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Can the PINK Netburner Kit be accessed over the internet?

shanebatyshanebaty Posts: 30
edited 2012-07-20 09:49 in General Discussion
A while back I saw that the Parallax Internet Netburner Kit was going to be discontinued. So I decided to go ahead and buy one before it was out of stock. When I received it, i was busy working on other projects so I never really got the chance to mess with it other than to make sure it would work on my home network. well now I finally have time to mess with this thing and I am not quite sure on how to access it from and outside network or if it is even possible.

I'v got it working on my Home network, so anything connect to my wifi can access it with the"http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/nb_factory.htm" address.(x's being the ip)

My question is, what needs to be done to access this from anywhere?
Thanks!

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  • FranklinFranklin Posts: 4,747
    edited 2012-07-17 12:55
    You will need to make a hole in your home network either by using a DMZ or port forwarding from your router. Let us know what router you have and your provider. Your provider might also be of help on setting up your router.
  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2012-07-17 12:59
    There's really nothing different that you have to do with the Netburner. The changes you'd have to make are all in your router which you may have furnished or may be furnished by your Internet provider ... and they're all different. The router provides IP addresses for your local network and translates IP addresses from whatever your provider provides to a specific range of addresses set aside for local use. Some routers have the ability to translate specific incoming ports to specific local IP addresses and that's the sort of thing you have to set up. Once you have that, you can initialize your PINK to that IP address and you'll be able to reach it from the general Internet at a specific port number.
  • shanebatyshanebaty Posts: 30
    edited 2012-07-17 13:14
    I have a dlink dir615 router that I set up. I also have already been messing with the port forwarding and I set it up on port 68 and the ip of the pink is 192.168.1.113... and thats pretty much where I got stuck.

    Would the address I type in at a remote location be the same as the address i type in on the same network " 192.168.1.113/index.htm"?
  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2012-07-17 13:34
    No. The address you set for the Netburner is the internal address for your local network. From outside, you only see the address assigned to the router by your Internet provider. You may have a dynamic address assigned that changes every time you power cycle the router. You'll have to check with your Internet provider for that information. If you've set up port forwarding using port 68, you'd refer to the PINK from outside using http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:68/index.htm where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the IP address provided by your Internet provider to your router.
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2012-07-17 14:34
    Most ISP's charge for Static IP addresses. To avoid this you can use No-Ip. They have a free service but I use the $20.00 per year service. This works out geat and their tech support can help with adding your host account. Once that is complete you simply type in the site name that you created and this will get you to whichever system(s) you set the port forwarding to. Note that most ISP's (Centurylink, Comcast,Cox) and many others block port 80. No-IP offers a port 80 redirect which works very nicely also.
  • shanebatyshanebaty Posts: 30
    edited 2012-07-17 15:43
    I have a dynamic ip. I already have something on port 80 so I have been using 68. So now im trying no-ip but setting up the host seems to be a little confusing for me
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2012-07-17 18:55
    Make sure you have downloaded, istalled and run the No-IP software. You can select edit on your local machine to get your IP address.
    Log in to No-IP.com. On the Main Page, Click on Add A Host. Once you create a Host and save go to Manage Hosts. Select Host you want to manage, then Modify. Your IP address should come up and you can choose Web Redirect. If IP address is not there type in the one that comes up on your No-IP on PC. Enter the port you want to forward to and selcet update at bottom of screen.
    If you are still having issues contact tech support. They are very helpful and can get you up and running fairly quick.

    If you want to test from outside I would be happy to do that for you. Just send over the ip info. (I am a PC Technician and I do not hack other peoples systems.)
  • FranklinFranklin Posts: 4,747
    edited 2012-07-17 20:50
    I already have something on port 80 so I have been using 68
    If you can get to your system on port 80 then Mike's suggestion should work (http://<your ip address>:68
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2012-07-17 21:05
    Franklin wrote: »
    If you can get to your system on port 80 then Mike's suggestion should work (http://<your ip address>:68

    Since he is on a Dynamic IP it will not work constantly until he gets a Static IP. His LAN side is working. It is the WAN side where he is having issues.
  • RDL2004RDL2004 Posts: 2,554
    edited 2012-07-17 22:16
    It doesn't matter if the IP address is static or dynamic. The only problem with dynamic (DHCP) is that it can change frequently (though often not as frequently as you might think - my IP address with Comcast often stays the same for weeks at a time). An easy way to find out what IP address you currently have is by going to Google and typing "what is my ip" in the search box.
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2012-07-17 22:24
    It matters if you are not at the PC and want to log in remotely when the IP address gets changed. Using the free NO-IP service is much easier in that the IP address stays the same no matter what. Also, Comcast and other ISP's like to block services so they can sell "blocks" of static IP addresses. If the solution was that easy no one would ever need static IP's.
  • RDL2004RDL2004 Posts: 2,554
    edited 2012-07-17 22:29
    It matters if you are not at the PC and want to log in remotely when the IP address gets changed.

    Well, that is not quite the same thing as "it will not work until he gets a Static IP".
    :)
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2012-07-17 22:47
    My bad. Edited post.
  • shanebatyshanebaty Posts: 30
    edited 2012-07-18 11:23
    Franklin wrote: »
    If you can get to your system on port 80 then Mike's suggestion should work (http://<your ip address>:68

    Wait if i change the port to 80 , still put 68?
    Also, thanks for all the help. i tried many different things yesterday with some success(by some success i mean i got it to work once). but I'm going back at it again today. ill keep you all updated
  • shanebatyshanebaty Posts: 30
    edited 2012-07-18 11:35
    Success!!! so it seems it only likes port 80? Any explanation why?
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2012-07-18 11:50
    Try port 85 and see if that works. Are you using IIS on your default PC?
  • shanebatyshanebaty Posts: 30
    edited 2012-07-18 12:04
    What is IIS?
  • NWCCTVNWCCTV Posts: 3,629
    edited 2012-07-18 12:12
    Internet Information Services. You had mentioned that you were using Port 80 for something else. IIS is what enables you to connect to internal web pages, etc. on a given system. Was Port 80 used on a PC or some other device? If on the same PC as you are currently using go to Control Panel, Administrative Tools and IIS will be in there.
  • shanebatyshanebaty Posts: 30
    edited 2012-07-18 12:39
    Ohh ... My roommate was using port 80 for his wifi security cam. He no longer has it so i just moved him off. I dont see IIS in there.
  • TParallaxTParallax Posts: 1
    edited 2012-07-20 09:49
    Hello. I work for NetBurner. I do not normally monitor this forum, but the question with regard to NetBurner showed up in my google news feed.
    Lots of excellent advice in this thread, especially Mike's port forwarding description. I would like to add just a few comments that might be helpful.

    With regard to a changing IP, some routers also support dynamic DNS so you could access your device by name instead of IP address, and the name will get updated by the router sending a UDP packet to the dynamic DNS server any time your router's IP address changes. I am not sure how NO-IP works, but it might be similar.

    Some ISPs block port 80 and 8080, so if those do not work try a different port number. Ports below 1024 are reserved "well known" port numbers, so usually something higher works.

    Lastly, the NetBurner PINK is alive and well, we sell it directly now. We also have a PINK-LC, which is a lower cost unit, but it is 3.3V only and cannot be used with 5V devices. We have customers using it with the Propeller and it works very well. Here is a link if anyone is interested: http://www.netburner.com/pink/

    Best regards,

    Tom
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