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Has anyone had a chance to really use an ASUS Transformer Infinity

frank freedmanfrank freedman Posts: 1,983
edited 2012-09-02 16:56 in General Discussion
Subject says it all. Currently on playbook, love it, but.......
Some apps lacking, no USB yet, would be nice to have USB to serial for prop etc and would make a heck of good service terminal. As it is, our imaging dept is managed by Trimedx and with two minor exceptions, I can nearly clear all notifications and documentation from the playbook.

I would like to know I can do at least as much before pulling the trigger on the top end next Feb or so. So has anyone put this or any ASUS Transformer through the works.

Thx,

Frank

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  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2012-08-29 23:13
    Sorry, I have just appreciated it from afar. I am a longtime fan of Asus for good quality and the Transformer has offered the addition of a keyboard to the iPad-like form factor. It also seems that it has added battery when the keyboard is plugged in. Overall, I really like it best amongst all the choices Android might offer.

    But the lack of a USB outlet and the dependency on Apps have forced me to ignore Android. I gave up on paying the MS tariffs and have been living happily in Linux-land, where I can explore computing without constant demands to buy something. I am still using a netbook and likely to continue.

    I see in todays newpaper in Taiwan that Asus is very optimistic about its future. It even feels it will overtake Samsung as Android's foremost platform provider with a 15% growth in revenue. So it is not likely to be a poor choice if you are willing to accept Android. I just haven't gotten to the point that I want another OS that tells me what I must do and how I must do it.
  • TorTor Posts: 2,010
    edited 2012-08-30 00:52
    Do you mean a lack of USB drivers on the Android devices? Because the physical USB socket is there, at least on the Transformer Prime and I assume it's there on the Infinity as well (the hardware is quite similar). I should qualify that: The USB socket is on the keyboard dock, not on the tablet part. Anyway that keyboard is almost always with me, it's the best way to carry he Prime around.
    USB disks and other USB mass storage work when connected to USB. Some other types of USB thingies don't seem to have drivers, but I haven't tried that many. It would have been nice to be able to plug in my QuickStart and go from there. Now with the propgcc effort there are some more possibilities than in the past. If I one day root the Prime it should be relatively straight forward I presume. In any case that Transformer Prime is the best gadget investment I've ever done, the closest must have been the Nokia N800 I bought in January 2007, there wasn't anything mobile like that around at the time. I have an 11.6" Samsung laptop which is almost the same physical size as the Prime, although a bit heavier, but I find that I in practice hardly ever use it or bring it. The Prime has 9 times the battery time, is lighter, and works better for most of what I do. (What I can't do on the tablet is development&coding. It does everything else.)

    -Tor
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2012-08-30 04:40
    But the lack of a USB outlet and the dependency on Apps have forced me to ignore Android. I gave up on paying the MS tariffs and have been living happily in Linux-land, where I can explore computing without constant demands to buy something.

    What's the difference between packages for linux or apps for android? To me android just seems like "linux with a gui for the phone". Or are you bothered by the pop up ads? I just delete everything that displays an ad, its been just fine.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2012-08-30 04:50
    Android is just another OS built on top of Linux. Although with all the useful functionality of unix like operating systems like Debian, RedHat, Ubuntu etc removed. Although I believe it is possible to get Debian running with Android on some devices.

    There is no more dependency on Apps as there is in packages for Debian say. You don't have to buy Android apps. I have never done so. There are many free and open source apps. You can write and install your own. I dabbled in that with some success in Java and C++ using Qt.

    Anything that starts demanding I buy anything or register anywhere immediately gets removed. End of problem.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2012-08-30 08:21
    @Prof_Braino
    My concern was that Apps were a library of applications controlled by the OS developer. Apple has certainly done that. Linux is wonderfully diverse and open. I has just been a bit uncertain about where Android would go on this.

    If the USB port supports an RS232 adapter, the Transformer is way ahead of the Apple iPad (which has none).

    Much as touch screens look fun, I prefer a keyboard and not trying to view through smudges of fingerprints.
  • John A. ZoidbergJohn A. Zoidberg Posts: 514
    edited 2012-08-30 21:05
    I have the Asus Transformer, but sans the "Infinity". It's pretty good, works well in any kind of usage.

    However, my grouse is on the docking station. Asus claimed that the docking station can charge the tablet - but when I tried to do so, the tablet ended up charging the docking station, which would drain all of the battery at once!

    I hope they could fix that in another update or something, actually.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2012-08-31 00:00
    interesting charging problem. It might be worth investigating on the web if this has been corrected. This should be something that Asus would directly resolve and support may be found at their websites, maybe a BIOS upgrade.

    The Infinity is their more expensive later released version of the Transformer. I liked the first as it was priced competitively. I am NOT ready to replace my existing notebooks, so I will just wait and see.

    Big shifts are occuring due to Apple/Samsung law suits. Samsung is now hot and heavy into promoting Windows8 devices, while ASUS is getting motivated to push more Android.

    In the background, one has to wonder if Google and Apple are going to start battling in the courts.
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2012-08-31 08:50
    What happened to small laptops running multiple operating systems, with a DVD burner, Ethernet, USB, and WWAN?

    I compare the size of my laptop with other peoples tablets and often wonder why they put themselves through all the pain and suffering of tablets over a slight weight and size difference I don't really get it. Seems like looks are take over functionality big time.

    I flew with my iPad and Foreflight for a long time and it's cool and everything, but just for very specific purposes. Yeah it's great I can divert to another airport with on touch of my finger but the iPad turned me off to tablets so bad I'll just stick with my 1" thicker 2 lbs heavier laptop that does it all :)
  • TorTor Posts: 2,010
    edited 2012-09-01 04:10
    I have the Asus Transformer, but sans the "Infinity". It's pretty good, works well in any kind of usage.

    However, my grouse is on the docking station. Asus claimed that the docking station can charge the tablet - but when I tried to do so, the tablet ended up charging the docking station, which would drain all of the battery at once!

    I hope they could fix that in another update or something, actually.
    That sounds like a hardware problem, not something that can be fixed by an update. I've never heard about such a thing. You didn't say if yours is a Prime or the previous models, but there are at least 3 or 4 of the old model around where I work, and a couple of Primes. In all of them the dock (keyboard) battery charges the tablet, never the other way around. It continues to charge the tablet even if the tablet is at 90% and the keyboard down in the red. That's the real problem actually - the design error is that the keyboard battery seems to be around the capacity of the tablet battery. For the always-charge strategy it uses the keyboard battery should have been twice or better three times the size of the tablet battery. As it's now it's too easy to floor the keyboard battery.

    -Tor
  • TorTor Posts: 2,010
    edited 2012-09-01 04:40
    I connected a QuickStart to my Transformer Prime.. and the 'dmesg' output showed that it has an FTDI driver and recognized that the QS got connected. Not much, but maybe it'll be possible to use the Transformer with Propeller boards somehow.

    -Tor
  • Adam WieslerAdam Wiesler Posts: 81
    edited 2012-09-02 16:56
    Hi everyone! We do have a transformer infinity, with the keyboard dock, and will say that it is great. It runs android perfectly. if I need to use Windows, I use an app called Spashtop, and remote desktop into a Windows install on a virtual machine (ESXi Host). This so far, has been working great. As for connecting to the propeller, this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slickdevlabs.apps.usbtoserialterm&hl=en works as advertised, and I can talk to a QuickStart well. No programming obviously, but as a terminal, it is great.
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