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Looking for a Microcontroller Robotic Kit to buy

KyeKye Posts: 2,200
edited 2013-12-14 05:44 in General Discussion
I'm interested in buying a microcontroller robotics kit for a 9th grader. I want to get something that introduces electronics and robotics, etc. I remember the 'What's a microcontroller' for the BASIC Stamp being very good. But, I was wondering if the Propeller Activity Kit has the same amount of material and quality. I can't seem to find the same trove of data that was available on the new Parallax website that the old one had.

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  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,392
    edited 2013-12-12 10:33
    That's because it's not on Parallax.com - it's all right here:

    http://learn.parallax.com/propeller-c-set-simpleide
    http://learn.parallax.com/propeller-c-simple-circuits
    http://learn.parallax.com/propeller-c-simple-devices

    Propeller Activity Board + What's a Microcontroller Parts Kit would be the equivalent for Propeller.

    Or, if you prefer the BS2, you can still buy What's a Microcontroller which includes the BS2. It's still very popular.

    Ken Gracey
  • KyeKye Posts: 2,200
    edited 2013-12-12 12:49
    Thanks Ken,

    What would you recommend for the teacher-less environment where the kid has to work through everything by themselves?
  • GenetixGenetix Posts: 1,754
    edited 2013-12-12 14:43
    The What's a Microcontroller Kit (WAM - 28152) and The BOE-Bot Robot Kit (28132 - Serial Port, or 28832 - USB) both come with printed books. The Board of Education (BOE) from the BOE-Bot can be used for all the WAM experiments before using it to build the BOE-Bot.
    Or there is the BASIC Stamp Activity Kit (BSAK - 90005) which has WAM along with a BASIC Stamp Homework Board (HWB). The HWB is a stripped-down version of the BOE.
    The BSAK and BOE-Bot are both currently sale.

    The BOE-Bot can always be converted to an Activity Bot, which uses the Propeller Activity Board, at a later date.
  • Too_Many_ToolsToo_Many_Tools Posts: 765
    edited 2013-12-12 15:59
    It will be heresy here on a Parallax board but I would also reccommend looking at the Arduino.There is a vast support system out there for it.Good luck with the selection.
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2013-12-12 22:26
    reccommend looking at the Arduino
    Thems fightin words round here!!!! Besides, why settle for a single core when you can have 8???????
  • Too_Many_ToolsToo_Many_Tools Posts: 765
    edited 2013-12-13 11:53
    NWCCTV wrote: »
    Thems fightin words round here!!!! Besides, why settle for a single core when you can have 8???????

    LOL..yeah I know. ;<)

    If one goes Parallax I would go with the Basic Stamp.

    There is a reason why Basic has been the first computer language for millions...it works.

    The Propeller, while an interesting architecture, would be adding unneeded complexity to the first experiences with a microcontroller.
  • Steph LindsaySteph Lindsay Posts: 767
    edited 2013-12-13 13:39
    Parallax and Arduino are not mutually exclusive, no fighting necessary - we have an Arduino option as well.
  • KyeKye Posts: 2,200
    edited 2013-12-13 14:08
    I'm mainly looking for something with the most material to keep the student busy. I know the BASIC Stamp has all those books online.
  • Steph LindsaySteph Lindsay Posts: 767
    edited 2013-12-13 14:30
    BASIC Stamp definitely has the most supported tutorials and projects at this time. If your friend has a Windows computer, I'd say go with a BASIC Stamp Boe-Bot. I think PBASIC is great for a first-time, text-based programming experience. Below, I've pasted in a list of activities from the What's a Microcontroller text that you can do with the parts in a Boe-Bot kit. That, combined with some of the Stamps in Class Mini Projects, should keep your friend busy for a while. Do know that one must enter the code by hand, or copy from the book PDFs at best. Better learning experience, but slower.

    (But, if Mac is the only option, I'd suggest an ActivityBot. There's less material to date (the program is less than a year old while Stamps in Class has had years to grow and refine) but there is still quite a bit to do and the long-term capabilities are much broader. Suggest Start Simple and some Simple Circuits first, before diving into the ActivityBot. Many code examples and libraries come with the installer, and others are right in their tutorials for download, so there is working code to start with instead of having to type it all from scratch. If you think that your friend will need lots of one-on-one support and only Arduino users will be on hand for mentoring, I'd say go with the Shield-Bot as a third choice.)


