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Mon-Apple-y

ercoerco Posts: 20,259
edited 2012-09-24 17:25 in General Discussion
That's "monopoly" spelled through iPhone's spell-checker.

Looks like the iPhone 5 needs a proprietary charging cable. Thus Apple dashes the hopes of all open-source well-wishers!

http://gizmodo.com/5945889/some-third+party-adapters-might-not-work-with-your-new-iphone

Heck, if Ken Gracey was in charge, they'd give two free cables to anyone who asked.

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  • W9GFOW9GFO Posts: 4,010
    edited 2012-09-24 15:29
    erco wrote: »
    Heck, if Ken Gracey was in charge, they'd give two free cables to anyone who asked.

    But then they probably wouldn't be worth two thirds of a trillion dollars.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2012-09-24 16:09
    Are you referring to publically traded market value, or true book value? Stock prices go up and down very quickly.

    Frankly, it is difficult to get anything generic in electronics any more. I miss the days when batteries were not encased in plastic with special boards for smart charging and so on. Or in the case of Apple where there is no simple way to replace one.

    Customers have been herded like sheep to slaughter.
  • Peter KG6LSEPeter KG6LSE Posts: 1,383
    edited 2012-09-24 17:25
    I Like the new dock ..... Its Idiot proof.
    try that with Micro USB...

    the Old dock was not needed .. 6 pins alone were for firewire .so it had its days numbered from 2002 onward

    Flip side
    Micro USB is NOT universal !

    here is why .... Current ! some need 1 amp some need 3 .. Jeez to bad the EU and there uotopic views on chargers did not take in to account the way some pesky ,manufactures use the Juice from USB .....

    some cheap Bricks Dont follow USB spec on how to sig the power in to a phone . some phones Draw so much the brick senses a short and the SMPS goes in to fault mode .."USB IF" needs to enforce the standard better .....Heck the NEC is better enforced at the local level .

    MO make USB A the standard .EG standard PC port ... BAN Bricks with attached cables .. now let the manufactures make the dongle . and have all plug in to USB

    My mom has a Iphone , I have a palm centro we use the same charger just not the same cable ....... you reduce waste where the silly EU was so creeped out about trash . the Brick ...


    Iam getting a palm WEBOS phone in a few weeks .. a Pre 3 ! or a pre2 .. they palm did it right . touchstone baby! .
    that and Web Sync .... wear and tear . meh not a issue ..


    Peter

    EDIT as for the chip ...... Just cause its Metal does not mean its fancy ,... does not the 3 aixs [parallax chip have a can on it?! MEMS is famous of this ............. how about we make a splitter like a 232 break out box and a logic Probe or acope and SEE what the pins do ..... I recon its a FET key on the right pins for charging . BUT hey that Fet needs to get a Seg some how so that can might be a SPI bus in n 2 way fet ... EG top or bottom pins for V+ sooo with SPI I2C EG DATA . there might be some form of closed ness...... EG 0X1101000 = top ....

    Phone sends V to the chip .. Boots it so to say > Chip says Iam a charger ( set Phone in to charge mode ) and I am Top or bottom . Phone OKes that data .. > sends data on that pin to the Chip to charge via . A or B and Vollla you have the need for a Micon .

    at any point a serial code can be a part of it .....

    the best way is to snff the pins of lets say 4 phones and see if the 1s and 0s are the same .. If so then Its a good guess that its JUst a handshake ..

    EDIT again.. I reckon a thi-ish etchched PCB would make a easy ! Plug to test this out .

    any one way to try!
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