Arduino Vs. Propeller Round 100

Nick McClick · 2012-05-29 13:56

Spotted this little discussion on Reddit; http://www.reddit.com/r/electronics/comments/u9uuo/arduino_vs_parallax_comparison/. Right or wrong, I always like to see propeller discussions in the outside community and thought it was worth passing along to the forums.

erco · 2012-05-29 14:18

Looks like Ken's in there swinging politely!

mindrobots · 2012-05-29 14:30

There certainly are some colorful adjectives being thrown around!!

Is C like American English.....if you speak it loud enough and slow enough, any microcontroller can understand it???

(psst, I've actually heard of people that can write code in MULTIPLE languages and have even been able to learn more than one language!!!)

Ragtop · 2012-05-29 14:44

Some folks become addicted to semi-colons and brackets I guess.

Oldbitcollector (Jeff) · 2012-05-29 15:05

Ragtop wrote: »

Some folks become addicted to semi-colons and brackets I guess.

LOL.. and become hostile if you threaten to take them away..

OBC

Invent-O-Doc · 2012-05-29 15:59

My. What foul mouths. Things are much friendlier here.

Duane Degn · 2012-05-29 16:05

Invent-O-Doc wrote: »

My. What foul mouths. Things are much friendlier here.

Absolutely! That's not even a nice place to visit.

Oldbitcollector (Jeff) · 2012-05-29 16:09

Don't count'em all out.

/r/electronics is generally a decent social network of all kinds of "electronics geeks" with a few strange apples in the bunch. However, Reddit lacks the kind of strong moderation which is standard on these forums. It's gotta be pretty extreme before something achieves [deleted] status.

OBC

jazzed · 2012-05-29 16:12

Fascinating and colorful thread.

xanadu · 2012-05-29 16:29

I'd love to tell him don't buy Parallax Propellers! If you're that closed minded you can't invest $20 to find out for yourself and learn something new then you deserve the fate you bestow upon yourself, and your vulgar reddit trash responses.

I just don't see the mentality behind, 'having something to lose by learning something'. It's stupid and so is the person asking if they buy into everyone's opinion and not have their own opinion. Arrrrgh.

PJAllen · 2012-05-29 17:32

Ragtop wrote: »

Some folks become addicted to semi-colons and brackets I guess.

;{
That's a guy with a handlebar mustache, winking.
I swear.

Martin_H · 2012-05-29 17:58

erco wrote: »

Looks like Ken's in there swinging politely!

I think one post was by Phil Pilgrim as well.

For $25 it's easy and cheap to jump in. Since the documentation and development tools are free. I'll admit that I wasn't that fond of Spin, but warmed up to it. After I learned Python I found it much easier to use.

prof_braino · 2012-05-29 19:17

Just from looking at the one thread, it seems there is a bunch of cranky guys on that forum. Very quick to slam one and other. In fact a noticeable portion of the civil posts are from folks I recognize from this forum.

Doesn't make me jump to join that community. Makes me appreciate that half the fun of the prop is this forum and its people.

ElectricAye · 2012-05-29 19:46

mindrobots wrote: »

...

Is C like American English.....

Call me depressive, but I'm always bummed out when any sort of task makes me begin by using the word void.

mindrobots · 2012-05-29 19:51

...I think declaring your main function void is frowned upon, you should end main() with a return.....but I'll let the C standards folk comment on that....

I must have led a sheltered 52 years or run with more genteel crowd but do the younger generations really speak/write that way in day to day conversation?

Peter KG6LSE · 2012-05-29 20:47

ElectricAye wrote: »

Call me depressive, but I'm always bummed out when any sort of task makes me begin by using the word void.

AMen to this !

I cant grasp why called VOID any ways ..

xanadu · 2012-05-29 20:50

It doesn't return a value, so it is void.

Ken Gracey · 2012-05-29 21:03

Invent-O-Doc wrote: »

My. What foul mouths. Things are much friendlier here.

That's right. You guys keep it clean because we welcome children on these forums. The language nastiness on that reddit thread says something on it's own. Like Bill Chennault (is that the right guy?) says "you are what you write". I kinda hope it's not true for that particular individual, wanting to give everybody the benefit of doubt.

Ken Gracey

ElectricAye · 2012-05-29 21:11

xanadu wrote: »

It doesn't return a value, so it is void.

But being forced to C the void, isn't it all so pointless?

Oldbitcollector (Jeff) · 2012-05-29 21:14

It's healthy for us to see what the outside perceptions are when trying to introduce others to the Propeller.
(I can navigate the rough seas for that kind of information. It's useful.)

OBC

rwgast_logicdesign · 2012-05-29 23:11

Hmmm, I have not read the reddit thing so I have no input there. Will probably save it as a bedtime story for tonight.

I just wanted to put my 2 cents in as far as void main goes in C. I have always been taught the proper way is to declare main as an integer, i.e int main() and then return 0 at the end if nothing needs to be returned. The reason for declaring main as an int is mostly for error checking. I.e if my code returns a 2 on exit I know that it ended abnormally based on whatever error 2 may be..

msrobots · 2012-05-29 23:44

well a DOS Program returns a value usable in Batch-Files as ERRORLEVEL or so... so main should return an int.

Enjoy!

Mike

xanadu · 2012-05-30 00:03

msrobots wrote: »

well a DOS Program returns a value usable in Batch-Files as ERRORLEVEL or so... so main should return an int.

Enjoy!

Mike

Mmm I still use that lol works great to set a system variable-

@echo off
cls
ECHO Please select your user name/location to set the printing environment.

ECHO  (1) Main Office Doctors
ECHO  (2) Front Desk
ECHO  (3) Office 1
ECHO  (4) Business Office
ECHO  (5) Rita
ECHO  (6) Rose
ECHO  (7) Lisa
ECHO  (8) Dr. Office
ECHO  (9) Checkout

CHOICE /C:123456789 /M "Please choose the user name/location, Ctrl-C to quit "

if errorlevel 255 goto error
if errorlevel 9 goto ninth
if errorlevel 8 goto eighth
if errorlevel 7 goto seventh
if errorlevel 6 goto sixth
if errorlevel 5 goto fifth
if errorlevel 4 goto fourth
if errorlevel 3 goto third
if errorlevel 2 goto second
if errorlevel 1 goto first

:error
echo Error or Break
goto end

:ninth
SET PP_PRINT=PLUTO
goto end

:eighth
SET PP_PRINT=GROSS
goto end

:seventh
SET PP_PRINT=LISA
goto end

:sixth
SET PP_PRINT=DIANE
goto end

:fifth
SET PP_PRINT=RITA
goto end

:fourth
SET PP_PRINT=TRIAGE
goto end

:third
SET PP_PRINT=WELLCARE
goto end

:second
SET PP_PRINT=FRONTD
goto end

:first
SET PP_PRINT=MAINDOCS
goto end

:end
"D:\Program Files(x86)\McKesson\Practice Partner\Updater\PMSI.Installer.Updater.AppStart.exe" "D:\Program Files(x86)\McKesson\Practice Partner\mbwin.exe

rwgast_logicdesign · 2012-05-30 01:08

well ya learn somethin new everday! while writing my reply i was thinking in linux u can pull mains return out of the io pipe but wondered how to catch mains return in dos.. cool trick.

Nick McClick · 2012-05-30 01:15

Personally, I believe in showing what the Propeller can do instead of arguing the merits / demerits of any particular chip.

Re: Reddit - I've found reddit to be no worse than an average Internet forum. The Parallax forums are significantly more civil than average.

Arduino Vs. Propeller Round 100

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