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How do you clean your workbench?

Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
edited 2012-05-07 07:29 in General Discussion
Yesterday I began an approximately biennial ritual: cleaning my workbench. This takes place whenever things that I need become too buried in the strata to locate, and it's always fun to find things that I forgot I owned or had even replaced with a duplicate. After putting away the big items, plus connectors, fasteners, etc., here's the pile I'm left with, an assortment of resistors, caps, diodes, and other semiconductor flotsam:

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So I'm wondering how other foumistas deal with something like this. I've identifed three possible approaches:
  • Lost Puppy Method: Pick up an item, identify it, and put it where it belongs.
  • Where's Waldo? Method: Open a drawer of parts and find all instances of them in the pile.
  • Heap Sort: Separate the mess into piles of similar items. Then use either the Lost Puppy or Where's Waldo? method, or recurse on the Heap Sort.
I tend to use the Heap Sort, followed by Where's Waldo?, but that requires good eyesight. As one's vision becomes less reliable with age (who, me?), the Lost Puppy method allows closer inspection of each item.

So what's your technique? (If you keep a tidy workbench in the course of your work, I seriously do not want to hear about it! Such behavior is unnatural, and you should seek counseling.)

-Phil
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  • RobotWorkshopRobotWorkshop Posts: 2,307
    edited 2012-05-03 11:16
    Hello Phil,

    I've found that for small parts it can help to have a sorting tray like this:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/GEMSTONE-SORTING-TRAY-PLASTIC-NEW-/200484793907

    You can just scoop up all the parts in the tray and then sort them as you drag them off the tray and drop them in the appropriate bin or container. There are also many other styles of these trays and they can help a lot. I have one in bright yellow that I find very helpful when looking for screws. I have several jars of recycled screws and that I can dump in one of these trays and then when done can just use the tray to just pour them back into each jar.

    Robert
  • Martin_HMartin_H Posts: 4,051
    edited 2012-05-03 11:25
    Generally I use heap sort coupled with the lost puppy method. Although to my shame I sometimes defer the lost puppy phase and put the whole heap in plastic bag for future processing.

    Your list is missing a technique I occasionally employ called "Build a New Workbench". It's a get out of jail free card until that bench becomes full of clutter.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2012-05-03 11:26
    What is this "clean your workbench" thing? That's indicative of some deep (biennial) disorder. I put the house on the market and move. Hopefully the new owner can grow an interest in electronics...or archaeology! :lol:

    If it comes as a spousal decree, I tend toward heap sorting the lost puppies.
  • dmagnusdmagnus Posts: 271
    edited 2012-05-03 11:32
    Yea, I agree. Sounds like CDO (that's like OCD, but the letters are in the right order).
  • jdoleckijdolecki Posts: 726
    edited 2012-05-03 11:41
    Phil If I remember correctly your robot has an arm make him do it!
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2012-05-03 11:44
    When I scrub a project I'm always left with that little layer of components too.

    [video=youtube_share;ysFnNrQF0oY]
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2012-05-03 11:47
    Brilliant!! If your can make that an add-on kit for a BOE-Bot, you'll be able to sell bunches, just on the Forum!!
  • Spiral_72Spiral_72 Posts: 791
    edited 2012-05-03 11:50
    It all gets scooped in a small shallow container which I force myself to pick through building the next project. If I can't find it in the table scoop items, then I pull a new one out of the organized drawers.

    It works fairly well. The container stays about 50% full unless I'm stumped on a project, need to take a mental break and put stuff away. The trick is to use a container large enough so that most stuff is on the bottom, yet small enough that it doesn't get out of hand and shallow so it's not a problem to pick up stuff. A cookie sheet would be a really bad idea, a tupperware lid is just about right.
  • RobotWorkshopRobotWorkshop Posts: 2,307
    edited 2012-05-03 11:58
    Looks like that would be a great job for a SUMO bot and program it to clear off all the spare parts.
  • BrowserBrowser Posts: 84
    edited 2012-05-03 12:06
    i jump on bench, push stuf on floor. problum solvd.

    -browz
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2012-05-03 12:16
    Stratigraphic organization systems preclude cleaning of any kind and provide historical contextual information that would otherwise be lost to future archeologists.

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  • frank freedmanfrank freedman Posts: 1,983
    edited 2012-05-03 16:46
    My personal preferrence is a parallel bidirectional bubble sort where what I want can usually rise to the surface while that which is not needed gradually sinks below the strata until needed.....

    FF
  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,568
    edited 2012-05-03 19:09
    xanadu,

    That's great, but next time you try to RMA a component back to Parallax because it's broken, we'll just refer you to the video that you posted. :smile: ... just joking, but my nine year old daughter just saw that and the first thing she said was "Oh my gosh, he's really lazy... he's making his robot clean his desk when he should be doing it" ... <- That's my girl :smile:

    BTW) I use Heap Sort ...

    All caps
    All Resistors
    All Wire
    All transistors/IC's
    All Diodes/LEDs
    All Misc
    All Trash

    Then I go through each group and assess it again (Lost Puppy), restocking my parts bin where applicable ... seems to be the best approach
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2012-05-03 19:25
    ...
    Then I go through each group and asses it again...

    Interesting sort!

