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BOA won't program

brandanbrandan Posts: 52
edited 2013-09-28 16:42 in General Discussion
The BOE was working when got then suddenly I wasn't able to program it. Any answers why this is?

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  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2013-09-27 17:30
    I had a TV that worked when I got it then suddenly it didn't work.

    Sorry to be flippant but, No answers at all with out a lot more information.
  • RDL2004RDL2004 Posts: 2,554
    edited 2013-09-27 18:18
    Did you mean BOE? Most of what I get from Google for BOA is Bank of America. Not much help.
  • brandanbrandan Posts: 52
    edited 2013-09-27 19:20
    LOL, I mean BOE, well did try it on a monitor
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-09-27 19:28
    Are you sure it has power connected to it?

    If you're using a battery, are you sure it's not dead?
  • brandanbrandan Posts: 52
    edited 2013-09-27 20:25
    I won't run any programs, it's nothing to do with the batteries
  • FranklinFranklin Posts: 4,747
    edited 2013-09-27 20:29
    I won't run any programs, it's nothing to do with the batteries
    Without batteries it won't run any programs either, that is why we are asking for more info like how do you have it powered, what is it connected to, does it program, what does it do and things like that.
  • brandanbrandan Posts: 52
    edited 2013-09-27 20:34
    well used to run programs and now it doesn't. period
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-09-27 20:35
    brandan wrote: »
    well used to run programs and now it doesn't. period

    I bet your battery died.
  • brandanbrandan Posts: 52
    edited 2013-09-27 20:43
    I tested with another battery and it's the not battery
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-09-27 20:47
    brandan wrote: »
    I tested with another battery and it's the not battery

    Okay, believe it or not, now we're making progress. You need to tell us more about how it's not running programs. Are you getting error messages? for example, is anything lighting up, or does the entire board appear to be dead?
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-09-27 20:55
    Is your little Pwr LED lighting up when you turn it on?

    Is your 3-position power switch set to 0 instead of 1 or 2?
  • brandanbrandan Posts: 52
    edited 2013-09-27 21:00
    It's on, okay. says load okay. Try the same program on different board. I tried hello world program in spin. Also not blinking light that means sending data back to the computer.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-09-27 23:06
    brandan wrote: »
    It's on, okay. says load okay. Try the same program on different board. I tried hello world program in spin. Also not blinking light that means sending data back to the computer.

    What you wrote is a little confusing to me. If I understand you correctly, you are saying that the LED light is on, so your Propeller BOE indeed has power. Your computer shows that the SPIN program loads properly. You have tried the same SPIN program on a different Propeller BOE but you are getting the same problems. And one of those problems is that a light that is supposed to indicate that the BOE is sending data back to your computer is not blinking as it should. And I'm presuming you are not getting any messages back on your computer such as "Hello World."

    Do I understand you correctly so far?

    First, I am assuming you have a Propeller BOE and not a Basic Stamp BOE. The SPIN language will not work on a Basic Stamp.

    You might want to post your code. You can post code by placing it inside of "code tags."

    Place your code between [noparse]
    [/noparse][/b] and [b] [noparse]
    
    [/noparse]. Code tags will preserve the indentation of the SPIN language, which is important.
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2013-09-28 09:07
    Hello World?? Press F12 to display in PST.
  • brandanbrandan Posts: 52
    edited 2013-09-28 10:32
    I loaded the same program on a different board and it work. On both boards says it loaded fine. On the Boe It's load then doesn't run
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2013-09-28 10:38
    I do like a game of twenty questions:)

    OK. It programs correctly but there is no "Hello World" coming back. That could be because the XTAL oscillator is not working.

    Can you download a program that lights a LED? That should work no matter what rate the clock is running at.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-09-28 10:39
    brandan wrote: »
    I loaded the same program on a different board and it work. ...On the Boe It's load then doesn't run

    Are both boards a Propeller BOE? or by "different board" do you mean it is a Propeller board but something not a BOE?
  • brandanbrandan Posts: 52
    edited 2013-09-28 13:55
    one's quickstart but the BOE run ANYTHING. tried the led program and nothing but used to work
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-09-28 14:16
    brandan wrote: »
    one's quickstart but the BOE run ANYTHING. tried the led program and nothing but used to work

    I will attempt to translate this:

    One of my units is a Propeller Quickstart but the other unit is a Propeller BOE.

    The Propeller BOE will not run ANYTHING. I tried to run the LED blinking program on the Propeller BOE and it is not working, although it used to work.

    Brandan, is this what you are trying to say?
  • brandanbrandan Posts: 52
    edited 2013-09-28 14:19
    yes, that I'm saying
  • W9GFOW9GFO Posts: 4,010
    edited 2013-09-28 14:52
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  • Invent-O-DocInvent-O-Doc Posts: 768
    edited 2013-09-28 15:05
    I had this problem once, and it turned out that one of my kids took the crystal out of the board. Is the crystal firmly in the socket?
  • brandanbrandan Posts: 52
    edited 2013-09-28 15:28
    It looks like everything is intact. IDK maybe it the crystal. You think I should return it?
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-09-28 15:39
    brandan wrote: »
    It looks everything is intact. IDK maybe it the crystal. You think I should return it?

    I think there is a way to run the Propeller without an external crystal. I think it's called RCFAST, but I'm saying this off the top of my head. I've never used it before and I don't have my junk in front of me to try it out. Does anybody here know how to get a SPIN program into the Propeller without an external crystal and allow brandan to test out the bad crystal theory?

    Hey, W9GFO, stop feeding your face with popcorn and provide some suggestions here.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2013-09-28 16:16
    Yes you can program and run a Prop with no XTAL at all. That's how I worked with my first DIP Prop on a bread board for some months.

    As far as I remember if you remove any clock setting statements it will default to RCSLOW or whatever. Anyway "no XTAL mode". Then you should be able to program it and have it light a LED. Serial comms will not work.

    Now is a good time for brandan to check what I am saying in the manual.

    If that does not work things seem pretty hopeless.

    If that does work it's time to check the XTAL connections.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-09-28 16:25
    Heater. wrote: »
    ... Serial comms will not work.

    Now is a good time for brandan to check what I am saying in the manual. ....

    Thanks Heater.

    Okay, brandan, so I think what this means is that you need to read the manual about how to use RCSLOW and then program the Propeller BOE to simply blink an LED. Apparently, the "Hello World" serial terminal display will not work with RCSLOW, so you are reduced to running a test only with the LED.
  • W9GFOW9GFO Posts: 4,010
    edited 2013-09-28 16:42
    Brandan, there are lots of people here willing to take the time to help you but in order for this to work you really need to explain more about your problem.

    What board are you using? The BOE does not run the same code as a Quickstart. Are you using a BOE, the Propeller BOE or Propeller Activity Board? Please be specific.

    What code are you running? You can post the code here so that we can take a look at it. Did you make any changes to the code when trying on a different board?

    Do you have anything hooked up to the board? Sensors, LEDs, servos etc...?

    Pictures of your board would help immensely.

    If you are not able to take some time helping us to understand your situation then I would suggest phoning Parallax Monday morning, (888) 997-8267 and they will take care of you.
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