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Windows 8 (Ate)!!!

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  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2012-11-10 11:04
    Ray,

    No one has answered the OP's question yet. All have learned so far is that Win 8 installs easily and apparently runs as well as Win 7.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2012-11-10 12:14
    Wasn't that the question? :)
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2012-11-10 13:16
    Maybe. But I'd expect answers to include:
    a) Examples of things that don't work in Win 8.
    b) Examples of things that work but need working on/work arounds/upgrading to do so.
    c) Examples of things that work better.
    d) Examples of things you can now do that you could not do before.

    I've had a sniff around the net for such examples without finding anything striking yet.
  • potatoheadpotatohead Posts: 10,261
    edited 2012-11-10 23:55
    I'm stuck on, "why?"

    Some people are reporting ADS in the bundled applications. Few to nobody is reporting things don't work, meaning they carried over all the great Windows 7 work.

    There is an App Store. Not sure I care about that right now.

    There are lots of reports on the changed user interaction. I don't see that all as a negative, given one invests the time to fully understand and exploit the new UI dynamics. I will at some point, but not now. No value add to me at the moment.

    There are reports of applications running full screen, more limited window management. If true, this is a real negative for users who employ lots of windows.

    IMHO, too early. The same was true of Windows 7 for a time. I'm watching for hardware lock in, as in "won't run Linux easily" or "works properly with win 8" kinds of things.

    I may run the ARM version. That's a new thing.

    In my niche, which is mainly mechanical engineering / product design, nobody will jump on this for a considerable time. Major applications likely won't see OS / GFX certification for a year or more. Until that happens, it's unsupported = useless at present = toy for personal / geek / home use.

    In my niche, the last of the XP users are just now moving to 7, and that's due to vendor end of life for XP issues, both Microsoft and application developers.

    For groups that also have electronics design, they tend to be about as conservative, and will often run Linux. Some engineers will use Mac right now, with some Windows virtual machine, and those are XP / 7 right now too. Not many of those around, but there are a few.

    From an IT perspective, I would totally be in the explore it, test it mode to get a handle on the overall dynamics. That's why I'll run a Win 8 system sometime middle next year. It will be time then, because the early adopters will be looking much harder at it. The balance is time and the groups you work with, IMHO.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2012-11-11 00:19
    Well, both Apple and MS seemed to have migrated away from the halcyon days of big major application additions to put their hopes in an APS STORE that will drive popularity and revenue.

    Meanwhile in Taiwan, studies have been published that claim that 60% of iPhone/iPad user load less that 20 Aps. That really doesn't say much, it depends on how costly and successful the Aps are or how specific to the OS. I have a Palm Zire72 with only a few applications installed, but two in particular I couldn't live without and they are rather expensive. These days, both are available on the iPhone/iPad - but I am not going to migrate to anything until the Palm Zire72 gives up the ghost.
  • ArronArron Posts: 1
    edited 2012-12-05 01:46
    It looks like Windows 8 will give us a better choice of portable hardware to use in the field when working with the propeller and other uC's.
    What I would really like is a decent tablet that I can use to update firmware in the field, rather than having to use a notebook.
    As long as the propeller software works on Windows8, it will save me time and hassle.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2013-01-03 10:19
    Love it or hate it, Win8 price jumps from $40 to $199 on Feb 1: http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/12814438-windows-8-upgrades-now-available-and-the-price-will-increase-285-in-february

    I'm sure that a lot of Windoze haterz will download the $40 version and just never admit it. :)

    The more they deny it, the surer I am.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2013-01-03 10:24
    erco wrote: »
    Love it or hate it, Win8 price jumps from $40 to $199 on Feb 1.

    I'm sure that a lot of Windoze haterz will download the $40 version and just never admit it. :)

    The more they deny it, the surer I am.

    Jan 30th, I'll probably investigate how well it runs under parallels on my Mac. Right now Win 7 is fine but time changes all things!!
  • Roy ElthamRoy Eltham Posts: 3,000
    edited 2013-01-03 10:50
    Windows 9 will be out later this year. ;)
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2013-01-03 10:52
    Roy Eltham wrote: »
    Windows 9 will be out later this year. ;)

    Funny name for a Service Pack!!
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2013-01-03 11:39
    erco,

    I have watched that video a few times now. I can't work out if it's promoting Internet Explorer or slagging it off. Is it satire, parody? What is it? Who made it? Are they trying to sell me something or advise that I don't buy it?

