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Building Stingray, really need other owners to tell me if this is wrong.

rwgast_logicdesignrwgast_logicdesign Posts: 1,464
edited 2013-02-16 00:39 in Robotics
I wanted a stingray with blue wheels, and was emailed by a parallax employee telling me they still had one in there ebay stock that was brand new, so I went ahead and ordered it. The sting ray I recived has some minor issues which lead me to believe it is not totally new. I have contacted parallax and hope they will help me out here, im just going to keep this one. But i started building it tonight and I was reading the PDF, I mounted the motor panels as shown in the document. I also followed the directions for installing the motors to the tee. Here is a pic

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Heres the deal the two motors arent mounted at the same angle. You can see the the one on the right is at a 90 degree angle from the one on the left. This is really no big deal but it makes adding things to the back shaft a bit harder. I have looked at various drawing and pics of the sting ray and none of them have the motor leads at diffrent angles. The motors seem to only fit one way in to the plate. Does anyone else have a sting ray like this? Also if you follow the PDF the motors spin in different directions, that is a given for any robot (becuase one is usually "upsidedown" from the other) but I would thing parallax would have you wire them to spin the same way. The reason im asking is becuase im wondering if some how my motors are somehow mounted wrong and just want to verify the motors spin in the opposite direction when wired according to the manual and tested with a battery.
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  • WBA ConsultingWBA Consulting Posts: 2,934
    edited 2013-02-14 23:06
    Mine are exactly like yours and they work perfectly. Not sure why that difference exists.
  • TtailspinTtailspin Posts: 1,326
    edited 2013-02-15 06:02
    Mine look like this...
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    I too wish they could be turned 90 degrees, cuz it does make it a little more difficult to add encoders and such.

    I think MattG came up with a way to take the gear head off the motor, so you could put the wires where you want them.
    Not sure it was a good idea or not, I did not try it.


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  • rwgast_logicdesignrwgast_logicdesign Posts: 1,464
    edited 2013-02-15 12:05
    Hey guys thanks a lot, as I said this in no real issue, I just needed to make sure all my pieces were correct.

    As far as it being a bit of a pain to build encoders to fit the back shaft, due to having to account for the wires in different places when you build the board there is a simple answer. Clip down the motor leads, clip the crimps off the wires, then solder them as flush as you can to the housing, these motors also need some filter caps installed on them so you should be soldering to them any ways might as well fix this issue while your at it :)
  • RobotWorkshopRobotWorkshop Posts: 2,307
    edited 2013-02-15 12:13
    If you go with the encoders that lynxmotion has for these motors the orientation of the motor leads really isn't an issue. They clear the wires just fine. I had no problem installing them on my robot base. With those installed the Stringray really makes a nice robot base.

    It looks like you have a custom battery pack for the robot. Instead of adding all the extra stuff on the edges as an insulator you may want to check with your local hobby shops. Many carry large shrink wrap that us used to make custom battery packs. A piece of heat shrink covering the pack can really help.
  • Matt GillilandMatt Gilliland Posts: 1,406
    edited 2013-02-15 12:26
    I think MattG came up with a way to take the gear head off the motor, so you could put the wires where you want them.
    Yes, it's quite simple really. You can take the gear head off and "clock" it to several positions such that the wire terminals are consistent. The motors come "randomly clocked" from the manufacturer, so a five minute re-clocking will fix the issue.
    -MattG
  • Matt GillilandMatt Gilliland Posts: 1,406
    edited 2013-02-15 12:35
    The sting ray I recived has some minor issues which lead me to believe it is not totally new
    Hey rwgast -
    What kind of issues? We don't like it when our customers have "issues".:smile:
    -MattG
  • rwgast_logicdesignrwgast_logicdesign Posts: 1,464
    edited 2013-02-15 13:41
    I posted a thread in General forums matt, Jim took care of me real well, I just somehow missed his email....

    Thanks for the tip about the motors matt, I thought about doing this but looking at the motors gear head and screw pattern I was not sure if that would work, now that I do I will do that when I take the motors out to install filter caps! While im in there do you recommend putting some white lithium on the gears, I know some manufactures do not use the best lubes.
  • rwgast_logicdesignrwgast_logicdesign Posts: 1,464
    edited 2013-02-15 22:12
    Im hoping ill figure this out before some one replies as im quite sure it will be a while, probably tommorow at the soonest, but I dont understand how to "reclock" the gear box or what that means. I thought it meant just removing the cover an twisting it to the right position but that obviously is not going to work. So next im going to dismantle the whole gear train and then remove the bottom plate under the gear box and try to turn that. If that does not work im plumb out of ideas :).

    Maybe someone knows Matts original post, or better yet can explain how to reclock.... I searched the forums via the search function, and the google site:forums.parallax.com trick, I cant find the original post anywhere, I tried reclocking, reclocking stingray motors, and just stingray.
  • rwgast_logicdesignrwgast_logicdesign Posts: 1,464
    edited 2013-02-15 22:37
    Welp Gull I feels like an idiot, just figured it out, and there is no need to remove the entire geartrain which I wanted to avoid doing. Even though its not to complicated to reassemble.

    For any of you who also think this is kind of a pain and want your motor terminals to line up here is how you reclock the gearbox. Remove top cover, leave all gears in place. Unscrew the two screws you see holding the bottom of the gear box on, then twist the bottom platform of the gearbox to where it needs to go.
  • rwgast_logicdesignrwgast_logicdesign Posts: 1,464
    edited 2013-02-16 00:39
    So i just re greased and reclocked the motors, i took a lot of pics while doing it, and I found a nice surprise about these motors in the process, i will post a little how to tomorrow when i get some time.
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