    *************************************************************************************************
    What's a Microcontroller? activites you can do with Boe-Bot Robot Parts

    Question: "What activities can we do from the "What’s a Microcontroller?" text using the parts included in the Boe-Bot Robot Kit?”

    Answer: "Quite a lot!"

    Teachers frequently ask this question, so we have made a list below, for your reference. It shows the cross-compatibility for using the "What's a Microcontroller?" v3.0 with just the parts included in the Boe-Bot Robot kits v3.0.

    Many teachers present some activities from "What's a Microcontroller?" in a separate unit before working with the Boe-Bot robot. This helps introduce core programming and electronics concepts and circuit-building skills without the distraction of wanting to "just make the robot go!" Then students are even better equipped for success with the Boe-Bot when used in a second unit.

    Chapter 1: Getting Started (Download & install the software, write simple PBASIC programs.)

    (All) The activities are the same in both books, done through the BASIC Stamp Editor Help file (or equivalent PDF download).

    Chapter 2: Lights On – Lights Off (Controlling LEDs, DO...LOOP, FOR...NEXT)

    Activity #1: Building and Testing an LED Circuit
    Activity #2: On/Off Control with the BASIC Stamp
    Activity #3: Counting and Repeating
    Activity #4: Building and Testing a Second LED Circuit

    Chapter 3: Digital Input: Pushbuttons (Reading input states, IF...THEN)

    Activity #1: Testing a Pushbutton with an LED Circuit
    Activity #2: Reading a Pushbutton with the BASIC Stamp
    Activity #3: Pushbutton Control of an LED
    Activity #4: Two Pushbuttons Controlling Two LEDs

    Chapter 7: Measuring Light (Phototransistor, data logging, hysteresis, READ, WRITE)

    Activity #1: Building and Testing the Light Meter
    Activity #2: Tracking Light Events
    Activity #3: Graphing Light Measurements (Optional)
    Activity #5: On/Off Phototransistor Output (Circuit from Activity #1, ignore 7-segment LED)
    Activity #6: For Fun—Measure Outdoor Light with an LED

    Chapter 8: Frequency & Sound (Piezospeaker, FREQOUT, LOOKUP, LOOKDOWN, SELECT...CASE)

    Activity #1: Building and Testing the Speaker
    Activity #2: Action Sounds
    Activity #3: Musical Notes and Simple Songs
    Activity #4: Microcontroller Music
    Activity #5: Ringtones with RTTTL

    Chapter 10: Prototyping Your Own Inventions (Subsystem testing and integration)

    (#1–4, except...) The first four activities could be accomplished with the addition of a 10 kΩ single-turn potentiometer (#152-01031). The remainder is worth reading.
  • rogersydrogersyd Posts: 223
    edited 2013-12-13 18:44
    What's a Microcontroller Kit (WAM - 28152) and The BOE-Bot Robot Kit (28132 - Serial Port, or 28832 - USB)

    Those two kits hooked me for life...
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2013-12-13 19:44
    Those two kits hooked me for life...
    Ditto. Then I moved to the Dark Side and the Propeller and I am happy I did. However, without the Basic Stamp as my starting point I may never have even gotten started with MCU's.
  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,392
    edited 2013-12-13 21:29
    NWCCTV wrote: »
    Ditto. Then I moved to the Dark Side and the Propeller and I am happy I did. However, without the Basic Stamp as my starting point I may never have even gotten started with MCU's.

    Dark Side and back. Now you are InSide, SpinSIDE, right SIDE up, the bright side!

    I'm with you on that last point - I also learned with the BS2 and would've never gotten started without it.
  • max72max72 Posts: 1,155
    edited 2013-12-14 05:44
    I started with basic stamp 2 too.
    While it took little to find BS2 limiting and jumping to the prop, starting from scratch with the Propeller would've been a much steeper curve, maybe too steep...
    Massimo
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