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  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-01-29 14:59
    Just to add to your long list of todo items...
    Is there any chance Tackyon might support serial file transfers via packets? Such as Xmodem or Kermit.

    This might open up some interesting avenues for development.

    Yuck, Xmodem I hated although Zmodem was a lot better and Kermit I have tackled in the distant past. File transfers via the serial port normally mean that you have a file system on your Prop and if you have an FS then you normally have a memory card that can be removed etc. For remote access I favor FTP using the cheap W5200 chip. Notwithstanding, a simple Xmodem receive could even be built into the serial cog so that it automatically entered Xmodem on an SOH but would need to know beforehand where to put the file or else use the block 0 method to name it. How and on what are you thinking of using it?
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-01-29 15:24
    D.P wrote: »
    As with dating and courting so it is with hardware/software: "Date what you see, not the potential". I truly appreciate your focus and attention to detail regarding P1 and Tachyon Peter.

    Thanks Dave, On the "other" forum I am amazed at all the energy and activity being put into a product that hasn't yet coalesced into something tangible. It's like a farmer spending all his time planning super silos for fields of wheat that the land hasn't even been bought for yet, and yet real farmers have real farms that need real work every day, otherwise no more super silos. There is an old saying "while the grass is growing the cow is starving". Yes, it will be good when it gets here but the reality is you also need something now otherwise there will be no cow.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-01-29 17:38
    Yuck, Xmodem I hated although Zmodem was a lot better and Kermit I have tackled in the distant past. File transfers via the serial port normally mean that you have a file system on your Prop and if you have an FS then you normally have a memory card that can be removed etc. For remote access I favor FTP using the cheap W5200 chip. Notwithstanding, a simple Xmodem receive could even be built into the serial cog so that it automatically entered Xmodem on an SOH but would need to know beforehand where to put the file or else use the block 0 method to name it. How and on what are you thinking of using it?

    I have run into a couple of Propeller users that are using HP calculators with RS232 serial interface and these support Xmodem and Kermit. It seems that Xmodem is easier to deploy, so I guess that would be enough if a rational need arises. For now I am not sure. The calculators also provide a generic RS232 mode.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2014-01-29 17:45
    richaj45 wrote: »
    @Peter

    Is there a ways to list the dependances of a word.

    That is, start with a word and list all the other words it calls down to the root of the word.

    Thanks
    rich

    @Rich,
    If you want to trace Forth lexicon back to the least number of primitives, eForth has done this already. I am sure it doesn't conform with any of the versions of Forth on the Propeller as each developer has selected to optimize the lower levels of lexicon in different ways. Everything runs faster in PASM, so creating a Forth with the least number of primitives is more of an academic exercise than a way to code a fast Forth interpreter.

    Here is the document. It is a good read and has loads of interesting insights.
  • richaj45richaj45 Posts: 179
    edited 2014-01-30 06:17
    @Loopy

    Nice reference doc.
    Have you read the book "Threaded Interpretive Languages" by Loeliger?

    It is also a very good reference.

    I am just trying to understand the inner workings of Tachyon. I am thinking it may be the best way to use the Prop.

    Always trying to learn but not always succeeding.
    rich
  • Brian RileyBrian Riley Posts: 626
    edited 2014-01-30 15:03
    THIS IS GETTING FRUSTRATING!!!!

    I loaded the spin kernel, then typed "CREATE SMALL" . Then loaded in order, EXTEND, QS, SDCARD, MULTIFAT, typed "BACKUP REBOOT" ( 5597 bytes free). Then loaded NETWORK which choked at line 41 each time.

    I found this puzzling since this choke point occurs several 100 lines before it choked when I wasn't doing "CREATE SMALL"
    ok
    REBOOT 
    
      Propeller .:.:--TACHYON--:.:. Forth V23140128.0000
    
    NAMES:  $56A7...74DC for 7733 (1024 bytes added)
    CODE:   $0000...40CA for 8853 (1641 bytes added)
    CALLS:  0297 vectors free
    RAM:    5597 bytes free
    
    AUTORUN EXTEND.boot
    MODULES LOADED: 
    3A61: W5200.fth           WIZNET W5200 driver 131211.1530 
    3114: MULTIFILE.fth       FAT32/16 MultiFile Layer V1.1 140123-0000 
    29C3: SDCARD.fth          SD CARD Toolkit - 140121.2200 
    2818: QuickStart.fth      QuickStart + W5200 HARDWARE DEFINITIONS 131204.1200 
    1801: EXTEND.fth          Primary extensions to TACHYON kernel - 140121-2100 
    
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    TACHYON 
      Propeller .:.:--TACHYON--:.:. Forth V23140128.0000
     ok
    [~ 
    0000  Not found 
    0001 
    0002 WIZNET NETWORK SERVERS 140128.1730 "
    0003 
    0004 
    0005 
    0006 
    0007 
    0008 
    0009 
    0010 
    0011 
    0012 
    0013 
    0014 
    0015 
    0016 
    
