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RaspPi deal?

NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
edited 2012-11-24 09:35 in General Discussion

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  • rwgast_logicdesignrwgast_logicdesign Posts: 1,464
    edited 2012-11-14 12:03
    thats about the msrp there 45 @ element14 errr maybe 35 is msrp
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2012-11-14 12:04
    Not too sure about that case........ It all depends on how many wall warts you already have.
    I ordered a Cubieboard with a 'case' (two sheets of laser cut Lexan to sandwich it between) and with fast shipping for $79USD. But you can get one without the 'case and slow shipping for $59USD.

    Sure it is bigger than the Raspberry PI, but twice the RAM, a SATA interface, IR sensor built in for remote control, and a lot more GPIO.

    Of course, if you are in love with credit card sized computers and the lowest possible price - the Raspberry Pi cannot be beat. You will have to buy a USB hub with independent power for it two work with most keyboards and USB addons.

    Oh, and it is all a charity...........
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2012-11-14 12:14
    I have a RaspPi (256K) and just got the bare PCB. The SD card isn't a big deal (you may want larger very soon), the case isn't a show stopper, but the power supply is something I'll purchase when I get my 512k version. It does want 5V and it is a USB micro-B connector. I'm using a android phone cord on a powered USB hub but it will want to go to places USB doesn't exist in it's next life, so the 5v 1a wall wart with proper connecter is a good thing.

    I'd go with teh Pi, the wall wart and maybe the pi plate or the prototyping kit....and an USB wifi adapter. I think I like the Adafruit clear aacrylic case better, too. That will be my choice.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2012-11-14 13:52
    Do I REALLY need one to see what all the fuss is about?

    How come the long-promised $25 pi is $35 everywhere? These days, people get crucified for being 10% over cost; this one is 40% over!

    http://www.gizmag.com/raspberry-pi-personal-computer-launch/20944/
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2012-11-14 14:07
    erco wrote: »
    Do I REALLY need one to see what all the fuss is about?

    How come the long-promised $25 pi is $35 everywhere? These days, people get crucified for being 10% over cost; this one is 40% over!

    http://www.gizmag.com/raspberry-pi-personal-computer-launch/20944/

    the $35 rpi has ethernet, an extra part. the $25 is the non-ethernet, appearantly everybody perfers the next step up. We won't be using the $25 unit unit we work out a very cheap ($2 or less) wireless option
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2012-11-14 14:07
    Erco,
    How come the long-promised $25 pi is $35 everywhere?

    I do see your point. Remember that when they started out there was no such thing as even a $35 computer like that. Since then all the world and his dog has jumped on the idea. That's good old capitalism for you. So they did good in bringing prices down. And you know what? They don't mind. They consider it a job well done.
  • dgatelydgately Posts: 1,633
    edited 2012-11-14 14:27
    erco wrote: »
    Do I REALLY need one to see what all the fuss is about?

    How come the long-promised $25 pi is $35 everywhere? These days, people get crucified for being 10% over cost; this one is 40% over!

    http://www.gizmag.com/raspberry-pi-personal-computer-launch/20944/

    The idea was to put out a version with Ethernet for developer types and tech-savvy folk to jump-start the process of development environments, hardware and support for app development (protocol libs, etc...). The $25 version has not yet seen the light of day other than the prototypes. When/if the $25 version arrives as a product, non-developer types, student users and those just needing an inexpensive device will have a board at a low price.

    The $35 version is NOT the promised board...

    dgately
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2012-11-14 15:05
    So, Has anyone used one and if so, is it powerful enough to load and display an HTML page from an IP camera?
  • dgatelydgately Posts: 1,633
    edited 2012-11-14 15:24
    NWCCTV wrote: »
    So, Has anyone used one and if so, is it powerful enough to load and display an HTML page from an IP camera?

    Other than speed and memory size, you can do "just about" anything that can be done on a Linux-based CPU, with the added benefit of General Purpose I/O, I2C, SPI, etc support. Many are being used to render websites, act as servers, digital video devices and much more. Right now, I have one displaying its internal CPU temperature to an 4X40 LCD. And, can run propgcc on it to program my Prop boards.

    dgately
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2012-11-14 15:28
    Basically, all I want it to be able to do is connect to a 7" monitor, connect CAT 5 cable to RaspPi and IP camera. Enter IP camera address and have the live video feed displayed on the monitor. If it can do that then I will order one.
  • dgatelydgately Posts: 1,633
    edited 2012-11-14 15:55
    NWCCTV wrote: »
    Basically, all I want it to be able to do is connect to a 7" monitor, connect CAT 5 cable to RaspPi and IP camera. Enter IP camera address and have the live video feed displayed on the monitor. If it can do that then I will order one.

