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AndroidAndroid Posts: 82
edited 2013-01-11 12:30 in General Discussion
I need a science fair project but I want it to be including programming and robots. Any ideas, Thanks!

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  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2013-01-10 12:14
    Too broad a question. What ideas do you have? You've been interested in simple musical things before. Are you still interested? What other interests do you have? The best science fair projects are usually based on some real interest of the student. Do you have a budget? What equipment do you already have?
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-01-10 14:36
    The Eastern Skunk Cabbage is one of the few plants on earth that is thermogenic. It has a body temperature like that of an animal and its metabolic rate has been compared to that of a small rodent. Even in the winter it can maintain a warm temperature and melt its way through ice and snow. Aspects of its metabolic biochemistry resemble that of an animal.

    Your question might be: what sort of things affect its temperature, etc. Stick an electronic thermometer in it and record its temperature vs. time of day, or vs. ambient temperature, insolation, wind speed, etc.

    My own question is: what planet did this freaky plant come from?




    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Skunk_Cabbage
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermogenic_plants
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2013-01-10 15:02
    You ain't just whistling Dixie, Electricaye! From wiki:

    Breaking or tearing a leaf produces a pungent but not harmful odor, the source of the plant's common name. The plant is not poisonous to the touch. The foul odor attracts its pollinators, scavenging flies, stoneflies, and bees. The odor in the leaves may also serve to discourage large animals from disturbing or damaging this plant which grows in soft wetland soils.

    Skunk cabbage is notable for its ability to generate temperatures of up to 15-35°C above air temperature by cyanide resistant cellular respiration in order to melt its way through frozen ground,[2] placing it among a small group of plants exhibiting thermogenesis. Even though it flowers while there is still snow and ice on the ground it is successfully pollinated by early insects that also emerge at this time. Some studies suggest that beyond allowing the plant to grow in icy soil, the heat it produces may help to spread its odor in the air.[2] Carrion-feeding insects that are attracted by the scent may be doubly encouraged to enter the spathe because it is warmer than the surrounding air, fueling pollination.[3]

    Eastern Skunk Cabbage has contractile roots which contract after growing into the earth. This pulls the stem of the plant deeper into the mud, so that the plant in effect grows downward, not upward. Each year, the plant grows deeper into the earth, so that older plants are practically impossible to dig up. They reproduce by hard, pea-sized seeds which fall in the mud and are carried away by animals or by floods.
  • Dave HeinDave Hein Posts: 6,347
    edited 2013-01-10 15:07
    But how would you incorporate a robot in this project? I suppose you could use a robotic snowmobile with a robotic arm that could travel from one skunk cabbage plant to another taking its temperature.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-01-10 16:35
    Dave Hein wrote: »
    But how would you incorporate a robot in this project? I suppose you could use a robotic snowmobile with a robotic arm that could travel from one skunk cabbage plant to another taking its temperature.

    How about using a thermopile and see if you can power a robot off of one? Cap that alien monster with metal and wires and I betcha it'll feel right at home, wherever that once was...
  • localrogerlocalroger Posts: 3,452
    edited 2013-01-10 16:45
    What grade level are you at? I won prizes at the ISEF in 1981 and I suggested an idea to my boss for his daughter that got her a regional first prize, but it's a little different from middle to high school.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2013-01-10 17:12
    How about using a thermopile and see if you can power a robot off of one? Cap that alien monster with metal and wires and I betcha it'll feel right at home, wherever that once was...

    XLNT. Thermopile and/or sterling cycle engine. And throw in a 2-potato clock for plant-powered posterity and punctuality.

    It's almost like we're all secret members of the Skunk Cabbage Guild, railroading poor Android down our well-worn (and well-warmed) path... :)

    "Take this pod home and sleep on it. You'll feel better in the morning..."
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-01-10 17:23
    erco wrote: »
    ...

    It's almost like we're all secret members of the Skunk Cabbage Guild, railroading poor Android down our well...

    Hush up, erco. He'll start to wonder why we never use our real pics for avatars.
  • AndroidAndroid Posts: 82
    edited 2013-01-11 11:22
    Hi everyone! Thank you so much for posting. I am using a propeller boe and a boe bot. I do love music but am only in middle school.
    -Android
  • AndroidAndroid Posts: 82
    edited 2013-01-11 11:44
    Found a project where i test a robotic hand with straws and test it with different strings wires etc.
    -Android
    P.S.
    Thanks for your help
  • Matt GillilandMatt Gilliland Posts: 1,406
    edited 2013-01-11 12:03
    Hey Android-
    Two things:
    1) Please keep us posted on how your project is going, and what it looks like (with pics if possible) :-)
    and
    2) Middle school? You're way ahead of the curve - excellent!

    -MattG
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2013-01-11 12:17
    Android wrote: »
    Found a project where i test a robotic hand with straws and test it with different strings wires etc.
    ...

    Gordon McComb, the author of Robot Builder's Bonanza frequents this forum, and in Chapter 25 of the 4th edition of his book, he discusses the use of "Robot Movement with Shape Memory Alloy." Shape memory alloy is also known as "muscle wire." As topics go, it doesn't hold a candle to the Eastern Skunk Cabbage, but it still sounds futuristic/cool to me. He describes how to control these materials using chips and whatnot. Maybe give that a thought?

    http://forums.parallax.com/member.php/63697-GordonMcComb

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape_memory_alloy

    http://www.amazon.com/Robot-Builders-Bonanza-Gordon-McComb/dp/0071750363/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1357935324&sr=1-1&keywords=robot+builder%27s+bonanza
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2013-01-11 12:22
    Ideas:

    Line following and how it works
    Maze solving and how it works

    Simpler?

    Light seeking (or dark seeking)
    response to bumpers/whiskers
  • HumanoidoHumanoido Posts: 5,770
    edited 2013-01-11 12:30
    A simple XY vision system could coordinate the position of a robot hand for manufacturing and home applications.
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