    
    
    
    0017 
    0018 
    0019 
    0020 
    0021 
    0022 
    0023 
    0024 
    0025 
    0026 
    0027 
    
    0028 
    0029 
    0030 
    
    0031 
    0032 
    0033 
    0034 
    0035 
    0036 
    0037 
    0038 
    0039 
    
    
    0040 
    0041 
    CONNECT   SOCKET #" .DT
    
  • OldFartRadiomanOldFartRadioman Posts: 30
    edited 2014-01-30 16:22
    richaj45 wrote: »
    @Loopy

    Nice reference doc.
    Have you read the book "Threaded Interpretive Languages" by Loeliger?

    It is also a very good reference.



    I am just trying to understand the inner workings of Tachyon. I am thinking it may be the best way to use the Prop.

    Always trying to learn but not always succeeding.
    rich

    What a blast from the past. Back in the 80's implimented the TIL from this book on a SD Systems Z80 Starter Kit, with 8K of ram hand wire wrapped on a S100 expansion card, Hand assembled the code on a legal pad ( and yes back in the day I could do hex arithmatic in my head ) entered the hex code on a keypad until I boot strapped the monitor over to a TI 800 series printing terminal. Will never forget the feeling of seeing that first OK prompt, 2 in the morning and yelling so loud I woke my new bride up. BTW: the code in that book ( unless corrected in a later printing ) is full of errors.
  • richaj45richaj45 Posts: 179
    edited 2014-01-30 17:08
    Yes, i know the book has error cause i used it to write TIL for a Z80 CP/M system.
    I would get stuck and realize the book either left steps out or was wrong but the ideas were solid.
    I did my assembly coding at lunch time at work since i did not have a CP/M system at home.

    Took me over two months and i was so thrilled when it worked. It was like a discover something that no one had ever discovered before.

    cheers,
    rich
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-01-30 19:05
    THIS IS GETTING FRUSTRATING!!!!

    I loaded the spin kernel, then typed "CREATE SMALL" . Then loaded in order, EXTEND, QS, SDCARD, MULTIFAT, typed "BACKUP REBOOT" ( 5597 bytes free). Then loaded NETWORK which choked at line 41 each time.

    I found this puzzling since this choke point occurs several 100 lines before it choked when I wasn't doing "CREATE SMALL"
    ok
    REBOOT 
    
      Propeller .:.:--TACHYON--:.:. Forth V23140128.0000
    
    NAMES:  $56A7...74DC for 7733 (1024 bytes added)
    CODE:   $0000...40CA for 8853 (1641 bytes added)
    CALLS:  0297 vectors free
    RAM:    5597 bytes free
    
    AUTORUN EXTEND.boot
    MODULES LOADED: 
    3A61: W5200.fth           WIZNET W5200 driver 131211.1530 
    3114: MULTIFILE.fth       FAT32/16 MultiFile Layer V1.1 140123-0000 
    29C3: SDCARD.fth          SD CARD Toolkit - 140121.2200 
    2818: QuickStart.fth      QuickStart + W5200 HARDWARE DEFINITIONS 131204.1200 
    1801: EXTEND.fth          Primary extensions to TACHYON kernel - 140121-2100 
    
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    TACHYON 
      Propeller .:.:--TACHYON--:.:. Forth V23140128.0000
     ok
    [~ 
    0000  Not found 
    0001 
    0002 WIZNET NETWORK SERVERS 140128.1730 "
    <snip>
    0040 
    0041 
    CONNECT   SOCKET #" .DT
    

    Your modules look fine as they are very similar to mine.
    [FONT=courier new]MODULES LOADED: 
    4182: NETWORK.fth         WIZNET NETWORK SERVERS 140128.1730 
    3B19: W5200.fth           WIZNET W5200 driver 131211.1530 
    31CC: MULTIFILE.fth       FAT32/16 MultiFile Layer V1.1 140123-0000 
    2A7C: SDCARD.fth          SD CARD Toolkit - 140121.2200 
    2818: CE1372.fth          CE1372 WIDGET HARDWARE DEFINITIONS 131109.2340 
    1801: EXTEND.fth          Primary extensions to TACHYON kernel - 140121-2100 
    -[/FONT]
    

    So I decided to backtrack and load in QuickStart.fth since that was the only difference. It stopped at .DT
    TACHYON
    Propeller .:.:--TACHYON--:.:. Forth V23140128.0000
    ok
    CONNECT SOCKET #" .DTVERS 140128.1730 "

    which is the word to print the date and time, so it seems QS needs to be patched with a dummy version or else the RTC section in that file needs to be enabled, the line:
    {
    RTC not tested yet !!!!!!!!

