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R.I.P. - Neil Armstrong, 1st man on the moon, dies

Ron CzapalaRon Czapala Posts: 2,418
edited 2012-08-28 05:28 in General Discussion
Neil Armstrong was a quiet self-described nerdy engineer who became a global hero when as a steely-nerved pilot he made "one giant leap for mankind" with a small step on to the moon. The modest man who had people on Earth entranced and awed from almost a quarter million miles away has died. He was 82.


Armstrong died following complications resulting from cardiovascular procedures, a statement Saturday from his family said. It didn't say where he died.


Armstrong commanded the Apollo 11 spacecraft that landed on the moon July 20, 1969, capping the most daring of the 20th century's scientific expeditions. His first words after setting foot on the surface are etched in history books and the memories of those who heard them in a live broadcast.


"That's one small step for (a) man, one giant leap for mankind," Armstrong said.

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  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2012-08-25 13:52
    God's speed Neil Armstrong!

    You deserve a hero's send off!
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2012-08-25 14:00
    When Armstrong was born, airplanes looked like high-powered kites and it would be another 40 years before humans would ever walk on the moon. When Armstrong died, it had been 40 years since a human had walked on the moon.

    Nowadays we've got Twitter and Facebook to inspire the next generation.

    Inspiration. Surely there's an app for that.


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  • davejamesdavejames Posts: 4,047
    edited 2012-08-25 20:07
    ...(sigh)...head down...

    Thank you Sir, for your inspiration and accomplishments.
  • rod1963rod1963 Posts: 752
    edited 2012-08-25 20:16
    I remember that day quite clearly, it was something amazing.

    R.I.P Neil Armstrong

    Sad commentary that it's been 40 + years since Armstrong walked on the moon and all we have today is a golf cart on Mars, rely on the Russians to keep our space station operational. NASA has lost the ability to create spacecraft and has to out-source it. Makes me wonder what made those older engineers so talented compared to this generation who couldn't even create a modern space shuttle.

    From the Greatest generation to a generation of hipsters on facebook with imaginary farms.
  • W9GFOW9GFO Posts: 4,010
    edited 2012-08-25 21:33
    Even sadder is that there is a large group of people that believe, and try to spread the misinformation that the whole thing was an elaborate hoax.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2012-08-26 02:41
    Gosh, all that moon exploration was such a long time ago. I was 13 years old watching it live on an old black and white television.
    Was it just me being young or was the human race a lot more optimistic then?
    With every decade that goes by my admiration for those guys increases. The more you find out about the technology they were using the more unlikely it seems it would have ever worked. And how brave do you have to be to travel 240 thousand miles in to space, land on the moon and expect to be able to get back in this thing http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/369227main_aldrinLM_full.jpg

    As for the hoax nut heads, we had a nice talk about this in 2009 http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?114477-This-may-make-a-cool-Propeller-emulation-project-Apollo-landing-computer

  • John BoardJohn Board Posts: 371
    edited 2012-08-26 02:49
    I, myself, never lived through those times, although I am quite awed by their accomplisments, in the words of Gene Kranz, one of the old Flight Director veterans:

    "Humans can accomplish almost anything - if we commit."

    I watched a very interesting (and long, although I have to give credit to the directors of the series, it kept me on the edge of my seat for 6 hours (not continuous)) DVD recently about NASAs missions, I would highly recomend watching the series, called "When We Left Earth". It really is awe inspiring when I watch this old footage. The series not only contains narration about the footage, but also interviews with the actual (living) astronaughts.

    -John
  • lardomlardom Posts: 1,659
    edited 2012-08-26 04:48
    I was one of those watching it on TV. The idea of being the first to step on the moon would have caused me to wake up in a cold sweat!
  • TorTor Posts: 2,010
    edited 2012-08-26 05:13
    I was fortunate to watch it live (I was a boy at the time), and by then I had watched everything since Apollo 8. It annoyed me that the coverage was reduced for later missions. The last mission, in particular, did very interesting science.

