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Build a Rube Goldberg at Expo

ercoerco Posts: 20,259
edited 2013-02-07 05:02 in General Discussion
Unsolicited Idea, just gauging interest level.

Parallax Expo will be here before you know it, just one day. You DID get your free ticket already, yes?

Anybody interested in building something (anything!) electromechanical to become one link in a Rube Goldberg (also Heath Robinson, heater!) type chain reaction exhibit? I used to make my students do this for their class project and it was always fun for me and terrifying for them, since 25% of their grade depended on it.

Simple idea. You make and bring a self-contained module that gets activated by a switch closure. It then operates (motors, sounds, servos, lights, marbles, cans, LEDs, anything you like) for ~10-60 seconds. When it stops, it closes a switch to trigger the next module. We chain these things together sequentially and one thing triggers the next, right down the line. Would make a great video. There's no shortage of videos like this on Youtube, such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H30zTv406Mo

Modules can be as simple or as complex as you want. Literally, some could be built in an hour or so, or some people could spend weeks on them. No matter how simple, the real "fun" is being part of this one-shot event, realizing that you don't want to be the weak link in the chain that stops the action. Don't be "that guy"...

It's likely that many people would use Stamps or Props in their modules, and that's great for Parallax. But if people want to use other processors, or no processors or no electronics, that's fine too. Motors, batteries, strings, gears, hacked toys, candle flames, they're all fair game.

Size? Wide open. When we did it in class, everyone used a 24" square plywood (!) base, with mechanical input/output on diagonal corners since they had to mechanically touch. But here, we can easily connect any number of various sized modules with wire. Your "module" could be a Scribbler following a zig zag line on the floor (but triggered by a switch closure and ending by closing a switch for the next guy).

Just a thought. It could be lots of fun or perhaps a major pain. We're all busy enough as-is, and I haven't even bounced this off Ken or Matt. It's only worth pursuing if we get a dozen or more people who commit to doing it pretty quick. If it doesn't happpen, then I'll just save this idea for Maker Faire... :)

Please reply if you're interested or have questions/comments.

Comments

  • Roy ElthamRoy Eltham Posts: 3,000
    edited 2013-01-16 09:57
    I like this idea a lot! I would participate. Could also be something we work on and "finalize" at the "hack day" Friday before the Expo that some of us (tymkrs, etc) are talking about doing/setting up. We're hoping to have space either at Parallax (haven't talked to them yet) or Staybridge (maybe Ken can help us get the conference room again) for the Friday afternoon/evening/night before the Expo and hang out, hack, show off, etc. People could work on last minute stuff to show/share at the Expo itself, or just hang out with all the cool kids (aka nerds).

    Roy
  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
    edited 2013-01-16 11:24
    Yes!

    Suppose that each person who was going to participate brought a small "secret" piece of what would become the final machine. (Something small enough to pack in airplane suitcase or carry-on without capturing too much attention from TSA.) Then we could get Parallax to seed a junk pile on their end with stuff would wind up on the freebie table the next day anyway.

    The trick would be to get all participants to get their small part of the machine to interact with everyone's parts. (Or at least the one before and after your sequence.)

    Rules: You must be able to activate on a NO switch, and your circuit must close an NO switch when finished.

    Jeff
  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2013-01-16 12:09
    I'll commit for a section.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2013-01-16 18:47
    Erco,

    'What a great idea! While the P2 and C cartels spin their so very serious webs of hearts and minds entrapment, we need to make sure that the PFFFT (Parallax Fun Factor and Frivolity Taskforce) remains strong!

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWWZ3-5O2aRpyYLrgVZN7mBo3o3TkzJ9rHiiUjjJlucDeaM5fS

    -Phil
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2013-01-16 19:19
    Now we're getting some traction! How many RG modules shall I sign you up for, PhiPi? :)
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2013-01-16 19:27
    I've had one in mind for a couple years now. It's just a matter of finding the time to build it.

    -P.
  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,401
    edited 2013-01-16 19:57
    I've had one in mind for a couple years now. It's just a matter of finding the time to build it.

    -P.

    Does this mean you're coming down here?

    Should I send over a tow service to jump-start that old Mercedes 200?
  • TtailspinTtailspin Posts: 1,326
    edited 2013-01-16 19:59
    erco wrote: »
    Unsolicited Idea, just gauging interest level.

    .... Motors, batteries, strings, gears, hacked toys, candle flames, ....
    You had me at flames...:thumb:

    Cept, 4 square feet is kinda small for a "good" explosion, so I'm gonna have to figur out something that can get some altitude...
    Uhmm. is this gonna be indoors or outside???

    No worries, if I can't come up with something, I can always just stand on the plywood and flip the switches by hand, I guess...


    -Tommy

    P.S. Phil, you can have some of my extra time, I'm not using it right now, cuz I am to busy...
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2013-01-16 20:20
    Cartels can have fun too........no, really.

