weighing 500 billion tonnes - twice the size of the Isle of Wight - it would fall into water almost 4 miles deep and create an undersea wave 2000 feet tall. Within five minutes of the landslide, a dome of water about a mile high would form and then collapse, before the Mega Tsunami fanned out in every direction, travelling at speeds of up to 500 mph. A 330ft wave would strike the western Sahara in less than an hour."

    He goes on to say that the major portion of the Tsunami will be aimed squarely at the US East coast and in 7 hours the 330 foot wave will inundate the East Coast up to several miles inland.

    Happy New Year, everybody!

    [/SIZE]
  • KotobukiKotobuki Posts: 82
    edited 2013-12-28 13:56
    Most likely the Canary island thing. One good quake or steam explosion from that volcano, and I do not want to even think about the damage the tsunami will make.

    I just pray that neither happen. Way too many lives will be lost.

    Best,

    Joe
  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2013-12-28 16:02
    "And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven ....."

    Wormwood, Artemisia absinthium, is a source of Absinthe and Vermuth (http://azarius.net/encyclopedia/19/Wormwood/ not peer reviewed). Fascinating.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2013-12-29 04:11
    Any day now as a result of the North Pole ice cap melting and a similar melting of the Antarctic ice cap, we may just have the earth get all wobbly, and shfit to a new axis.

    Along the way, there might be earthquakes, erruptions, and tsunamis galore. Yellowstone just might be one zone of destruction amongst many. So I suppose that we should not get too worried. One can live for months on instant noodles supplimented by rodent protien.
  • skylightskylight Posts: 1,915
    edited 2013-12-30 11:20
    One can live for months on instant noodles supplimented by rodent protien.
    All of a sudden I seem to have gone off Ratatouille :tongue:
  • trookstrooks Posts: 228
    edited 2014-02-09 17:12
    >>........
    The reality is the that nothing changed at Yellowstone.<<

    Actually it has been known for quite a some time that the lake in Yellowstone Park is migrating into the forest at one end. It is also known that it is a result of the magma chamber under the park filling and causing a bulge that tilts the land the lake rest on.

    >>..........
    This is new information... too early to get worried. <<

    Worry now or later will be equally wasted. There are almost as many theories about the result of Yellowstones' next eruption as there are scientist to publish then. But from what is known from the geologic record most if not all of North America will be toast and the world will loose a major bread basket.

    I feel confident that I am in infinitely more danger getting to and from town on my bi-monthly shopping forays.<Slight Crooked Grin>
  • trookstrooks Posts: 228
    edited 2014-02-09 21:19
    Hal Albach wrote: »
    I wonder which mega-disaster will happen first, Yellowstone cooking off or this pleasant little scenario:

    Dr Simon Day, who works at the Benfield Greig Hazards Research Centre, University College London*, says that one flank (Western) of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the island of La Palma, in the Canaries, is unstable and could plunge into the ocean during the volcano's next eruption. [SIZE=+1]Dr. Day says: "If the volcano collapsed in one block of almost 20 cubic kilometres of rock, weighing 500 billion tonnes - twice the size of the Isle of Wight - it would fall into water almost 4 miles deep and create an undersea wave 2000 feet tall. Within five minutes of the landslide, a dome of water about a mile high would form and then collapse, before the Mega Tsunami fanned out in every direction, travelling at speeds of up to 500 mph. A 330ft wave would strike the western Sahara in less than an hour."

    He goes on to say that the major portion of the Tsunami will be aimed squarely at the US East coast and in 7 hours the 330 foot wave will inundate the East Coast up to several miles inland.

    Happy New Year, everybody!

    [/SIZE]


    If the chunk of island hasn't detached to the ocean floor by the time Yellowstone blows both will likely happen almost simultaneously.

    Should the earth get hit by a sizable asteroid the seismic shock of that event could likely trigger both and a host of other earthquakes or eruptions. Once the continental plates start dancing it could be lights out for many 'higher' forms of life on this planet.


    Sweet dreams Y'all,

    Tim
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2014-02-10 12:09
    So in other words, enjoy what you can while you can. Ya just never know.
  • xanatosxanatos Posts: 1,120
    edited 2014-02-10 13:55
    We need to start a global campaign to ring the entire region with several miles thick rings of marshmallows on sticks, so that when it blows, we can absorb all that energy by toasting the marshmallows, and thus saving the North American continent and supplying the world with decades worth of free toasted marshmallows.
  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,566
    edited 2014-02-10 14:01
    (Tongue in Cheek) --> I'm wearing my Vinz Clortho helmet just to be safe ...
  • User NameUser Name Posts: 1,451
    edited 2014-02-10 16:22
    trooks wrote: »
    Worry now or later will be equally wasted.

    That gets my +1 for the day. :-)
  • kwinnkwinn Posts: 8,697
    edited 2014-02-10 20:21
    User Name wrote: »
    That gets my +1 for the day. :-)

    Same here! Que Sera, Sera.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2014-02-10 22:45
    Quoting economist Adam Smith when asked about his forecast for the long run: "In the long run, we'll all be dead."

    -Phil
  • Too_Many_ToolsToo_Many_Tools Posts: 765
    edited 2014-02-11 17:00

    When I read about this years ago, I was reminded of all the civilizations that have come and gone...and we are left asking what happened?

    Based on what I had read...before the recent calculations that emphasize how much larger it really is...the last eruption of this volcano wiped out most life on the North American continent...and the remaining ash cloud plunged the world into another Ice Age.

    So...if this super volcano did erupt about all you can do is grab a beer and sit back and watch..we are all history...for some future civilization to contemplate.....like we do of Pompeii


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompeii

    FWIW...I believe a movie called Pompeii is coming soon...in 3D yet.

    FWIW...the article mentioned that the initial blast zone (everything turned to ash) extended as far east as Chicago
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2014-02-13 20:23
    If it makes you feel any better, about 0.75% of everyone who dies in the US these days, dies in a car accident.
    I always compare any threats I might contemplate to the odds of getting killed by a drunk driver.
    I'm guessing there's a greater chance of getting killed by some teenage girl yacking on her cell phone than by some mega-caldera blowing up soon.

    this is the way the world will end
    this is the way the world will end
    this is the way the world will end
    not with a bang
    but by some teenage girl yacking on her cell phone about the new tat she just got.
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