    I've actually met one doubter in person.. the others I've only seen on the 'net. What they seem to have in common is that a) they are too young to actually have watched it themselves, and b) they don't seem to grasp the realities of the computer technology level at the time. What NASA got from MIT was cutting edge and maybe 3 years ahead of what was available commercially, and it wasn't much. There's a (modern) film where Buzz Aldrin explained the background for the troubles they had during landing (overload alarms), the 'computer' couldn't handle receiving input from the rendezvous radar and the landing radar at the same time. That was probably just simple 'pings', but it wasn't designed to handle more data than the input from one radar (but Mr. Aldrin, being "Dr. Rendezvous", thought differently than the MIT engineers: He wanted to keep the rendezvous radar on also during landing in case they had to abort, so that they would find the orbiter if they did.)

    I clicked on that 2009 thread link.. someone said "All that technology, and a ZX80 to navigate :D". Well, imagine that! A ZX80 would have been insanely powerful compared to what they actually had. It would have been technician heaven. In reality all they had was something that would have made the TI-30 calculator I bought some 6 years later seem like a supercomputer. But the doubters seem to think it could have been all computer generated.. well, it couldn't, you would have to use the type of movie props they did at the time. The best one was probably 2001 Space Odyssey from 1968, and that wouldn't fool us. Actually you just have to look at the (real) footage from the moon.. the landscape is completely different, visually, from what was imagined in fiction at the time. There's a moon sequence in 2001 too.. so to get the footage to look the way it does, i.e. as the moon really looks like (which we can verify today), you would have to go there to take pictures. Which is what they did. :)

    On topic again: In that film sequence with Buzz Aldrin that I mentioned above he also talks about how Neil Armstrong was the right guy to handle the landing: he kept his calm whatever happened. And they had some trouble, couldn't land where planned due to lots of rocks, very little fuel left, alarms, and still making all the right decisions. Some years earlier Neil Armstrong's Gemini capsule went into a spin and he did everything by the book and took it out of its spin, apparently without increasing his hearth rate much.

    -Tor
  • Mark_TMark_T Posts: 1,981
    edited 2012-08-26 05:22
    W9GFO wrote: »
    Even sadder is that there is a large group of people that believe, and try to spread the misinformation that the whole thing was an elaborate hoax.

    Well they probably need to see the photos they took on the moon - I've a book of them, full page colour plates (admittedly mostly grey!) in atonshingly quality (they took special Hasselblad cameras) no Photoshop in 1970's... I can see why its an enticing idea though - you could spend a whole lot less money faking it.
  • skylightskylight Posts: 1,915
    edited 2012-08-26 06:41
    I never got the chance to meet the great man although I met and shook hands with Buzz Aldrin when he popped into work to record an interview.
    The thing I got from the encounter was that they (the moon guys) were so underestimating of the fantastic achievement that they had done and Buzz came across as just an ordinary guy except for the fact that albeit his age he was as sharp as a razor, I was amazed at how articulate and intelligent he came over.

    I'm truly saddened at the great man's passing away but as others have said he will never be forgotten. Neil Armstrong RIP.
  • RDL2004RDL2004 Posts: 2,554
    edited 2012-08-26 07:39
    I believe that every human has a finite number of heartbeats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.

    - Neil Armstrong

    Maybe he was right, he certainly had a good long run.
    Thank you sir, and farewell.
  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
    edited 2012-08-26 14:04
    W9GFO wrote: »
    Even sadder is that there is a large group of people that believe, and try to spread the misinformation that the whole thing was an elaborate hoax.

    Hence the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment... I can believe anyone still thinks we didn't actually go.

    Wasn't there a movie based on this theory a long time ago?

    RIP Neil.. Thanks for inspiring all of us!

    Jeff
  • ajwardajward Posts: 1,130
    edited 2012-08-26 14:29
    Hence the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment... I can believe anyone still thinks we didn't actually go.

    Wasn't there a movie based on this theory a long time ago?

    RIP Neil.. Thanks for inspiring all of us!

    Jeff

    Capricorn One - 1977 Failed mission to Mars, but yeah... they faked it till the heat shield failed during re-entry to Earth. Mayhem ensued!~

    Indeed... R.I.P. Mr. Armstrong. "Second star to the right and straight on 'til morning."
  • W9GFOW9GFO Posts: 4,010
    edited 2012-08-26 14:30
    Recently on YouTube I found myself watching a 3-1/2 hr documentary (only made it a third of the way through - it is such horrible reasoning) titled something like "What really happened on the Moon". Their first piece of evidence was compelling. It had to do with a triangular flap that appeared in the photo of John Young when he jump saluted the flag. The scene was simultaneously videoed from a different angle. The freeze frame showed no such flap.