    needs to be deleted and the RTC words tested. I think this is the same chip on the Spinneret in which case I can test it but in the meantime just insert a dummy stub in QS for .DT.
    I think my next task might also to be to improve this error reporting as even I find it a little frustrating sometimes :)

    EDIT: I've just patched EXTEND with a simple error handler which should make errors more visible.
    EDIT: Unpatched EXTEND and made a change to the kernel so now that same error comes up like this:
    CONNECT SOCKET #" --> .DT <-- NOT FOUND
    @Brian: Just make sure it performs the same way on your system before we define .DT
  • Brian RileyBrian Riley Posts: 626
    edited 2014-01-30 21:24
    Yup!!!! All set ... Bring er on!
    0040 
    0041 
    connect   socket #" --> .dt <-- not found 
    
    
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-01-30 21:30
    Yup!!!! All set ... Bring er on!
    0040 
    0041 
    connect   socket #" --> .dt <-- not found 
    
    
    Good, just delete that line in QS so it will at least compile the RTC words even if they don't report the time correctly. I will get to check it out soon though.
    BTW, how come your console message is in lower case?
  • Brian RileyBrian Riley Posts: 626
    edited 2014-01-30 21:49
    Good, just delete that line in QS so it will at least compile the RTC words even if they don't report the time correctly. I will get to check it out soon though.
    BTW, how come your console message is in lower case?

    Dunno ...... it happened during copy/paste

    I checked Spinnaret and WizNet schematics ... YES, same RTC chip for both Seiko S-35390a
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-01-30 21:59
    Dunno ...... it happened during copy/paste

    I checked Spinnaret and WizNet schematics ... YES, same RTC chip for both Seiko S-35390a

    Okay, so while I get around to testing the RTC you can either just define a dummy .DT or enable that untested code which won't hurt anything either.


    EDIT: I have now tested the RTC code, that chip is really wired back-to-front and very non I2C standard but there it is. Seems to work well enough for now. Have updated dropbox too.
  • Brian RileyBrian Riley Posts: 626
    edited 2014-01-31 13:32
    EUREKA!!! IT WORKS

    **almost** on the first try!!

    File: QS.FTH, line 91 - extraneous tick to right of right paren


      Propeller .:.:--TACHYON--:.:. Forth V23140130.0000
    
    NAMES:  $57C7...74EA for 7459 (4294966891 bytes added)
    CODE:   $0000...4B26 for 11779 (2484 bytes added)
    CALLS:  0224 vectors free
    RAM:    3233 bytes free
    
    AUTORUN EXTEND.boot
    MODULES LOADED: 
    4172: NETWORK.fth         WIZNET NETWORK SERVERS 140128.1730 
    3B09: W5200.fth           WIZNET W5200 driver 131211.1530 
    31BC: MULTIFILE.fth       FAT32/16 MultiFile Layer V1.1 140123-0000 
    2A6C: SDCARD.fth          SD CARD Toolkit - 140121.2200 
    2818: QuickStart.fth      QuickStart + W5200 HARDWARE DEFINITIONS 140131.2130 
    1801: EXTEND.fth          Primary extensions to TACHYON kernel - 140131-1300 
    
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    GO 
    NAMES:  $57C7...74EA for 7459 (4294966891 bytes added)
    CODE:   $0000...4B26 for 11779 (2484 bytes added)
    CALLS:  0224 vectors free
    RAM:    3233 bytes free
    
    AUTORUN EXTEND.boot
    MODULES LOADED: 
    4172: NETWORK.fth         WIZNET NETWORK SERVERS 140128.1730 
    3B09: W5200.fth           WIZNET W5200 driver 131211.1530 
    31BC: MULTIFILE.fth       FAT32/16 MultiFile Layer V1.1 140123-0000 
    2A6C: SDCARD.fth          SD CARD Toolkit - 140121.2200 
    2818: QuickStart.fth      QuickStart + W5200 HARDWARE DEFINITIONS 140131.2130 
    1801: EXTEND.fth          Primary extensions to TACHYON kernel - 140131-1300 
    
    *** Tachyon Forth Network and File Server *** 
    
    Mounted SD Card 
    Media mounted as 3C18.8F1F          NO NAME     FAT32    Cluster size = 32,768   Sectors = 15,269,888
    Listing directory 
    NO NAME    
    
    LOG0002 .TXT     LOG0001 .TXT     FAVICON .ICO     PARALLAX.PNG     HOME    .HTM     NETWORK .FTH     EXTEND  .FTH     CE1372  .FTH     
    SDCARD  .FTH     MULTIFAT.FTH     W5200   .FTH     TACHYON .JPG     HTTP404 .HTM     LOGON   .        LOGON   .TXT     SYSLOG  .TXT     
    ROM     .BIN     ROM3    .BIN     ROM2    .BIN     ROM1    .BIN     ROM0    .BIN     TACHYON .LST     LOG0008 .TXT     LOG0007 .TXT     
    LOG0006 .TXT     LOG0005 .TXT     LOG0004 .TXT     LOG0003 .TXT     SPOTLI~1.        ~1      .TRA     TRASHE~1.        FSEVEN~1.        
    
