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1000 watt handheld cleaning laser

W9GFOW9GFO Posts: 4,010
edited 2013-10-02 12:47 in General Discussion
Here's an interesting tool;

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  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2013-10-01 05:17
    Looks very handy for automotive restoration.

    I do wonder how it might do at tatoo removal (ouch... ouch.. oooouch..)
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2013-10-01 06:10
    "Cleans Chrome and Mirrors, too!" :lol:

    This is far from idiot proof which means 98% of the DIY crowd will suffer damages and bring lawsuits and the company will die a miserable death in court. Pity, it looks like an amazing tool in the proper, trained hands.
  • User NameUser Name Posts: 1,451
    edited 2013-10-01 07:40
    I love this tool! But in an odd way it reminds me of a lovely lighter I once had. It was equipped with a platinum wire spiral that catalyzed butane combustion. As a result, it 1) lit first time every time and 2) would stay lit even in very windy conditions. Thing is, I don't smoke. The lighter was used almost exclusively for lighting visco, something I did a lot back then. (??)

    In no time at all, the spit of the fuse (containing potassium carbonate, potassium sulfate, potassium sulfide, sulfur, etc) contaminated the platinum wire until the lighter was almost completely useless. I would have imagined the incandescent temperature at which the platinum operated would have burned off all contaminants. Not so.

    So I can't watch this video without imagining the trouble of keeping the optics clean. Very clean. And if you didn't, I can imagine the optics cracking or melting.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2013-10-01 07:45
    Maybe it comes with a mirrored lens cover to make it self cleaning! :lol:
  • ctwardellctwardell Posts: 1,716
    edited 2013-10-01 07:52
    User Name wrote: »
    Thing is, I don't smoke. The lighter was used almost exclusively for lighting visco, something I did a lot back then. (??)

    So I looked up 'visco'...

    I guess that's another entry in my NSA file...

    C.W.
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2013-10-01 07:54
    Rich, cool video. Can I talk you into switching the link to the original?

    The video posted appears to be a copy by someone posting a bunch of spam on YouTube.

    Edit: Thanks Rich.
  • User NameUser Name Posts: 1,451
    edited 2013-10-01 08:01
    ctwardell wrote: »
    I guess that's another entry in my NSA file...

    Oh, Smile!
    mindrobots wrote: »
    Maybe it comes with a mirrored lens cover to make it self cleaning! :lol:

    ...it seemed like a good idea in the boardroom...
  • ctwardellctwardell Posts: 1,716
    edited 2013-10-01 08:19
    I need to have them come do a demo and burn off the driveway sealer that I splashed on the sidewalk.

    C.W.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2013-10-01 08:23
    ctwardell wrote: »
    I need to have them come do a demo and burn off the driveway sealer that I splashed on the sidewalk.

    C.W.

    That ought to really test their fume extractor.......wonder if they have a fire suppressor attachment for situations like this?
  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,566
    edited 2013-10-01 08:26
    Hmmm ... removing graffiti art might work here. Still without some sort of reflection hood this seems to be a reckless use of a laser. That much power and hitting a surface you "thought" wasn't as reflective as it actually is could cause irreversible trouble.
  • Peter KG6LSEPeter KG6LSE Posts: 1,383
    edited 2013-10-01 08:43
    I doubt its 1000 W CW ,,,,,,, it has to be pulsed at that power and that size .
  • ratronicratronic Posts: 1,451
    edited 2013-10-01 09:19
    I ran into this on the internet the other day and they are using direct diode lasers. It looks like they have a 2Kw model.

    http://teradiode.com/
  • Duane C. JohnsonDuane C. Johnson Posts: 955
    edited 2013-10-01 09:30
    I doubt its 1000 W CW ,,,,,,, it has to be pulsed at that power and that size .
    Yes Peter it is pulsed.
    You can see the pulses in the video where it produces lines when moved rapidly.

    Safety, ya that would be a problem.
    They have done some things to help alleviate this by essentially defocusing the laser into a wide short focal length aperture line.
    Unlike what one normally thinks about lasers with tight beam apertures this defocused laser's power density drops rapidly a few feet away. Of course laser goggles are mandatory.

    BTW, I'm a member of the group "Kansas City Space Pirates" grabbed the world flight record of 25 hours for beamed power last weekend. This used a tracked 500W neodymium laser 90 feet away.
    "Laser Powered Flight Record attempt"
    We are extremely safety conscious when doing these things. But this is a tightly focused beam.

    I remember in my younger days attending an outdoor "Blue Oyster Cult" light show before the concert. Wonderful effects with a water cooled CW green gas laser of about 1000W, as I was told. Now that was quite dangerous in my opinion! This was just before heavy safety restrictions were placed doing such things.

