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Grading question- you guys are smart, figure you might know

dirtrider444dirtrider444 Posts: 33
edited 2013-01-04 07:40 in General Discussion
Im a college student applying for a internship program and it says I must maintain on overall "B" average. I dont have that right now, but i will at the end of spring semester. Does the "overall" mean that since I dont right now it will be a problem? Or just once im in the program it cant be lower than a "B"? Its hard to google that awnser so Im asking you guys.

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  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2013-01-02 22:21
    I would email the company, and ask if it's ok to apply. If they don't reply I would apply anyway, being sure to mention in the application comments and via an email your situation, and why they should still consider you. It's helpful if you either a) have a good reason (illness, etc.) or b) have an outstanding example of why you would be valuable despite your lower GPA.

    Still, I wouldn't set my hopes too high.
  • frank freedmanfrank freedman Posts: 1,983
    edited 2013-01-02 22:45
    Is this the correct title or performance question. Grading calls into question the grader and outside factors. Performance calls into question, well, performance.

    What do you have to offer that the person meeting spec doesn't? Why the lower GPA? Acts of ommission, commission, god/health? I have worked with some interns and students, in some cases the GPA was a reasonable indicator when considered with the package, sometimes not. Does what you have to offer offset the performance issues?

    FF
    Im a college student applying for a internship program and it says I must maintain on overall "B" average. I dont have that right now, but i will at the end of spring semester. Does the "overall" mean that since I dont right now it will be a problem? Or just once im in the program it cant be lower than a "B"? Its hard to google that awnser so Im asking you guys.
  • dirtrider444dirtrider444 Posts: 33
    edited 2013-01-02 23:01
    I have alot to offer. Its because I was traveling alot and fresh outta high school. Im gonna speak to my school to get what I can dropped off the transcript. Im not sure to either not apply at all and wait till next year so i can maintain a "clean looking education" or to apply now and hope for the best. its offered every year. Guessing to call anonymously and ask
  • kwinnkwinn Posts: 8,697
    edited 2013-01-02 23:31
    I hope you will not take this the wrong way, however after reading your posts my first suggestion would be to work on your spelling, language, and grammar skills. If you speak and write like your post you will not make the kind of impression you want. With spelling and grammar checkers in the word processors there really is no excuse for such poor use of language unless it is not your native tongue.
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2013-01-03 08:15
    Im a college student applying for a internship program and it says I must maintain on overall "B" average. I dont have that right now, but i will at the end of spring semester. Does the "overall" mean that since I dont right now it will be a problem? Or just once im in the program it cant be lower than a "B"? Its hard to google that awnser so Im asking you guys.

    Just apply if you want the position. If they want you, they will take you, if they find someone with an A average, they will that candidate first anyway. They are just looking at the simplest evaluation, its just an internship and (we hope) they aren't putting you in charge of reactor safety at Fukushima. You have to apply 100 times to get selected for 1 job; its really more just a matter of statistics rather less than qualifications or ability (based on thirty years of observation).

    And take kwinn's post with a grain of salt, he's from Canada and they don't speak American up there. And apparently they don't cut slack based on experience. :)
  • kwinnkwinn Posts: 8,697
    edited 2013-01-03 19:59
    ...............

    And take kwinn's post with a grain of salt, he's from Canada and they don't speak American up there. And apparently they don't cut slack based on experience. :)

    That may be so, although I do not really see much difference in language or language skills between college students here and the US. The point I was trying to make was that your written resume and spoken words over the phone or in an interview will influence how a prospective employer assesses you.
    This is particularly true of a resume or cover letter. With the spell checker and the grammar tools available in most word processors along with the time available to polish it there is no reason for anyone to present a document filled with spelling errors and poor grammar. With most postings resulting in hundreds of applicants a poor resume will most likely end up in file 13. If you are very lucky and meet all the job criteria, it may end up in the "maybe, if there is no one better qualified" pile.
  • frank freedmanfrank freedman Posts: 1,983
    edited 2013-01-03 20:19
    Look at it like this, would you buy an expensive property in a well landscaped, well maintained neighborhood, or one with a bunch of junky lots with rusting cars on cinder block in the front yard. What image / value do you present to a prospective employer/mentor? It's all in the presentation.

    FF
  • eiplannereiplanner Posts: 112
    edited 2013-01-03 21:53
    To specifically answer your question dirtrider, overall means overall. It's whatever your transcript shows as your overall GPA. If it's not 3.0 or higher on a 4.0 scale, then it's not up to the standards they are requesting.

    Everything is "who you know". Even the most qualified of applicants will take a back seat to the good guy/gal that shows real enthusiasm. If your grades aren't quite up to par and you don't already have an "in" with this company, I would hold off until the next cycle rather than blindly submitting a substandard application. In the mean time, I would get to know their program, the administrators, the professionals, and also the persons selected for the internships. Get yourself known for your interest in the work and your drive to become a part of it. Hang around, volunteer, or help out in any way you possibly can. Set appointments or meetings with those in decision making positions. Express your current situation and where you are seeking to go and ask for their advice and any form of support they can offer. Find out all you can from previous interns; how they got selected, what course they took, who they would recommend you speak with, can they introduce you to those with influence.

    I was told over the phone by a state licensing agency that my application had to be submitted by mail and that the process would take a minimum of three weeks to complete. Before I got off the phone I obtained the name of the person responsible for approving the applications. I drove to her office, asked for her by name, told her my need for getting my license, and said with a big smile "I wasn't sure if you liked cookies or chocolate better, so I got both" while handing her a box of chocolate covered cherries and a pack of Oreos. I walked out in less than an hour with my license. Allowed me to immediately accept and sign my first contract that put me into business for myself 15 years ago.

    Where there is a will there is a way. It's up to you to find it.
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2013-01-04 06:22
    kwinn wrote: »
    The point I was trying to make was that your written resume and spoken words over the phone or in an interview will influence how a prospective employer assesses you.... With the spell checker and the grammar tools available in most word processors along with the time available to polish it there is no reason for anyone to present a document filled with spelling errors and poor grammar. ...
    Look at it like this, would you buy an expensive property ...

    Guys, RELAX! Its a post on a forum, not a job application for chief brain surgeon at Mayo Clinic. Have fun! type fast, and blow off the spell checker if you want! Who gonna care?
  • FranklinFranklin Posts: 4,747
    edited 2013-01-04 07:40
    The answer will depend on what the college means by that statement and only they can answer that question. Ask them.
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