    Waiting for Ethernet to come up  ... ready! 
    
    ************ W5200 STATUS ************ 
    LINK *UP*
    CHIP VER  0003
    SRC IP    010.000.001.107.
    MASK      255.255.255.000.
    GATEWAY   010.000.001.001.
    MAC       00.08.80.C1.38.B6.
    *** SOCKETS *** 
    0: MODE= TCP    PORT#00023 00000  TXRW=0000.0000.RXRW=0000.0000.RXSZ=0000.IR=00	 STAT=14 LISTEN 
    1: MODE= TCP    PORT#00021 00000  TXRW=0000.0000.RXRW=0000.0000.RXSZ=0000.IR=00	 STAT=14 LISTEN 
    4: MODE= TCP    PORT#00080 00000  TXRW=0000.0000.RXRW=0000.0000.RXSZ=0000.IR=00	 STAT=14 LISTEN 
    5: MODE= TCP    PORT#00081 00000  TXRW=0000.0000.RXRW=0000.0000.RXSZ=0000.IR=00	 STAT=14 LISTEN 
    6: MODE= TCP    PORT#00082 00000  TXRW=0000.0000.RXRW=0000.0000.RXSZ=0000.IR=00	 STAT=14 LISTEN 
    7: MODE= TCP    PORT#00083 00000  TXRW=0000.0000.RXRW=0000.0000.RXSZ=0000.IR=00	 STAT=14 LISTEN 
    
    * WEB, FTP, and TELNET servers running * 
     ok
    Mounted SD Card 
    Media mounted as 3C18.8F1F          NO NAME     FAT32    Cluster size = 32,768   Sectors = 15,269,888
    CONNECT   SOCKET #02000/01/04 55:00:11
    
    
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-02-02 17:21
    EUREKA!!! IT WORKS

    **almost** on the first try!!

    File: QS.FTH, line 91 - extraneous tick to right of right paren


      Propeller .:.:--TACHYON--:.:. Forth V23140130.0000
    
    NAMES:  $57C7...74EA for 7459 (4294966891 bytes added)
    CODE:   $0000...4B26 for 11779 (2484 bytes added)
    CALLS:  0224 vectors free
    RAM:    3233 bytes free
    
    AUTORUN EXTEND.boot
    MODULES LOADED: 
    4172: NETWORK.fth         WIZNET NETWORK SERVERS 140128.1730 
    3B09: W5200.fth           WIZNET W5200 driver 131211.1530 
    31BC: MULTIFILE.fth       FAT32/16 MultiFile Layer V1.1 140123-0000 
    2A6C: SDCARD.fth          SD CARD Toolkit - 140121.2200 
    2818: QuickStart.fth      QuickStart + W5200 HARDWARE DEFINITIONS 140131.2130 
    1801: EXTEND.fth          Primary extensions to TACHYON kernel - 140131-1300 
    
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    GO 
    NAMES:  $57C7...74EA for 7459 (4294966891 bytes added)
    CODE:   $0000...4B26 for 11779 (2484 bytes added)
    CALLS:  0224 vectors free
    RAM:    3233 bytes free
    
    AUTORUN EXTEND.boot
    MODULES LOADED: 
    4172: NETWORK.fth         WIZNET NETWORK SERVERS 140128.1730 
    3B09: W5200.fth           WIZNET W5200 driver 131211.1530 
    31BC: MULTIFILE.fth       FAT32/16 MultiFile Layer V1.1 140123-0000 
    2A6C: SDCARD.fth          SD CARD Toolkit - 140121.2200 
    2818: QuickStart.fth      QuickStart + W5200 HARDWARE DEFINITIONS 140131.2130 
    1801: EXTEND.fth          Primary extensions to TACHYON kernel - 140131-1300 
    
    *** Tachyon Forth Network and File Server *** 
    
    Mounted SD Card 
    Media mounted as 3C18.8F1F          NO NAME     FAT32    Cluster size = 32,768   Sectors = 15,269,888
    Listing directory 
    NO NAME    
    
    LOG0002 .TXT     LOG0001 .TXT     FAVICON .ICO     PARALLAX.PNG     HOME    .HTM     NETWORK .FTH     EXTEND  .FTH     CE1372  .FTH     
    SDCARD  .FTH     MULTIFAT.FTH     W5200   .FTH     TACHYON .JPG     HTTP404 .HTM     LOGON   .        LOGON   .TXT     SYSLOG  .TXT     
    ROM     .BIN     ROM3    .BIN     ROM2    .BIN     ROM1    .BIN     ROM0    .BIN     TACHYON .LST     LOG0008 .TXT     LOG0007 .TXT     
    LOG0006 .TXT     LOG0005 .TXT     LOG0004 .TXT     LOG0003 .TXT     SPOTLI~1.        ~1      .TRA     TRASHE~1.        FSEVEN~1.        
    
