Pellerduino

jazzed

Spent a few minutes getting Pellerduino running on Linux tonight.

LED Blinky works fine.

tritonium

Spent a few minutes getting Pellerduino running on Linux tonight.

.....respect..........( oh I wish I could do that...)

Now to improve on the arduino system... how about the ability to list the delivered code?

A good way to learn prop code me thinks.

Dave

Martin Hodge

Jazzed, what is this? Obviously I missed a very important thread somewhere!

mindrobots

Martin,

It's Pellerduino, of course!!

If I recall, Steve an I had stumbled across it independently a while back and there were a couple threads that died away discussing it (or not discussing it).

We brought it up again on the P2 marketing thread as a way to get Propellers visible in the Arduino IDE.

I just sent the Propduino team an email to see if there is any life/interest left in it from their side. I think it has promise as a way to integrate the Propeller into Arduino IDE. I'd like to see a selection of Propeller boards in the drop down list when you add the Propeller extensions just like everyone else is doing (PIC, .Net, etc.).

It needs a lot more work but it does function and they are up to date when you read the latest changes (8 months ago) as far as picking up CMM and other added features to PropGCC.

Sure would be cool to see a Prop ASC listed in Propduino!!

If I start trouble with this, you want to join in??

pjv

Hey All;

For what it's worth, I find the name Pellerduino or Propduino a little awkward.

So, if names are being bandied about, I like the combination of PARallax and arDUINO to form PARDUINO.

Rolls nicely off the tongue.

Just sayin'

Cheers,

Peter (pjv)

mindrobots

Pellerduino reminds me of bottled water but it is the name the original creator chose.

Parduino is so subtly different than arduino that it does roll nicely.

We'll just call it Project-X or the Propeller World Domination Effort until we get something working.

I refuse to call any code file a "sketch"!!

jazzed

Hi Guys.

Pellerduino is a project someone else started last year. I have no control over the name.

Martin, I just wanted to see how it works. Haven't tested anything beyond the blinky program.

This has nothing to do with SimpleIDE or other efforts underway.

Cheers.
--Steve

Oldbitcollector (Jeff)

Pellerduino would have been a perfect gag on the OPC event. Open the C discussion by showing this with the idea that all objects would now be called sketches.

You would have gotten a very interesting reaction I'm sure.

Jeff

Heater.

tritonium,

Now to improve on the arduino system... how about the ability to list the delivered code?

mindrobots,

I'd like to see a selection of Propeller boards in the drop down list

And there you have why this will not work.

The Arduino took off because it was simple. There were no options. There was only one chip and one board.

As soon as you start to "improve" it you destroy it.

mindrobots

Heater. wrote: »

And there you have why this will not work.

The Arduino took off because it was simple. There were no options. There was only one chip and one board.

As soon as you start to "improve" it you destroy it.

Have you looked at the list lately? UNO's nanos, minis, Leonardo's (which don't work with everything), 168 variants, 328 variants, etc, etc, etc......

There's one out there for CHIPkit PICduino's which you can have under their own IDE or I think you can merge with your main IDE....it's no longer simple but the quasi C++ is consistent across the boards and the IDE is consistent and a LOT more people are familiar with it than with Spin and the Spin Tool or BST or SimpleIDE. I think people would be much more willing to plug in a new board and pick Propeller Quickstart from a menu that also lists their Arduino UNO than to load up a new tool, learn a new IDE and possible a new language just to try out a new board. Once they are hooked, they move on to PropGCC just like the Arduino crowd moves on to the AVR tools.

tritonium

tritonium,

Now to improve on the arduino system... how about the ability to list the delivered code?

mindrobots,

I'd like to see a selection of Propeller boards in the drop down list

And there you have why this will not work.

The Arduino took off because it was simple. There were no options. There was only one chip and one board.

As soon as you start to "improve" it you destroy it.

But Isn't that how a programmers mind works...wouldn't it be nice if......and if I did this it would stand above the rest.... and...and...and.....

Dave

Dave Hein

That's great, Steve. Now all that's needed is to flesh out the libraries, and it's done. All those useful sketches out there in Arduino-world will instantly port to the Propeller.

Martin Hodge

mindrobots wrote: »

If I start trouble with this, you want to join in??

Can you rephrase the question without using the word "trouble"?

Steve, were there any special tricks you had to perform, or just the usual ./Configure, make, make install?

jazzed

There are some build instructions on the arduino site. https://code.google.com/p/arduino/wiki/BuildingArduino

Steps I did:

1. did pellerduino git on my linux machine (took a long time)
2. set the path to include /opt/parallax/bin for the propeller-gcc compiler
3. went to the build directory
4. entered ant
5. entered ant run
6. opened their blink project
7. selected quickstart
8. clicked verify? and upload? (tool-bar buttons?)

mindrobots

I heard back from the Pellerduino project owner.

1) basically, it's just the GPIO at this point (LED blinking) - he was aiming for an easy to handle Propeller library like Arduino's library.
2) the project is currently "temporarily" stopped
3) Linx32, Linux64 and MAc OSX IDE's are working - windows is not working at this time.
4) Of course, he'd welcome any help improving things and moving the project forward

The latest copy s the github version (the Google Code version is old)

So there we have it!

I have it running on Mac, It seems to do the blink program without problem. I didn't build it yet, there was a .dmg I found someplace.

So, when anyone gets bored, grab one of the Arduino core libraries and port it over!! Once those are done, it's world domination time!!

pedward

As much as you want name recognition, I think efforts to call it anything duino are not in the right direction. Firstly, if you read (somewhere) an interview with the creator of the Arduino, you'll quickly see how adding duino to the end of words, to signify Arduino similarity, starts to be really dumb in the mother tongue.

I would suggest that it be referred to as the ADE for Propeller or maybe something more clever like AD4Prop, just tossing out ideas.

Given how simply ugly the Arduino IDE is, why not just put the effort into making an Arduino class list for Simple IDE and make it a 1 click linkable option? It doesn't satisfy the intent of hiding the Propeller behind the ADE, but it would give sketches direct port capability to an extensible environment.

If SIDE is the standard bearer going forward, you might as well try to indoctrinate the newbs into it.

Heater.

pedward,

I agree with you but the is already a Prop ASC which is a Prop on a board with ADC and Arduino shield compatible connectors. It's a great little board even if you don't need Arduino compatibility. Problem is no one has ever heard of it and any Arduino user stumbling across it would never guess what it is.

That "...duino" thing is a great hook. Who cares if it sounds stupid in Italian? Most users are not Italian and there are many things in that sound stupid in different languages. Did you know that "katso" means "look" in Finnish and "penis" in Italian?

I do hope that SimpleIDE is the bearer going forward. It's a wonderful thing. But don't forget there are a lot of "newbs" to the micr-conroller world out there who are not quite so new and might feel comfortable and attracted by what they are familiar with, like the Pellerduino.

mindrobots

As far as naming it Pellerduino, nobody involved in this thread named it. We're just using the name it can be found under if you go Googling for it. If and when it's ever a viable offering, then the contributors can consider a name change.

If adding Propeller support to the Arduino IDE is what it takes to catch the imagination of a young Finish-Italian lad and turn his mind to programming instead of a life of sitting in the local pub in his small mountain village playing Katso-Katso, then that's enough recognition and reward for me!!

If you want to contribute, great! If you want to change the name then wait until it's working and come back then!

For now, maybe "Programmazione Elica per Arduino" or PEPA.....which upon doing further research won't go over real big in Spanish speaking countries.....