    They showed a nice picture of the top of the backpack where there was a triangular flap centered on the top with snaps around it. They said this is the flap that appeared in the photo and not the video. Therefor, they had to be taken at different times, therefor fake.

    I could not explain this discrepancy when I first watched it. However, after downloading the actual image from the lunar archive it is very clear that the flap photoed is not in the center of the backpack and it does not have snaps around it. Then I watched the video again and right there in the documentary you can see the flap "flapping" as John Young makes his jump. The freeze frame that they offer as evidence is just when the flap was captured in the down position.

    If you watch this "documentary" only once you are not looking for the flap when they play the video. After they mention the flap they do not run it again - they only show the single frame. It is clear to me that even the makers of the show know that they are being deceptive.

    My point is that the evidence of the Lunar landings being an actual event is so mind boggilly (sp?) overwhelming that to believe it is a hoax takes a "special" type of mentality that cannot be reasoned with.
  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
    edited 2012-08-26 14:33
    I had a friend who was a engineer who worked on the cape.

    His words, "It may have not gone to the moon, but it sure went somewhere... Watching the Saturn V go up was like watching someone launch a skyscraper."

    OBC
  • localrogerlocalroger Posts: 3,452
    edited 2012-08-26 15:56
    Last year I visited the NASA museum in Huntsville, AL. My wife and I got a special extra, a geezer who spotted us and gave us his "special" tour; turns out he worked at the place when the rockets were flying, and now in retirement he hangs around the museum to bask in the glory and add a little color. We spent about an hour getting his extra color on the Apollo museum exhibits and it was definitely value added.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2012-08-26 21:46
    That was a terrible week for two Armstrongs, Neil and Lance. Both will continue to be influential heroes to me for a long time.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2012-08-26 22:10
    ajward wrote: »
    Capricorn One - 1977 Failed mission to Mars, but yeah... they faked it till the heat shield failed during re-entry to Earth. Mayhem ensued!~

    Almost makes me want to watch Capricorn One Again, except for (ugh!) OJ Simpson. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhLHAKoK35w
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2012-08-27 06:31
    I believe that every human has a finite number of heartbeats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.

    - Neil Armstrong

    Being lazy I was always a fan of that idea until I discovered that there are those who maintain that if you exercise regularly your heart rate will slow down overall i.e. you will live longer.

    Problem is I only get one life so I cannot do the experiment both ways round to compare:)
  • blittledblittled Posts: 681
    edited 2012-08-27 08:30
    I too will miss the great man. He was an inspiration to me when I was 10 looking forward to the landing on the moon. Sadly my mom made me go to bed 2 hours before it happened so I never saw it live. I have since forgiven my mom for that but I wish I could've seen the great event live. RIP Neil Armstrong, you will never be forgotten.
  • ctwardellctwardell Posts: 1,716
    edited 2012-08-28 01:03
    I was glad to hear on the news that the President has directed that flags be flown at half staff on the day on Mr. Armstrong's funeral.

    I think a great way to honor Mr. Armstrong and all of those that were and are part of the space program is to reach out to today's kids and teach them the value of science and engineering.

    We took our 7 year old daughter to a local park on Sunday and launched a couple of model rockets as a small tribute.

    Chris Wardell
  • HumanoidoHumanoido Posts: 5,770
    edited 2012-08-28 01:46
    This is very sad news. Over time, I have watched the passing of the world's greatest heros. In world interest, we should do something about it, and find ways to increase life longevity. Neil was one of three brave heros that went to the Moon on that first trip. For anyone dealing with heart problems, there are new ways of cardiovascular improvements that can improve and extend life using non invasive machines. Neil, if only we could have talked.. I am so sorry and may you rest in peace..

    Neil Armstrong was 82. Michael Collins is 81 and Buzz Aldrin is 82.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2012-08-28 05:08
    A speech Nixon thankfully never had to make: a contingency speech had things gone wrong on the moon.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/speech-nixon-never-gave-event-moon-disaster-171446192.html

    It's sad to hear that Neil passed at 82, but it's a marvel that it happened back here on earth, long after a successful mission and a full life.

    RIP, Neil. Thank you for a job well done.
  • skylightskylight Posts: 1,915
    edited 2012-08-28 05:28
    When even the government knew of the emmense danger of the mission it goes to show how brave these astronauts were
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