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Chrome and edit post broken?

Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
edited 2013-04-02 05:00 in General Discussion
I just put up a new box with 64 bit Debian 7.0. and Chrome 25.0.1364.160.All is well but a can not edit my posts with Chrome. Works fine in FireFox. Never had trouble before. There is no problem editing posts on other forums but here it just waits and waits when I hit the edit button.Has anyone else seen this happen, any ideas?

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  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2013-03-31 03:08
    hmmmm. Browser problems are always rather mysterious and bugs are fast moving.

    I see now that Chrome is available as a 'full Linux OS' from Google, not just a browser. You tried Firefox to narrow down that Chrome is the problem.

    I am posting fine in 32bit Firefox on Ubuntu 12.04. The situation may be that 64bit development is still a bit behind 32bit development. If that is the case, you might have to wait for Google to catch up and they may neglect the independent Chrome browser in preference for the 'full Linux OS' version.

    The ambitions of 'for profit' get caught up in promotions rather than follow what the users really want.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2013-03-31 03:12
    Loopy,

    Yes, FireFox is fine here on this same machine. In fact I had to make this reply on FF because the Chrome has decided not to let me reply to threads either!!!
  • TorTor Posts: 2,010
    edited 2013-03-31 04:35
    I'm on 64-bit Debian with Chromium:
    >apt-cache policy chromiumchromium:
      Installed: 25.0.1364.160-1
      Candidate: 25.0.1364.160-1
    
    and I can post, and edit too. There are some quirks though. If I click on embedded pictures I get a big black window instead of the expanded image, so I have to middle-click and open in another window - that works. But this is not Parallax forum specific though. What _is_ forum specific is that I have to insert line feeds manually for every line, like
    
    (Edit: I even have to do that inside 'code' as well, which means I can't actually write the code literally! Wait, maybe html works: <br>  - I think it does. That's what I have to insert after every line, even inside code.)
    But this is the same with Firefox! Very strange. I'm apparently the only one affected.

    -Tor
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2013-03-31 06:11
    I could use a bit of browser help.

    I have two netbooks - an Asus EEEpc 1015c and a Toshiba NB150 that both have Linux and W7 starter dual boot.

    I can use Chrome or Internet Explorer in W7 at the for pay wifi at the local Starbucks, www.wifly.com

    But I CAN NOT use Chrome or Firefox in Ubuntu Linux for onward links.

    In other words, it seems the hot spot provider is Linux wifi unfriendly. I have been trying to DIY with for a few weeks now. It seems like a DNS failure of some sort.

    Years ago, while visiting a friend in a local hospital, I found their wifi services okay in Window7, but not Linux. So this is a long standing problem. But Starbucks was previously fine until after the Chinese New Years holiday... something changed.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2013-03-31 06:27
    Loopy,

    I wonder if getting your Chrome and or Firefox to report itself as Internet Explorer is it's user agent string might help.

    Years back I could not do any online banking with Linux as the bank checked for IE. After I discovered that little trick all was OK.

    You will have to ask Google how to change your user agent strings. I don't remember just now.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2013-03-31 21:14
    @Heater
    I guess that is worth a try, but the implications would be rather nasty. You impliy that MS is trying to intentionally shut out other browsers from the wifi hot spots. While MS might try to do that, I suspect they would create a more subtle martix of bugs to avoid legal proceedings against them.

    I will point out that Chrome does NOT work in Linux, but works fine in W7. Of course, I had to download and install different versions.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2013-03-31 21:38
    I don't suspect any shenanigans by MS in this case.

    A browses user agent string can give away a lot of information about your machine. Here is an example:

    "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0"

    See it tells your browser, operating system, windowing system, even your CPU type.

    Web site builders try to use this to customize the HTML their websites deliver to your browser to work around bugs and variations in browsers. Which is basically a pretty dumb way to do it.

    As I said, in days past my banks web interface would not work if it saw a Linux OS. Or perhaps any non Windows OS or non-IE browser.. Perhaps they did not trust those evil Linux hackers:)

    It could be those WIFI access points have similar restrictions in place. With or without input from MS.

    Have a look here. http://www.useragentstring.com/

    Change user agent in Chrome http://spoofer-extension.appspot.com/about
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2013-04-01 05:38
    Well, I will repeat my problems salient issue. I can not get onward links in Chrome or Firefox within Ubuntu Linux; but on the same wifi services I can get the onward links in Chrome or Internet Explorer.

