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How much must happen until

StefanL38StefanL38 Posts: 2,292
edited 2013-06-30 08:23 in General Discussion
you - I mean every single member of the US-society - will stand up and say "no this is too much!" ?

to be not misunderestood: as a german I owe the USA very much. The USA helped terminating the world war 2 and the dictatorship of Hitler.
For that even if it is more than 60 years ago I still say thank you very much! You (the USA) helped us to become a democracy.
As a person who is fully convinced of democracy and liberal rights, I feel obliged to point to the things that are threatening democracy
and these rights. Even in a pure technical forum.

I know it very well. The propeller-forum is a non-political pure technical forum. But again I ask
How much must happen until members and moderators of a technical forum start saying "no!" ?

Are you already scared that if you would post something critical some people will show up? Or that they will observe you? Than you already have lost.

500 million communications intercepted every month! Just in germany.
What's left from the spirit of freedom, the courage to take care to develop things to be more better?

To me it seems that you - the US-society - you have approved the paranoid security lovers to take over the power.
What do you think? What must happen until you start discussing this even in a technical forum?

Please post me some links what americans DO against this!

@the moderators:
please post a clear statement what would be a scenario where you would start using a technical forum to support freedom
and the right for untouchable privacy??

I'm very excited if and what kind of reactions will follow this posting.
best regards
Stefan

Comments

  • PliersPliers Posts: 280
    edited 2013-06-30 06:11
    I have little concerned about the loss of privacy.
    Because the world is full of crazy people, I have nothing to fear from our government.
    I would be concerned if the government targeted specific groups of innocent people and did them harm.
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2013-06-30 06:46
    The world has no more or no less percentage of crazy people than it ever had. There are more, as there ar more people alive now than there are dead. But the people themselves are pretty much idnetical to the people that have exisited as long as we have had civilization.

    The government of the US, however, now has the means to monitor communications. Any communication will be held against the citizens when it is to the governements advantage, to remain in power, eventually. WE are not the terrorists. The WAR ON DRUGS was BS. The WAR ON TERROR is BS. Wars are ONLY against governments. "War on Terror" is a lisencse to exerrcise military force without restriction of law. Allowing this to continue is whats crazy.

    Some in government truely believe they are doing good, but they are wrong. This is why we have laws to stop them.
  • Dr_AculaDr_Acula Posts: 5,484
    edited 2013-06-30 06:49
    Are you already scared that if you would post something critical some people will show up?

    No. As it so happens, I dislike my current government intensely. But I intend doing something about it by spending a whole day soon standing outside a polling booth handing out "how to vote" pamphlets. I treasure the sacrifices of those who fought for freedom so I can participate in democracy. I also welcome those who come to my country (Australia) from war torn places like Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and many other places, and I am greatly heartened by the way they also embrace democracy.
    Or that they will observe you?

    I hope they are observing me. I hope that if I type "How do I make a bomb" into google, that someone IS watching.

    The greatest tragedy is when ordinary people stop participating in government. When they stop showing an interest in policy development, when they stop talking to their local representative. When they feel they have lost the ability to change things.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2013-06-30 08:23
    Although the subject matter of this thread is something that concerns many of us, the Parallax Forums are not the proper venue to discusss such matters. The Forum Rules clearly state the following:
    The Parallax Discussion Forums is not the venue to discuss religious/non-religious agendas, nor is it a place for political rants or arguments. As stated above: the forums were created to promote and allow ongoing discussions about, but not limited to, products designed and developed by Parallax Inc. If you wish to discuss the existence of things divine or the most recent upheaval in the legislature of man, find another forum.

    As a consequence, this thread will be locked. Thank you for your understanding ...

    -Phil
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