To Ariba - Andy Schenk

Kirk Fraser

Ariba,

I'm posting because a private message didn't appear to work - it wasn't saved in my sent folder. I ask for your help to create another Propeller PC Interface this time in a free Smalltalk such as Squeak or Cuis which can be shipped free with any application (& free licence) and includes the source code, larger viewing area, internet connection, a computer language and more. I think putting a powerful GUI IDE on the PC side of a Propeller would enable more advanced applications.

Feel free to email me at overcomer.man@gmail.com

Thanks.

Ariba

This will be a lot of work also if I would know already the language. But I never used Smalltalk and generally don't like OOP languages.
PropTerminal (the Application on the PC that talks to the PC_Interface object) is done in BASIC and compiles to a very small EXE which runs without installation or DLLs also from an USB-Stick.

A more advanced Application on the PC which also allows GUI and Internet access is a good idea, and I tought also about it, mainly as an App for Android. But I don't have the time and motivation to do it at the moment - sorry.

Andy

Kirk Fraser

Ariba wrote: »

This will be a lot of work also if I would know already the language. But I never used Smalltalk and generally don't like OOP languages.
PropTerminal (the Application on the PC that talks to the PC_Interface object) is done in BASIC and compiles to a very small EXE which runs without installation or DLLs also from an USB-Stick.

A more advanced Application on the PC which also allows GUI and Internet access is a good idea, and I tought also about it, mainly as an App for Android. But I don't have the time and motivation to do it at the moment - sorry.

Andy

I believe Squeak or Cuis can also operate from a thumb drive (memory stick). Another advantage of Smalltalk is it has a large built-in source code library, although it can take some work to figure out other people's code. One could make a smaller Smalltalk.

The thing I like about it is the variables are very generic pointers, so you can put in anything at any time, from an imaginary number to audio, video, or an encyclopedia. The rest isn't greatly different from Spin. An ideal system would have those generic variables plus access to all computer peripherals. Another thing that makes Smalltalk superior to the average .exe producing language is you can program it to program itself.

So what would it take to motivate you as a consultant?

Kirk Fraser

How about $200 ? I know that won't be "wages" but since it will be public, does it motivate you?

Kirk Fraser

Well to make the difference clear, with Squeak or Cuis Smalltalk EVERYBODY gets the source code. Nothing is hidden behind an .exe. If you were providing the source in Basic for PropTerminal, everyone who wanted to tweak it would have to buy a copy of the Basic compiler, in most cases. Exe's are generally a method for delivering function that hides source code which is a poor practice, especially if the source code gets lost and there is a need for an update - which I've seen happen in a government agency. That is just one of many things that make non-exe generating versions of Smalltalk superior to any .exe.