    It is NOT about being flatly refused a web site loading. It is the links... for instance, I use Google Mail from SeekingAlpha.com to read about the stock market. The GMAIL works fine in Chrome or Firefox, but when I mouse on a link in email referingto an article in SeekingAlpha, the page attempts to load and then fails.

    I seems to me a Linux unfriendly Hotspot, and something to do with either timing, number of attempts allowed, or a broken DNS.

    It is only the onward stuff that dies. I can go directly to SeekingAlpha's server, but I can't always get beyond the home page.
  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2013-04-01 13:08
    I have had the following problem with IE (before I stopped using it), haven't tried it on Chrome...if I post a new message and then try to edit it immediately the editor comes up, however none of the buttons are responsive. If I first navigate away from the new post/reply and then edit it, everything works fine. Weird, but I subconsciously refresh before editing now, which is why I haven't noticed if it happens in Chrome.

    Edit: Doesn't happen in Chrome. :surprise:
  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2013-04-01 14:28
    Posting in Chrome has never worked for me on Debian (6.08?).
    I just use the Mozilla based browser. Ice-something. Icon looks like a seal face.
  • Mike GMike G Posts: 2,702
    edited 2013-04-01 14:45
    There's a lot of goofy stuff that can happen with browsers. I looked at the edit link and it's a regular old link but the link's click event is handled by JQuery or a similar JavaScript library. Anyway, clicking Edit fires off a POST request. The content returned is the <quickedit> node which is inserted into the DOM on-the-fly.

    This is the AJAX call invoked from the edit button click.
    POST /ajax.php?do=quickedit&p=1170676 HTTP/1.1

    I'd suspect the JavaScript click event handlers first than the DOM update. Both can be troublesome. BTW, the form s running on Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu). At least that's what is being returned by the server.

    The easiest way to figure out what's up is to watch the HTTP headers using Chrome developer tools. Go to the network tab (dev tools) then click the form's Edit Post link. If you see an HTTP POST than click worked. If you're lucky, you might see an error.
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2013-04-01 18:56
    Heater. wrote: »
    I just put up a new box with 64 bit Debian 7.0. and Chrome 25.0.1364.160.All is well but a can not edit my posts with Chrome. Works fine in FireFox. Never had trouble before. There is no problem editing posts on other forums but here it just waits and waits when I hit the edit button.Has anyone else seen this happen, any ideas?

    Will I use both FF and Chrome (Chromium) on Linux Mint 14 x64 without any problems ever but normally I post from FF. Just to confirm if it is a purely Chrome problem I have as a result composed this post in Chromium on a Linux system.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2013-04-01 23:22
    I do indeed see that AJAX POST request. It status is 200 OK. But no edit box opens up only the progress.gif going around and around.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2013-04-01 23:24
    Strangely the "Reply to Thread" button at the bottom of the page does not work but the little "Reply" button under each post works.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2013-04-02 01:14
    I solved my browser problem with the local Starbucks wifi service and get to keep using Linux. Prior to this, I was looking at rebooting in W7 to get to all the sites I usually use.

    As I mentioned before, www.seekingalpha.com was rejected as an onward link from my GMAIL. So today, i just tried to go directly and was diverted to Google search and then refused.......

    So I switched my default search engine to Yahoo (in Firefox) and suddenly everything is working right again.... even the onward links in my Gmail to www.seekingalpha.com

    I had been suspecting that it was a Linux wifi configuration problem, but it appears that the Google search engine clashes with other Google services in Firefox when it is the default.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I have also been noticing of late that I can actually locate less costly vendors on Yahoo than on Google. I needed to buy a double edge safety razor from outside Taiwan and everything Google sent me to was a 'vintage razor' vendor, whereas I got a perfectly good Parker 82R that is a modern made in India for much less.

    Vendors pay more for Google, so they are generally more expensive... think about it.

    I still can't use Ebay as they have never figured out what to do with an American that wants to ship to Taiwan and pay with a US credit card. Registering with the Hong Kong EBay office is more difficult than getting a US Passport. Getting a Taiwanese major credti card as a resident alien is also a non-starter.

    And so, that's life abroad... quirky and complicated. Google definetly has gotten something messed up in thier Linux OS support, even Chrome won't work right for me.
  • TorTor Posts: 2,010
    edited 2013-04-02 05:00
    Heater. wrote: »
    Strangely the "Reply to Thread" button at the bottom of the page does not work but the little "Reply" button under each post works.
    I may have a workaround for this... always use right-click and select 'Open Link in New Window'
    That always works for me. I had forgotten about it, it's something I noticed a very long time ago (for several forums), so I now do it automatically.

    -Tor
    (posted and edited from Chromium)
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