    Waiting for Ethernet to come up  ... ready! 
    
    ************ W5200 STATUS ************ 
    LINK *UP*
    CHIP VER  0003
    SRC IP    010.000.001.107.
    MASK      255.255.255.000.
    GATEWAY   010.000.001.001.
    MAC       00.08.80.C1.38.B6.
    *** SOCKETS *** 
    0: MODE= TCP    PORT#00023 00000  TXRW=0000.0000.RXRW=0000.0000.RXSZ=0000.IR=00     STAT=14 LISTEN 
    1: MODE= TCP    PORT#00021 00000  TXRW=0000.0000.RXRW=0000.0000.RXSZ=0000.IR=00     STAT=14 LISTEN 
    4: MODE= TCP    PORT#00080 00000  TXRW=0000.0000.RXRW=0000.0000.RXSZ=0000.IR=00     STAT=14 LISTEN 
    5: MODE= TCP    PORT#00081 00000  TXRW=0000.0000.RXRW=0000.0000.RXSZ=0000.IR=00     STAT=14 LISTEN 
    6: MODE= TCP    PORT#00082 00000  TXRW=0000.0000.RXRW=0000.0000.RXSZ=0000.IR=00     STAT=14 LISTEN 
    7: MODE= TCP    PORT#00083 00000  TXRW=0000.0000.RXRW=0000.0000.RXSZ=0000.IR=00     STAT=14 LISTEN 
    
    * WEB, FTP, and TELNET servers running * 
     ok
    Mounted SD Card 
    Media mounted as 3C18.8F1F          NO NAME     FAT32    Cluster size = 32,768   Sectors = 15,269,888
    CONNECT   SOCKET #02000/01/04 55:00:11
    
    

    Good stuff Brian, I will update those network files etc soon as well as I have been making some improvements.

    UPDATES:
    KERNEL: A few minor changes to the kernel for error reporting etc
    EXTEND: Added HELP and REVECTOR where you can say REVECTOR CON MYCON and all compiled references to the old CON will now point to MYCON for instance.
    MULTIFAT: Removed .LIST and added it to NETWORK so that this part can be customized for FTP
    NETWORK: improved client interoperability etc, posting after I run some more tests.

    I'm also looking at adding specialized dictionaries especially with reference to HTTP and FTP commands. For instance, I get caught trying to use the kernel word TYPE but it ends up with the immediate FTP word TYPE !!!
  • D.PD.P Posts: 790
    edited 2014-02-02 21:23
    Good stuff Brian, I will update those network files etc soon as well as I have been making some improvements.

    UPDATES:
    KERNEL: A few minor changes to the kernel for error reporting etc
    EXTEND: Added HELP and REVECTOR where you can say REVECTOR CON MYCON and all compiled references to the old CON will now point to MYCON for instance.
    MULTIFAT: Removed .LIST and added it to NETWORK so that this part can be customized for FTP
    NETWORK: improved client interoperability etc, posting after I run some more tests.

    I'm also looking at adding specialized dictionaries especially with reference to HTTP and FTP commands. For instance, I get caught trying to use the kernel word TYPE but it ends up with the immediate FTP word TYPE !!!

    To input a Time to TIME! you must encode 9:15:00pm as $15.0F.00 to get 21:15:00 on the console.

    But the DATE! encoding is $14.02.02 to get 2014/02/02.

    Is this intended or should TIME! use $21.15.00 as an input?

    Good stuff with the updates!
    REBOOT 
      Propeller .:.:--TACHYON--:.:. Forth V23140203.0000
    
    NAMES:  $5E9E...74EB for 5709 (3195 bytes added)
    CODE:   $0000...30E0 for 6803 (6368 bytes added)
    CALLS:  0505 vectors free
    RAM:    11710 bytes free
    
    AUTORUN EXTEND.boot
    MODULES LOADED: 
    1800: EXTEND.fth          Primary extensions to TACHYON kernel - 140203-1300 
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    .DT 2000/00/00 00:00:12 ok
    $14.02.02 DATE!  ok
    .DT 2014/02/02 00:00:43 ok
    $21.15.00 TIME!  ok
    .DT 2014/02/02 33:21:02 ok
    $15.0F.00 TIME!  ok
    .DT 2014/02/02 21:15:01 ok
    
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-02-02 22:31
    D.P wrote: »
    To input a Time to TIME! you must encode 9:15:00pm as $15.0F.00 to get 21:15:00 on the console.

