Sony Drops Cell in PS4, moves to AMD 8-core x86 CPU and GPU on the same die
jmg
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"While Sony did not disclose the SoC supplier during the press event, the company's press release later revealed that PS4 will use a single-chip custom processor that includes an 8-core 64bit x86 "Jaguar" CPU built by AMD, with a Radeon GPU capable of 1.84 TFLOPS operation to process graphics."
Wow, a sign of the very high costs of chip development...... 8 cores plus Graphics, wonder what price they negotiated ?
Will this part need a fan ?
More specs:
Main Processor
Single-chip custom processor
CPU : x86-64 AMD Jaguar, 8 cores
GPU : 1.84 TFLOPS, AMD next-generation Radeon based graphics engine
Memory GDDR5 8GB
Hard Disk Drive Built-in
Optical Drive (read only) BD 6xCAV DVD 8xCAV
I/O Super-Speed USB (USB 3.0) 、AUX
Communication
Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T)
IEEE 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth® 2.1 (EDR)
AV output
HDMI
Analog-AV out
Digital Output (optical)
Wow, a sign of the very high costs of chip development...... 8 cores plus Graphics, wonder what price they negotiated ?
Will this part need a fan ?
More specs:
Main Processor
Single-chip custom processor
CPU : x86-64 AMD Jaguar, 8 cores
GPU : 1.84 TFLOPS, AMD next-generation Radeon based graphics engine
Memory GDDR5 8GB
Hard Disk Drive Built-in
Optical Drive (read only) BD 6xCAV DVD 8xCAV
I/O Super-Speed USB (USB 3.0) 、AUX
Communication
Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T)
IEEE 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth® 2.1 (EDR)
AV output
HDMI
Analog-AV out
Digital Output (optical)
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Now if they could sell us such a machine to put Linux on or otherwise do as we pleased we might start to forgive them for their former transgresions.
This is because they run the same gambit as all inkjet manufacturers;
Sell the platform below cost, then hike up the cost of 'consumables'.
If they let people run Linux on them there's a good chance that a lot of them will end up in 'computer farms' or similar, and will never be used to play costly games. That means a net loss on each of those machines...
I begin to wonder if the concept of consumer products is dying a slow death. I've never really invested in a game machine as a bad wrist makes paying computer games actually quite painful. On the other hand, chess and dominoes are painless and much more fun with real people. I suspect 'game theory' should include sociological components of a desire to win, an ability to sustain mental discipline when tired, and so on. Most people can learn quite a bit about winning in life from games other than computer based.
Seems Yellow Dog Linux wired together 2200 Playstation 3's for a supercomputer for the US Airforce.
[h=3]Yellow Dog Linux 7[/h] [h=4]What is Yellow Dog Linux?[/h]
With over ten years of development, Yellow Dog Linux is Fixstars' own original Linux distribution.
We have been offering Linux environments primarily for CPUs based on the POWER architecture such as Freescale PowerPC, STI Cell Broadband Engine, and IBM POWER. In recent news, Fixstars equipped the US Air Force with a supercomputer made out of 2200 interconnected PlayStation 3's. In this system, Yellow Dog Linux was used throughout.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_for_PlayStation_2
Yes they did allow Linux to run on early Playstations. BUT then the feature was removed from later models and disabled in the older ones if you updated the firmware. So anyone who put effort into making that a nice Linux machine was short changed. Thanks a bunch Sony. I guess the US Air Force has ways around that.
Then there was the issue of the root kits installed to Windows when you played audio CD's from Sony.
Maybe you should blame Yellow Dog Linux and the US Air Force for them removing it from the Playstation. SONY claimed it was removed for 'security' reasons. But they didn't exactly say whose security.
They may have built a supercomputer to create a radar umbrella to protect Japan from North Korean and other missile salvos.
I have 'other issues' as to why I won't buy Sony, but this isn't related. At least the PlayStation tried Linux, whereas the XBox just said absolutely not.
There was a time that Hewett-Packard was also very supportive of Linux with clear info about which BIOS were compatible, but those days are gone.
I stick with ASUS as it is one of the few manufacturers that seems to still support Linux as an alternative product and has a quality motherboard. If they go over to MS, I guess I'll have to buy a Lenov, made in Mainland China (and used to be IBM).
A long time ago I liked Sony. For a while, during the eighties, the best audio equipment I owned was a Walkman FM radio. I started playing EverQuest when it was new. When the game started to become popular Sony got involved and greed turned EverQuest into ExpansionQuest. I quit playing Everquest when $30 dollar expansions every six months became the norm. I have not purchased a single Sony product in over 10 years.
ill second this ,, Once you are known for corporate approved Root kitting you are alwas on my blacklist .
As a EE or a SW Eng you take a oath same as a Dr to do Good with what you have learned ......... I say Strip them of there Degrees ....
So much for ethics ...........
The issue was that the Security of the Games played were at risk ..... If you can boot linux on the thing you can do some serious HW and SW chipping . and that means you can play hacked games ............ Sony is Well known to hate mod chippers .........there was a Law case on it mid 2000s. heck Sony hates any one who dare raises a voice to there empire .....
POWER ( a subset called POWER PC ( used by apple for Years )) Is not that hard to get . I can for a price get a POWER 7 based Cluster blade farm .......... its just that the PS3 being SUBSIDIZED by the games WE play made them easy to get and cheap .....
Consumer Gear was cheap and the GOv was just going COTS and saving a buck . ..
for a Long Time people would buy a PS3 for just the blueray player ....... TIll it was more easy to get one as a standalone ..
Peter..
Remember the VHS/Beta war?
Sony lost it because they insisted on controlling what was released on Beta, and Pr0n was right out.
(Every Pr0n-studio therefore picked VHS, and the customers followed. The studios actually wanted to use Beta because of the superior picture quality... )
MiniDisk players. When they released the DATA-version of the MD-player, they also released MD-Data disks. And MD-players couldn't play music files stored on MD-Data.
(you could access MD-Music disks on a MD-player connected to your PC, but all you were allowed to do was to edit track names... )