    As for Windows 8, I have yet to hear anyone give me one good reason why I would want it, for 40 dollars or even for free. It's not like I haven't asked around here a few times.
  • icepuckicepuck Posts: 466
    edited 2013-01-03 12:30
    Don't take the following as a windows vs linux bashing.....this is my expirance with setting up a dual boot computer. I'm sure there other people out there wanting to the same.

    I have an old p3 dell I set up dual boot with win8 preview and ubuntu, other than being slow that setup works just fine. The win8 installer created two partitions just as the win7 installer did. My old hp scanner is the only hardware so far that win8 doesn't like.

    About a month ago I got a new dell inspiron corei3 with win8 home, so I tried to do the same dual boot as I did with the old dell.

    The first problem I ran into was a number of oem partitions that made repartitioning a pain.
    The second is dells backup and recovery software. The recovery disc I made would not reinstall
    win8 in any partition smaller than for what it was intended for, it wouldn't even work with a larger hdd. All it would do was recreate all the oem partitions that it came with, and wipe out ubuntu.

    What little I have used win8 parallax software behaves just like it was running in win7.
    I haven't tried the serial terminal yet.

    I just got the win8 recovery disc and driver disc dell sent me today. I'm hoping it installs like how the win8 preview did.

    I'm surprised dell fedex overnight the discs, no charge.
    -dan
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2013-01-03 13:30
  • RDL2004RDL2004 Posts: 2,554
    edited 2013-01-03 14:16
    Since Windows 8 has been such a mess, I guess they needed to rush out a patch "Service Pack" as soon as possible. Some marketing person probably came up with the idea to call it Windows 9.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2013-01-03 15:18
    Achtung! Don't you mean Vindows, NEIN! :)
  • RDL2004RDL2004 Posts: 2,554
    edited 2013-01-03 15:24
    Since Windows 8 no longer actually supports multiple windows on the desktop, it has been pointed out that it should be renamed Microsoft Window.
  • Peter KG6LSEPeter KG6LSE Posts: 1,383
    edited 2013-01-03 15:43
    what I fail to grasp is the one Strong point of MS any thing is the legacy suppoort of programs for darn near decades has been just tossed away .
    Yet the whole Idea of doing a drastic change to a UI that Ill admit was ubiquitous for years . Has now become a UI nightmare for Older users .
    Its Like MS is just thumbing there nose at the Guy in the suit and Tie with TPS reports , the biz man that wants the same day in and day out and does not want to Re learn EXCEL to do a spread sheet ..
    Not that apple is much if any better with its Mac app store and its recent quirks ..


    And dont get me started on windows RT
    MS pulled a apple and HW locked there OS and HW . its not easy to Wipe it and install ARM Linux . what a Rude move .
    Lets play the role of a normal consumer .;""" Oh Its Windows I can run my Old WIN 2k Software . NOT '''
    totally different Arch .. Heck I doubt the consumer knows what arm stands for . ( acorn risc machine )
    IOS is Obviously not OSX looking .. no confusion there ! .
    Yet RT and normal Look the same on the outside .


    I wonder how many RT tablets will be returned on this issue .,
    Now Ill say the UI does well as a tablet !!!!!!!! I was impressed ! ..
    But it dos not work well for a normal computer from what I experienced. .
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2013-01-03 16:02
    And dont get me started on windows RT

    But Peter... Start Me Up! (Microsoft Corporation used that song in the Windows 95 marketing campaign)

    While Windows RT lacks certain features and compatibility in comparison to Windows 8 (which runs only on devices with Intel-compatible processors), Microsoft aimed for RT devices to take advantage of the ARM platform's power efficiency, allowing for longer battery life.
  • Peter KG6LSEPeter KG6LSE Posts: 1,383
    edited 2013-01-03 16:23
    Oh I do agree ARM is a far better chip for a tablet . Iam just worrried mom and pop are not going to be bright enough to see the diff.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2013-01-14 21:26
    Only two weeks of $40 Win8 left ! :)
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