    But the DATE! encoding is $14.02.02 to get 2014/02/02.

    Is this intended or should TIME! use $21.15.00 as an input?

    Good stuff with the updates!

    I haven't used that feature so I haven't really checked it out either until now. I've been in a bit of a quandary as to how I want to store and handle the time but I have decided to keep it all in BCD format so now everything including the soft counting expects it to be BCD as that is how RTCs mostly handle it and very rarely do we need to do calculations or conversions.
    $235950 TIME! ok
    .TIME 23:59:51 ok
    23:59:52 ok
    23:59:53 ok
    23:59:54 ok
    23:59:56 ok
    23:59:57 ok
    23:59:58 ok
    23:59:59 ok
    23:59:59 ok
    00:00:00 ok
    00:00:01 ok
    00:00:02 ok
    00:00:02 ok

    EDIT: repeat lines are reexecuted with ^X

    EDIT: update also includes basic calendar functions so date will be maintained which also includes a backup to it's image in EEPROM so that it is maintained during resets etc.
    2014/02/28 23:50:53 ok
    2014/03/01 00:02:14 ok




  • Brian RileyBrian Riley Posts: 626
    edited 2014-02-03 14:21
    OK

    QS.FTH Line 91 --> ` <-- NOT FOUND

    NETWORK.FTH LINE 1 --> TACHYON <-- NOT FOUND
    LINE 220 --> .LIST <-- NOT FOUND

    ... darned if I know why a was wrong with "TACHYON" ... the Oh looked hinky so I simply retyped the word and it went through.
  • D.PD.P Posts: 790
    edited 2014-02-03 15:07
    OK

    QS.FTH Line 91 --> ` <-- NOT FOUND

    NETWORK.FTH LINE 1 --> TACHYON <-- NOT FOUND
    LINE 220 --> .LIST <-- NOT FOUND

    ... darned if I know why a was wrong with "TACHYON" ... the Oh looked hinky so I simply retyped the word and it went through.

    Missing a ` and .LIST and TACHYON, all known good words, seems as if your line delay is not long enough during compilation, try adding some ms to your terminal line delay. I use 23ms in minicomm on my Macbook Pro, no char delay
  • Brian RileyBrian Riley Posts: 626
    edited 2014-02-03 17:45
    D.P wrote: »
    Missing a ` and .LIST and TACHYON, all known good words, seems as if your line delay is not long enough during compilation, try adding some ms to your terminal line delay. I use 23ms in minicomm on my Macbook Pro, no char delay

    I am running 24 msecs in CoolTerm on my iMac ...

    ( S-35390A)' <--- this is a typo

    TACHYON <--- another typo, it had the wrong "O", both easily fixed

    BUTTTTTTTTT

    NETWORK.FTH Line 220
    pub LIST
          ON LANLED
        ." 150 Here comes the directory listing" CR
        CON CR REVERSE ." LIST REQUEST " PLAIN CR
        FTPDAT SOCKET CONNECT
        LAN .LIST                                \ Send off the directory listing in compatible format
        DISCONNECT
        FTP SOCKET LAN ." 226 Directory send OK" CR
        ;
    IMMEDIATE
    
    

    '.LIST' - I did some grep-ing and it does not seem to appear anywhere but here.
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-02-03 17:58
    I am running 24 msecs in CoolTerm on my iMac ...

    ( S-35390A)' <--- this is a typo

    TACHYON <--- another typo, it had the wrong "O", both easily fixed

    BUTTTTTTTTT

    NETWORK.FTH Line 220
    pub LIST
          ON LANLED
        ." 150 Here comes the directory listing" CR
        CON CR REVERSE ." LIST REQUEST " PLAIN CR
        FTPDAT SOCKET CONNECT
        LAN .LIST                                \ Send off the directory listing in compatible format
        DISCONNECT
        FTP SOCKET LAN ." 226 Directory send OK" CR
        ;
    IMMEDIATE
    
    

    '.LIST' - I did some grep-ing and it does not seem to appear anywhere but here.

    See this post where I mentioned I had moved .LIST away from MULTIFILE over to NETWORK so I can fine tune this word as some FTP clients are fussy. The dropbox versions should be current.

    BTW, I've got no idea why you have the wrong O in TACHYON etc.
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-02-04 06:09
    It's official, this thread has now had 77,777 views.
    Screenshot from 2014-02-05 00:04:55.jpg

    Couldn't believe it even got past 1,000 or even 10,000
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2014-02-04 06:47
    Congratulations on creating an obvious success in the Propeller Community!! :thumb:
  • Brian RileyBrian Riley Posts: 626
    edited 2014-02-04 10:27
    See this post where I mentioned I had moved .LIST away from MULTIFILE over to NETWORK so I can fine tune this word as some FTP clients are fussy. The dropbox versions should be current.

