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Really Weird eBay experience.

Martin_HMartin_H Posts: 4,051
edited 2013-03-16 09:54 in General Discussion
Parallax was auctioning off 3 Boe-Bot CMU Cams. I bid on one of them and had a fairly high max bid. I was the high bidder until just before the end of the auction, but then it got sniped out from under me by $1. Darn it, that's the second time I lost out on one of these.

But that's not the weird part. I was following all the auctions and although eBay masks their identity, you can tell that the same person won the other three auctions! There's one more up for auction, but it looks like someone wants these CMU cams badly. I also wonder how someone can so easily overbid by exactly one dollar.

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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2013-03-15 09:46
    Martin_H wrote:
    I also wonder how someone can so easily overbid by exactly one dollar.
    Automatic bidding.

    -Phil
  • Duane C. JohnsonDuane C. Johnson Posts: 955
    edited 2013-03-15 09:56
    His "Pain Factor" was higher than yours.

    "Pain Factor" is my personal highest bid I'm willing to pay. This is what I bid within the last 5 minutes.
    His may be higher than yours.

    The dollar thing happens automatically even though his final bid could have been much higher.

    Duane J
  • RDL2004RDL2004 Posts: 2,554
    edited 2013-03-15 10:11
    Several times I've seen where an item was won and it was pretty obvious the winning bid was automatic, then the same exact item from the same seller reappears for auction again a few days later. It made me wonder if they were somehow bidding on their own item in an attempt to try and raise the final price by pushing the "pain factor", so to speak.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-03-15 10:15
    RDL2004 wrote: »
    Several times I've seen where an item was won and it was pretty obvious the winning bid was automatic, then the same exact item from the same seller reappears for auction a few days later. It made me wonder if they were somehow bidding on their own item in an attempt to try and raise the final price.

    That sometimes happens, but ebay will slap your fanny if they catch you doing it. Also what happens far too often is that people fail to pay or simply tell the seller they don't want the item anymore. Sellers can fight it and get buyers barred from bidding, but it's often easier to just move on.
  • Martin_HMartin_H Posts: 4,051
    edited 2013-03-15 10:23
    Yeah I guess it was a snipe coupled with automatic bidding that did it.In any event I won the auction for a USB Board of Education. So I can upgrade my son's Boe-bot to USB so he won't have to deal with needing my USB to serial cable.
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2013-03-15 11:38
    If there is somethng on EBay that I want very badly I will place it in my watch list. With a fast Internet connection you can wait until about 7 seconds before the auction ends to hit "Confirm Bid". I make sure I put in the highest amount I am willing to pay for the item. I do not use Automatic bidding. There have been times that I set my alarm clock to get up at 4:00 in the morning just to get an item.
  • Martin_HMartin_H Posts: 4,051
    edited 2013-03-15 12:04
    His "Pain Factor" was higher than yours.

    "Pain Factor" is my personal highest bid I'm willing to pay. This is what I bid within the last 5 minutes.
    His may be higher than yours.

    Probably true. I couldn't see paying more than $60 for a CMU cam 1 without a warranty when a branch new CMU cam 4 is only $100.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-03-15 12:16
    NWCCTV wrote: »
    ... I do not use Automatic bidding. ... get up at 4:00 in the morning just to get an item.


    Just curious: why do you think that works better than automatic bidding?
  • Duane C. JohnsonDuane C. Johnson Posts: 955
    edited 2013-03-15 12:39
    It has no effect on snipers like me and the other snipers that have a predefined "Pain Factor" in mind.

    However, sniping does tend to lower the price against the "timid" biders that keep inching their bids up.
    They have no chance to keep raising the bid.

    If I'm lucky and there are no other snipers I get it at the lowest possible price, statistically speaking.

    Duane J
  • Martin_HMartin_H Posts: 4,051
    edited 2013-03-15 13:03
    The last one went for US $68.70 to the same guy who bought the other three:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/121078090670?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649&autorefresh=true

    Who is this masked man or woman with a desire for four CMU Cam 1's!
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2013-03-15 16:55
    All eBay proxy/automatic bidding takes place instantly. The only way to hold off a high bid until the last minute is to place your bid last minute. Being there for the end of the auction allows you to not turn the item into a bid war (unless someone else has already).
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-03-15 17:01
    xanadu wrote: »
    All eBay proxy/automatic bidding takes place instantly. The only way to hold off a high bid until the last minute is to place your bid last minute. Being there for the end of the auction allows you to not turn the item into a bid war (unless someone else has already).

    But aren't there automated sniping websites you can use?
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2013-03-15 17:35
    It depends if the last 20 seconds is worth it. If you're logged into eBay directly you can see the sniper bids around 30-20 seconds remaining. That gives you time to re-evaluate things if needed.
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2013-03-15 17:39
    Just curious: why do you think that works better than automatic bidding?
    I don't. I am just saying I do not use it.
    Who is this masked man or woman with a desire for four CMU Cam 1's!
    Just wait a week or two and I bet you will find them up for auction again. That's why they are anonymous!!!
    If you're logged into eBay directly you can see the sniper bids around 30-20 seconds remaining
    If you choose "Place Bid", yoy still have to hit "Confirm Bid". You can watch the clock tick down and when it gets to 7,6,5 then hit "Confirm Bid". If someone else is higher than your highest bid amount, then you did not want to pay that much for it any ways. That's why I always determine what the max amount I want to pay for the item is and submit that bid.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2013-03-16 01:35
    I've a good friend that makes a decent living buying and selling collectible postage stamps over the internet. He generally doesn't participate in bidding for anything until the last 5 to 10 minutes and doesn't bother evaluating anything that has more than a day to go to close.

    People that are really working EBay maximize their opportunities.
  • Christoph_HChristoph_H Posts: 31
    edited 2013-03-16 02:34
    Like NWCCTV I usually place my first and only bid during the last seconds of the auction. I work out in advance how much I'm willing to pay at most for the item and that's the amount I bid for. Placing a bid earlier only drives the price up.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-03-16 09:08
    I've a good friend that makes a decent living buying and selling collectible postage stamps over the internet. ...

    Once upon a time I bid on an entire page of old collectible stamps and I was very surprised that I won. I was even more surprised to find out I was the only bidder and basically won the stamps at their face value. Wow, you can't beat that. A week or so later, I received the page of stamps well packaged and in perfect condition. I'd gotten exactly what I had wanted. But to my amazement, what the seller had used for postage on the package was more of those same collectible stamps. Apparently the seller was so disgusted that his stamps had not sold well, he just used them for postage.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2013-03-16 09:54
    Well, I didn't really tell you what he buys and how he values what he buys... I just mentioned his EBay shopping and bidding habits.

    With stamps, you really have to know what you want and what you expect to do with it. Buying old collections is pretty much a shotgun approach.
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