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Laser Printer Destructive Tear-Down

localrogerlocalroger Posts: 3,452
edited 2013-01-23 03:22 in General Discussion
OK I had a Brother HL-2140 laser printer go out, and after replacing it did what any self-respecting hackerish first edition Robot Builder's Bonanza owning sort of person would do and I took it apart.

Anyone else did this sort of thing lately?

I was left with a truly impressive collection of useless un-repurposable molded parts. The thing had exactly one proper switch, the on-off switch. Everything else -- and there was a lot of this, it being a fairly complex mechanical device -- was accomplished with custom bent spring metal often twisting around weird paths embedded in the plastic understructure. There was exactly one motor, in a very weird form factor with a ribbon connector. There were a couple of solenoids whose plungers mated to unusably weird plastic pieces. There were a couple of opto devices with interesting lenses that I think were used to detect paper presence. And I think the power supply may be salvageable, with +5 and +24 outputs (the latter what the motors and solenoids seem to be rated for) and what I'm fairly sure is a logic-level switched mains output through a mechanical relay to power the heater element.

On the one hand kind of thin pickings for a thing that had so much mechanical stuff going on inside, but on the other hand I guess that's how they were able to make a brazilion of them and sell me one for $100.

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  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-01-19 15:18
    In the movie Tucker (about the 1940's car maker, Preston Tucker), nerdy father and nerdy son get into a bitter argument, wherein at one point one of them picks up a telephone and smashes it on the desk. The argument suddenly stops and the two men stand silent, gawking in awe at the innards of the phone. I've always wondered what percentage of the audience ever understood what happened in that scene.

    tucker.jpg
  • Martin_HMartin_H Posts: 4,051
    edited 2013-01-19 16:05
    I'm a big fan of taking things apart and do it fairly often. You sometimes get useful parts, sometimes not. The last time I started a thread on this you had an impressive tale of dismantling a 1975 era platter style hard drive.

    http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php/136508-Taking-Things-Apart.
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2013-01-19 16:20
    I have torn apart MANY printers, laser, dot matrix and ink jet, I have also torn apart plotters. 80's and 90's era plotters seem to have the most "useable" parts with some really good sized stepper motors and other various parts. Older laser printers are next in line with quite a few sensors, depending on the brand. Dot matrix would be next in that there are useable belts attached to various plastic gears and motors. Ink jets, expecially newer ones have the least amount but if you get a chance to pick up older Epson ink jets they do have some good stepper motors and other useful parts. I have about a half dozen storage bins with drawers filled with parts from several printers, etc. I once tore apart a Laser Disc player (Anyone remember those?) It had a really cool laser in it but I have not yet attempted to fire it up.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2013-01-19 17:42
    Kurt Vonnegut's novel Player Piano is about a Luddite rebellion, wherein everything automated is destined for destruction, including a robotic orange-juice-making vending machine. In one of the final scenes, some of the rebels come across the destoryed orange juice machine and set about getting it working again -- just because they can and because the mechanism fascinates them.

    It's a disease. :)

    -Phil
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2013-01-20 05:01
    My last interesting tear down was a flat bed scanner I pulled off of a dumpster. Nice guide rails, motors and belts in there. That was some years ago ago and whatever it was was obviously some years older than that.

    Recently, as noted, if you tear down a product you find there is nothing in it.
  • nightwingnightwing Posts: 56
    edited 2013-01-20 09:10
    Been hording old multi/regular printers for steppers and liner slides. Have two 1970 early 80 era heavy printers with massive stepper motors. I mean massive!

    Some I can get going again and donate those to people that need a printer or scanner. Others will be for parts. Want to build at the minum a 3D router to a 3D printer ( either filament or dust). Have enough small embedded processor to do the job from very accident 6800 to Raspberry Pi's/ Propeller chips.

    The more modern the less generic parts and more custom designs and simplifications it has.
  • GadgetmanGadgetman Posts: 2,436
    edited 2013-01-21 01:30
    In my attic I have a large collection of old Canon BJ10sx inkjet printers...
    Not only do they have motors, but the printhead is moved with a worm-gear type mechanism, so there's other goodies, too.
    I also have a big crate of 5.25" and 3.5" diskette drives that are destined for recycling...
    (Mostly the head-positioning motor that's of interest)

    Anyone want an oC
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2013-01-21 06:49
    I think the most fun I had was completely disassembling a 1951 Chevy pickup truck and selling off the parts. I actually made more than I paid for it by selling it off bit by bit. It helped that someone had put an older 1940s read end as that was in high demand.

    It all started with the oil gauge going whacko and I presumed that I had spun a main bearing. Nope, when I finally got the oil pan off, the bearings were fine. I just had a gunked up oil pressure sensor.....

    I also had a lot of fun lift and moving big things.... whole houses, including a few log cabins.

    The biggest hole I ever helped dig was the Moscone Center expansion in San Francisco.
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2013-01-21 09:21
    Heater. wrote: »
    My last interesting tear down was a flat bed scanner I pulled off of a dumpster.

    The image of heater dumpster diving! :)
    truly impressive collection of useless un-repurposable molded parts

    I want to recycle the plastic into filament for printing. It would certain open up a lot of space in the museum section of the lab.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2013-01-21 10:33
    Braino,

    Correction, I should have said "skip", not quite the same as a dumpster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skip_(container)

    Luckily there are no such images:)
  • localrogerlocalroger Posts: 3,452
    edited 2013-01-21 13:28
    I want to recycle the plastic into filament for printing. It would certain open up a lot of space in the museum section of the lab.

    I can't find any recycling marks but it wouldn't surprise me if the plastic can be re-melted.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2013-01-23 03:22
    I've pondered setting up a heated 'goo pot' that would melt down whatever is tossed into it.

    But the problem is that one pot just won't solve the problem. You need a separate one for each variety of plastic and a specific individual approach to melting.

    Not all plastics are optimal for 3D printing. And a lot have toxic fumes if mishandled (vinyl is polyvinyl chloride, so you get hydrochloric acid as a gas. Others might even offer up cyanide gas).

    Of course the other alternative is to just convert it all to fuel, but it is the same thing again with fumes --- nasty, nasty stuff in many cases.

    I guess we should have an 'un-use-able parts ratio' created to index what you have when whatever turns to junk. It seems that there is this index has been moving further and further away from salvage by individuals and into recycle by experts.

    I did manage to salvage a bit of an HP inkjet printer, but I'd have to say I got about 3% of it into being useful for another project -- just the linear slide. Not even the motors have found another application as of yet.
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