    Yes, Peter, you did say in that thread, that you moved ".LIST" from MULTIFAT to NETWORK. But look again at what you had in NETWORK ... you defined a WORD "LIST" with no "." in its name and one of the words in the script is ".LIST" with a "." and it is nowhere else to be found.
    pub LIST
          ON LANLED
        ." 150 Here comes the directory listing" CR
        CON CR REVERSE ." LIST REQUEST " PLAIN CR
        FTPDAT SOCKET CONNECT
        LAN .LIST                                \ Send off the directory listing in compatible format
        DISCONNECT
        FTP SOCKET LAN ." 226 Directory send OK" CR
        ;
    IMMEDIATE
    
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-02-04 14:09
    Yes, Peter, you did say in that thread, that you moved ".LIST" from MULTIFAT to NETWORK. But look again at what you had in NETWORK ... you defined a WORD "LIST" with no "." in its name and one of the words in the script is ".LIST" with a "." and it is nowhere else to be found.
    pub LIST
          ON LANLED
        ." 150 Here comes the directory listing" CR
        CON CR REVERSE ." LIST REQUEST " PLAIN CR
        FTPDAT SOCKET CONNECT
        LAN .LIST                                \ Send off the directory listing in compatible format
        DISCONNECT
        FTP SOCKET LAN ." 226 Directory send OK" CR
        ;
    IMMEDIATE
    

    Yes, LIST is an FTP command and the word .LIST was made for it so that is why it was moved back to NETWORK although .LIST could be used directly there are the DIR and ls words. The move was only done a few days ago, do you have the current versions? I will double check the dropbox versions just to sure.
  • Brian RileyBrian Riley Posts: 626
    edited 2014-02-05 15:31
    OK !!!!!!! I have a good load from the Dropbox files taken less than an HOUR ago.


    Question #1 - I formatted the uSD using SD Format The volume name is TACHYON, Why does MOUNT command say it has no name ??

    QUESTION #2 - Whats with FTP, I thought was working ... enclosed is my FileZilla session log while trying to d/l ROM.BIN

    Status:	Connecting to 10.0.1.107:21...
    Status:	Connection established, waiting for welcome message...
    Response:	220 WELCOME TO THE TACHYON WIZNET FTP SESSION!
    Command:	USER anonymous
    Response:	 --> cUSER <-- NOT FOUND 
    Error:	Could not connect to server
    Status:	Waiting to retry...
    Status:	Connecting to 10.0.1.107:21...
    Status:	Connection established, waiting for welcome message...
    Response:	220 WELCOME TO THE TACHYON WIZNET FTP SESSION!
    Command:	USER anonymous
    Response:	331 User admin OK. Password required
    Command:	PASS **************
    Response:	230 OK. Current restricted directory is /
    Command:	SYST
    Response:	215 Unix Type: L8
    Command:	FEAT
    Response:	211 Features supported
    Status:	Server does not support non-ASCII characters.
    Status:	Connected
    Response:	UTF8
    Response:	211 End
    Status:	Retrieving directory listing...
    Command:	PWD
    Response:	257 "/" is your current location
    Command:	TYPE I
    Response:	200 TYPE is now I
    Command:	PASV
    Response:	227 Entering Passive Mode with port (10,0,1,107,179,240)
    Command:	LIST
    Response:	150 Here comes the directory listing
    Response:	226 Directory send OK
    Status:	Directory listing successful
    Status:	Connecting to 10.0.1.107:21...
    Status:	Connection attempt failed with "ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server".
    Error:	Could not connect to server
    Status:	Delaying connection for 5 seconds due to previously failed connection attempt...
    Status:	Connecting to 10.0.1.107:21...
    Status:	Connection attempt failed with "ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server".
    Error:	Could not connect to server
    Status:	Delaying connection for 5 seconds due to previously failed connection attempt...
    Status:	Connecting to 10.0.1.107:21...
    Status:	Connection attempt failed with "ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server".
    Error:	Could not connect to server
    
    
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-02-05 16:55
    OK !!!!!!! I have a good load from the Dropbox files taken less than an HOUR ago.


    Question #1 - I formatted the uSD using SD Format The volume name is TACHYON, Why does MOUNT command say it has no name ??