    Does the IP camera in question require a router for normal operation with networked PCs? I assume that the RaspberryPi would require the same configuration, with the RaspberryPi and the IP camera connected to the same network via a router/switch (access point). Unless, the RaspberryPi can work as a router or access point. That would be a great question for the RaspberryPi or Debian Linux forums...

    http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/

    http://forums.debian.net

    dgately
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2012-11-14 16:12
    No, IP cameras come stock with a default IP address. I would only ned to be able to change the RaspPi IP to be in the same range/subnet of any given camera.
  • RDL2004RDL2004 Posts: 2,554
    edited 2012-11-14 17:35
    Don't know about the case, I'd have to research one of those carefully. I got a 16 GB Transcend SD card (Class 10) from Newegg for like $12 with free shipping and a 5 v 800 mA cell phone charger from Walmart for $9 (doesn't even get warm running the RaspPi with USB keyboard and mouse attached). When buying online watch out for places that have to charge sales tax on out of state purchases and watch out for inflated shipping charges.
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2012-11-14 19:10
    NWCCTV wrote: »
    So, Has anyone used one and if so, is it powerful enough to load and display an HTML page from an IP camera?

    google is your friend here, there are many.

    out of 400,000 unit, at least a couple apps should interesting
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    edited 2012-11-15 17:29
    I received my Pi a couple of months ago. Only had an hour or so to spare so I connected my usb keyboard and a 4" car reversing lcd (eBay $26) and it worked. The display was cramped iirc.

    I have an MK802 II here ready to try. Bought mine a couple of months ago on eBay for $51 but you can snatch one cheaper. Better than a Pi IMHO because 1GHz (can clock to 1.5GHz I think) has 1GB DDR2 ram and WiFi in a dongle case requiring 5V. Runs *nix and Android ICS. Has HDMI. My preference is WiFi instead of ethernet, so this is a steal.
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2012-11-15 17:57
    Ethernet is a MUST for the planned use.
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2012-11-16 05:04
    For $35 bucks just order one already!

    400,000 people say they are worth it. You can either trust the data or read the data sheets and do the analysis. You should do both, but for $35 its probably reasonable to just buy it already.
  • hinvhinv Posts: 1,255
    edited 2012-11-21 20:16
    Well, to me, it's not so much that the hardware itself is worth it, it is, but the mk802+ seems to be a better deal, but it is the fact that there are SO many people tinkering with it, there are lots of things for my children(and myself) to do with it. It's got the critical mass.

    Thanks,
    Doug
  • TubularTubular Posts: 4,706
    edited 2012-11-21 20:30
    NWCCTV wrote: »
    Ethernet is a MUST for the planned use.

    Which IP camera exactly? Canon? Axis? BrickCom? Edimax?

    It'll depend a bit on how they send the images across (how compressed they are) as well as how the web viewer is constructed. You could end up with layers of browser plugins which might slow it all down.

    But I have seen people easily watching full screen movies, and running remote apps and it seems pretty snappy. I think it will come down to how they bind the software together...
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2012-11-22 03:44
    Tubular wrote: »
    Which IP camera exactly? Canon? Axis? BrickCom? Edimax?

    Any and all, pretty much, depending on what the client purchases. Most IP cameras today are running H.264 compression. Once the IP address is set the device I need just needs to bring it up on a web page.
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2012-11-23 15:37
    OK. So we drew names for our annual Christmas gift giving. I decided what the heck, since there is really not much I "need" I told whomever drew my name that I would like one of these. At least if it does not do what I need it to I will not be out anything!!! Also, I will have a new toy to hack on Christmas day. It seems I always end up helping everyone else set up their wireless devices and electronic what nots so now it will be my turn!!! Any recommendations for add ons?
  • nightwingnightwing Posts: 56
    edited 2012-11-23 15:44
    Looks like there camera is coming....

    http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2555
  • Ray0665Ray0665 Posts: 231
    edited 2012-11-24 09:35
    Currently have 3 Pi and have built several servers. NAS, LAMP, web cam, weather station, X10 all had standard aps from the debian depositary. My image of choice is the latest raspbean on a 4gb sd card. I also experimented with the multimedia image which worked but i was unhappy with the setup. The lamp server is wireless the others are ethernet.
    Power dongles can be had for 5$ and the tenda wireless usb dongle for 10$. I mostly access the devices via ssh.
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