    Duane J
  • ratronicratronic Posts: 1,451
    edited 2013-10-01 09:36
    Duane I saw a Blue Oyster Cult concert around 1980 or late 70's that some of the laser effects actually hit the audience eyes.
  • Duane C. JohnsonDuane C. Johnson Posts: 955
    edited 2013-10-01 09:49
    ratronic wrote: »
    Duane I saw a Blue Oyster Cult concert around 1980? that some of the laser effects actually hit the audience eyes.
    Yes, that is what I saw too.
    The effects were wonderful to see especially some of the dancing patterns totally enveloping the radiance and roof of the auditorium.
    They had some trouble with the outdoor free show. It was in a park in the dead of winter and it gets cold here in Minnesota. They broke one of their lasers due to freezing the cooling water.
    As I recall these were argon gas lasers about 8 feet long. I was about 25 feet away. The output was through 1" or so fiber optic waveguides.

    Oh to be young and stupid again.

    Duane J
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2013-10-01 09:56
    Oh to be young and stupid again.

    Yeah, 'cuz now that I'm old and stupid it just isn't near as much fun! :lol:
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2013-10-01 11:09
    I always wondered how night clubs get away with all the lasers pointing into the crowd. I guess they're moving so fast that it wouldn't be able to hit your eye long enough?
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2013-10-01 11:44
    So, like James Bond, the next time I'm trapped in a Soviet-era iron locomotive, I can use this thing to burn a hole into the floor so I can get out with the beautiful girl that I just saved.

    I'll buy two of these lasers, please.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2013-10-01 12:51
    So, like James Bond, the next time I'm trapped in a Soviet-era iron locomotive, I can use this thing to burn a hole into the floor so I can get out with the beautiful girl that I just saved.

    I'll buy two of these lasers, please.

    Worse case, the locomotive will be ready for a paint job!!

    russian-steam-locomotive-so017-2211-built-in1947-igor-sinitsyn.jpg
  • Peter KG6LSEPeter KG6LSE Posts: 1,383
    edited 2013-10-01 15:25
    xanadu wrote: »
    I always wondered how night clubs get away with all the lasers pointing into the crowd. I guess they're moving so fast that it wouldn't be able to hit your eye long enough?

    Bingo! and the other part is the watts per CM ^2 is low as they use fat beams ..

    I have a small ND:YAG here . and one day Ill have a ruby ( If I ever get of my duff and make it work )

    The CO2 in the college lab needs the HR and OC and Ill have a 60 watt baby ....

    The lab has quite a few 808nm pulsed systems ... last year I fixed the 50 watt one . :)
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2013-10-01 16:32
    xanadu wrote: »
    I always wondered how night clubs get away with all the lasers pointing into the crowd. I guess they're moving so fast that it wouldn't be able to hit your eye long enough?

    As Peter mentions, they use a beam with a wide waist, so the effective power is spread out. The beam sweeps across the eye in just a few microseconds. In the US, these things are tightly controlled, and all laser installations over X milliwatts in public places must be accompanied by a variance that permits their use.

    And as important, the beams are all well within the visible spectrum. The most damaging are near infrared. They are close enough to visible light to still be directly focusable onto the retina, and because they are invisible or very dim, don't cause the normal reflexive protection when a bright light shines into the eye.
  • jim N8RHQjim N8RHQ Posts: 85
    edited 2013-10-01 19:28
    from
    http://teradiode.com/technology/

    "Power scaling. .... For directed energy weapons, the company has charted a development pathway that leads to a nearly diffraction limited, free-space 100 kW system."

    Does this mean I can finally have my phaser?
  • Peter KG6LSEPeter KG6LSE Posts: 1,383
    edited 2013-10-02 12:01
    Gordon: So true !

    the eye peaks near 550 nm . this is why I use 3-5 mW DPSS green lasers for all my stuff in my home lab.
    The 10 mW HeNe is only used for stuff where the beam MUST be TEM 00 .
    Diodes still are poor beams ( or at least they are at the price point I can afford them.)

    With the eye that much more sensitive to green I can " do more with less"

    power is power and /// power is what eats eyes ... ( grantaed deep UV and far IR do muck with differnt parts of the eye ..
    but in the Vis spectum for all practical reasons .... green burns retnas as bad as red.... so really DPSS Green at 532nm is great for my use.

    As far as IR ..... So true ! ....... If you can " see " 808 nm you are well on your way to a dead eye .


    the red 650 nm was 25 mW
    the 532 green was 15 ish mW
    the Blue 445 was 40 mW

    Granted CCDs and CMOS are NOT eyes but I can attest that the pic is the same britghtness as what I saw.
    the lasers here were for a galvo project last year ..


    8168582104_74417727ce_b.jpg





    back when I was still in LA in cali I met up with one of the worlds most well respected SS/ DPSS laser gurus at TRW ..
    Dr. Hagop Injeyan.

    I got to meet the Son ( the unit on a 8x10 foot optics table ) of TEHL and M-THEL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_High_Energy_Laser


    50 Watt bar diodes pulsed to I have no clue how high peak wattage .... then it pumped YAG slabs (

    It was a honor to touch and be near such a beast .......
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2013-10-02 12:47
    That photo is sure cool Peter. (You have a lot of them IMO.)
    Granted CCDs and CMOS are NOT eyes but I can attest that the pic is the same brightness as what I saw.

    I surprised to learn many (most?) camera sensors use groups of four sensors. One red, one blue and two green.

    Images are often encoded with higher resolution in green than the other colors.
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