    QUESTION #2 - Whats with FTP, I thought was working ... enclosed is my FileZilla session log while trying to d/l ROM.BIN

    There are two names, the oemname and the volume name (and also the FAT name too):
    MOUNT Mounted SD Card
    Media mounted as E2C4.0203 mkdosfs SDL001 FAT32 Cluster size = 4,096 Sectors = 7,744,449 ok
    Here the volume name is SDL001 and it's entry is in the root directory as well as the boot block:
    [FONT=courier new]@ROOT $40 XDUMP                                                                                           
    0076_BE00:   53 44 4C 30  30 31 20 20   20 20 20 08  00 00 67 88   SDL001     ...g.                       
    0076_BE10:   37 44 37 44  00 00 67 88   37 44 00 00  00 00 00 00   7D7D..g.7D......                       
    0076_BE20:   4C 4F 47 30  30 30 38 20   54 58 54 20  00 00 77 88   LOG0008 TXT ..w.                       
    0076_BE30:   37 44 37 44  00 00 29 0B   64 43 03 00  00 00 02 00   7D7D..).dC...... ok                    
    7E00 100 XDUMP                                                                                            
    0000_7E00:   EB 58 90 6D  6B 64 6F 73   66 73 00 00  02 08 20 00   .X.mkdosfs.... .                       
    0000_7E10:   02 00 00 00  00 F8 00 00   10 00 04 00  00 00 00 00   ................                       
    0000_7E20:   C1 2B 76 00  80 1D 00 00   00 00 00 00  02 00 00 00   .+v.............                       
    0000_7E30:   01 00 06 00  00 00 00 00   00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00   ................                       
    0000_7E40:   00 01 29 4A  88 38 EB 53   44 4C 30 30  31 20 20 20   ..)J.8.SDL001                          
    0000_7E50:   20 20 46 41  54 33 32 20   20 20 0E 1F  BE 77 7C AC     FAT32   ...w|.                       
    0000_7E60:   22 C0 74 0B  56 B4 0E BB   07 00 CD 10  5E EB F0 32   ".t.V.......^..2                       
    0000_7E70:   E4 CD 16 CD  19 EB FE 54   68 69 73 20  69 73 20 6E   .......This is n                       
    0000_7E80:   6F 74 20 61  20 62 6F 6F   74 61 62 6C  65 20 64 69   ot a bootable di                       
    0000_7E90:   73 6B 2E 20  20 50 6C 65   61 73 65 20  69 6E 73 65   sk.  Please inse                       
    0000_7EA0:   72 74 20 61  20 62 6F 6F   74 61 62 6C  65 20 66 6C   rt a bootable fl                       
    0000_7EB0:   6F 70 70 79  20 61 6E 64   0D 0A 70 72  65 73 73 20   oppy and..press                        
    0000_7EC0:   61 6E 79 20  6B 65 79 20   74 6F 20 74  72 79 20 61   any key to try a                       
    0000_7ED0:   67 61 69 6E  20 2E 2E 2E   20 0D 0A 00  00 00 00 00   gain ... .......                       
    
    [/FONT]
    
    I think what name gets set depends upon the formatting software that is used.

    As for the FTP server, ahhhem, I had updated the main document with some improvements from my dev copy but it wasn't quite right it seems. There are older versions in dropbox you can used that are zipped up in the backups folder. It may be a day or two until I update the files with a stable version. The changes are mainly to improve client interoperability, speed, connection issues, timeouts etc.

    BTW: the ECONNREFUSED message seems to happen with Filezilla but not with gFTP but it looks like FIleZilla sends out a SYN which is refused because it is already connected. I will have to check this out later but my software did work before.
  • D.PD.P Posts: 790
    edited 2014-02-05 21:57
    This example has me stumped, going through the source trying some stuff out.

    [code]
    ok
    #1234 ok
    <# #S #> ok
    .S
    STACK: 0000.0000 0000.0108 0000.04D2 0000.006B ok
    $6B PRINT$ 1234 ok
    $6B 4 ADO I C@ .DEC LOOP 0049004800520050 ok
    $6B 4 ADO I C@ CR .DEC LOOP
    0048
    0048
    0052
    0050 ok
    "1" .DEC 0049 ok
    "2" .DEC 0050 ok
    "3" .DEC 0051 ok
    "4" .DEC 0052 ok
    ." Houston we have a stack problem?" Houston we have a stack problem? ok
    ." with ADO and I" with ADO and I ok
    TACHYON
    Propeller .:.:--TACHYON--:.:. Forth V23140203.0000
    ok
    0000 LES
    MODULES LOADED:
    1800: EXTEND.fth Primary extensions to TACHYON kernel - 140203-2145
    ok


    [\code]
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2014-02-06 01:53
    D.P wrote: »
    This example has me stumped, going through the source trying some stuff out.

    It's doing exactly what it should, once you went to print out the number pad with .DEC which uses the number pad to print itself (of course) you then went awry.
    last number printed was....0050
    then you did...
    0048....the leading 0 of the 0050 and now the buffer has 0048
    0048....the second 0 of 0048 and now the buffer has 0048
    0052....the third digit 4 of 0048 and now the buffer has 0052
    0050....the fourth digit 2 of 0052

    See, perfect!
  • D.PD.P Posts: 790
    edited 2014-02-07 10:15
    Okay I see what happened above.

    Can you give an example of REV and SPIWR LSB please.

    Thanks,
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