    "Two Oilmen and a diamond broker walk into a bar with a Record producer and demand everyone buy them a drink before they leave."
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2013-01-16 20:42
    Ken Gracey wrote:
    Should I send over a tow service to jump-start that old Mercedes 200?

    Shhh! You're giving away the secret! (When the ball finally reaches the bottom, it completes the circuit to the starter solenoid.)

    -Phil
  • David BetzDavid Betz Posts: 14,516
    edited 2013-01-17 08:45
    Erco,

    'What a great idea! While the P2 and C cartels spin their so very serious webs of hearts and minds entrapment, we need to make sure that the PFFFT (Parallax Fun Factor and Frivolity Taskforce) remains strong!

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWWZ3-5O2aRpyYLrgVZN7mBo3o3TkzJ9rHiiUjjJlucDeaM5fS

    -Phil
    I'll commit to making a module using C running on a P2. :-)
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2013-01-17 11:01
    Fabulous! Then of course, we'll need a FORTH module from THOSE guys...

    Should we similarly strive to include an Arduino, AVR, PicAxe, etc to show how welcoming we are? Probably...
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2013-01-17 11:03
    Ken Gracey wrote: »
    Does this mean you're coming down here?

    Should I send over a tow service to jump-start that old Mercedes 200?

    Ken, may I interpret your low-key reply a tacit thumbs-up to the idea?

    If so, also send a flatbed for the Corvair! :)
  • EmilyKurzeEmilyKurze Posts: 127
    edited 2013-01-17 11:30
    erco wrote: »
    Ken, may I interpret your low-key reply a tacit thumbs-up to the idea?

    If so, also send a flatbed for the Corvair! :)

    Hi Guys!

    We're happy to hear your ideas for Expo! Please send them to mktg@parallax.com so the Expo team can best determine the logistics for the event. As you can imagine Ken is a very busy man and I'd like to relieve him from having to relay the info to the rest of the Parallax team.

    Thanks!

    Emily
  • Jen J.Jen J. Posts: 649
    edited 2013-01-17 11:39
    Yes. Please do!
  • Jen J.Jen J. Posts: 649
    edited 2013-02-05 15:18
    Now that Expo has been postoned, are you coming to the Official Propeller Conference on May 4th?

    Maybe the Rube Goldberg machine could be constructed on Friday night at Staybridge with a video presentation (or even a live demo) at the OPC on Saturday morning?
    Just a thought.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2013-02-06 10:46
    Jen J. wrote: »
    Now that Expo has been postoned,

    This is news to me... wha happen?
  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2013-02-06 10:57
  • Jen J.Jen J. Posts: 649
    edited 2013-02-06 10:58
    A lot happened! The end result being that an Expo-type event will most likely take place this Fall (details to be announced as they become available) and in it's place on May 4th will be the Official Propeller Conference.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2013-02-06 11:06
    Ak...! I'm on a short leash, I'll only get to make one pilgrimmage to Parallax this year. Assuming Expo really takes place in the fall, I'll have to put all my eggs & bots in that basket.

    BTW, when's the Official BS1 conference? You know how retro/recalcitrant I can be :)
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2013-02-06 11:32
    erco wrote: »
    BTW, when's the Official BS1 conference? You know how retro/recalcitrant I can be :)

    June 12, 1998 :lol:
  • Roy ElthamRoy Eltham Posts: 3,000
    edited 2013-02-06 13:05
    My understanding was that OPC was going to be more like what UPEW has been in the past. Is that accurate?

    The Expo from last year was very different from the UPEWs from the years before.
  • Jen J.Jen J. Posts: 649
    edited 2013-02-06 16:10
    Yes, Roy, you are correct.
    If you are a Propeller enthusiast, it shall be an event not to be missed.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2013-02-06 16:24
    Jen J. wrote:
    If you are a Propeller enthusiast, it shall be an event not to be missed.
    Now that's a rather tantalizing comment! 'Anything to do with P2, perhaps? :)

    -Phil
  • localrogerlocalroger Posts: 3,452
    edited 2013-02-06 16:33
    While the idea of the expo is certainly cool, I really enjoyed the UPEW for focusing on us alpha nerds and if I could break off for one Parallax event this year, it would be the OPC.
  • vanmunchvanmunch Posts: 568
    edited 2013-02-06 21:11
    Ha ha this is great and funny. I just signed up on Monday and didn't even relize the change. :)

    "Official Propeller Expo"! This is exciting! I hope there will be T-shirts that I can buy! :)
  • David BetzDavid Betz Posts: 14,516
    edited 2013-02-07 05:02
    David Betz wrote: »
    I'll commit to making a module using C running on a P2. :-)
    Ummmm... I'm afraid I won't be able to make a module after all. It turns out that OPC is on my anniversary this year and my wife isn't interested in spending that day at a Propeller event. Sorry! :-)
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