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  • Bob Lawrence (VE1RLL)Bob Lawrence (VE1RLL) Posts: 1,720
    edited 2012-05-03 19:47
    Jim Williams kept things organized
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  • T ChapT Chap Posts: 4,223
    edited 2012-05-03 20:10
    Grab the IC's, molex crimp pins, and large caps, and either put them back where they came from or put them in a catch all area. Trash the rest. Cost of doing business. Your time is worth more that $5 worth of passives and leds.
  • Peter KG6LSEPeter KG6LSE Posts: 1,383
    edited 2012-05-03 23:32
    If my bench has more then half empty space its due to the following reassons .

    1) I have a lady over or a guest
    2) Oh crud my mom is gonna fly in and visit me better look normal .
    3) I am gone for a week and want to make my place look good when I return
    4) last bit not least .. I cant find anything any more . so a 2H sub routine called :CLEAN is ran after that I return to my normal program.



    as far as parts

    I do a clean sweep every night .
    all resistors
    electrolytic caps
    other caps .
    diode
    transistor
    any IC
    Plugs DC
    all other plugs
    any LED
    any Pot or varCAP or the like
    small Xfmrs
    Inductors
    this is SO easy to sort and its very effective

    Mind 90% of my parts are From old PCBs so I have to sort any ways .

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    Some day Ill add LED strip lights under the shelf for task lighting .

    "" So what's your technique? (If you keep a tidy workbench in the course of your work, I seriously do not want to hear about it! Such behavior is unnatural, and you should seek counseling.)"""

    sadly I feed on chaos .. Yet I keep a some what nice place .. As I have to be open to take on any thing that comes in the door .

    this past week I had a UW ROV on the desk being programmed and wired .


    Peter
  • idbruceidbruce Posts: 6,197
    edited 2012-05-04 01:42
    Phil

    A messy workspace is truly the sign of a creative person.

    In my opinion, your time is more valuable than the grief and frustration that a creative person would suffer by sorting through such a mess to save a few bucks.

    In your particular instance, I would take some hi-res and close up photos of the affected work area, and then shove all the parts into a bag for "Phil's Biennial Electronics Grab Bag Auction". At which point, I would then move onto the next creative project.

    Bruce
  • Dr_AculaDr_Acula Posts: 5,484
    edited 2012-05-04 04:12
    I'm moving into a bigger shed :) That will make me tidy everything up. I'm buying some more parts drawers in anticipation.

    The shed builder seems to know what I want before I say it. He says I need a "Man Cave". With half the shed lined, an internal door, a large bench space, windows, 3 phase power, water, rainwater tank, sink, mezzanine floor for storage and a secret hidey hole in the floor for spare gold bullion etc.

    Heck, I just walked into the shed showroom intending to buy a cheap garden toolshed...
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2012-05-04 05:00
    I like the "hidey hole" idea, it's always such a hassle moving the piles of gold around so there's an extra place to sit when friends drop by!
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2012-05-04 05:25
    I just think about building things, that keeps the workbench neat and clean so I can eat lunch and do other things. It is the other side of the room where I keep all the parts on hand that is a mess.
  • average joeaverage joe Posts: 795
    edited 2012-05-04 05:36
    Cleaning my workbench is never that difficult. Mostly because my workbench never gets that cluttered. This is because my "workbench" is the kitchen table. That will be changing when we move into our new house.
    As far as sorting goes, I usually pick out the ICs, throw them in a container and throw everything else into another container. I sort ICs when I end up needing one and the rest ends up in plastic bags that I sort when I'm really bored.
    I can't say I use a particular sorting method all the time but it's usually a group sort, followed by lost puppy, followed by garbage!
  • JordanCClarkJordanCClark Posts: 198
    edited 2012-05-04 05:45
    I use the handy-dandy "miscellaneous" drawers along with the "to sort" drawer-- which usually ends up being the "toss away" drawer...
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  • piguy101piguy101 Posts: 248
    edited 2012-05-05 13:17
    What is the the top row, four over drawer?
  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2012-05-05 16:01
    I disagree with the statement "to be creative you have to be messy." So, I keep my work area clean, and make sure that at the end of the day everything is put away. Of course, I think I'm the only one here who lives where they work, so that may have something to do with it as well.

    I use one of two methods to clean: put away larger pieces where they belong, and move small components to a "to sort" box. That box then gets pulled out whenever I watch a movie, and I sort through it during that time.

    I never really believed the statement that "my time is so valuable I can't be bothered to do X", whatever X may be. Those who say such things inevitably spend some time doing something with no profit margin. I find cleaning therapeutic, so I do that.
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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2012-05-05 16:07
    Cody,

    I'm not saying that an intervention is in order; but I would be happy to offer you an hour of free counseling, should you ever visit Port Townsend, and start you on a twelve-step program of entropy enhancement. :)

    -Phil
  • potatoheadpotatohead Posts: 10,261
    edited 2012-05-05 16:39
    "entropy enhancement"

    Nice!! I think I may put that on a bumper sticker: "Seek Entropy Enhancement"
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2012-05-05 17:50
    Enlightenment Through Entropy Enhancement

    Being one with many and many with one.

    Negentropy – a shorthand colloquial phrase for negative entropy. (About as popular as the Un-cola)

    Entropology – the study or discussion of entropy <- Sadly, they didn't offer this when I went to school!!
  • W9GFOW9GFO Posts: 4,010
    edited 2012-05-05 18:02
    My work area is usually moderately messy. As the disorder increases, so does my frustration level and my motivation goes down. To get motivated again, I need to create a clean and (somewhat) organized work area.
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2012-05-05 19:18
    SRLM wrote: »

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    I see a lot of crud behind the main monitor, including a Dr. Demento hat. You can't fool us.

    -- Gordon
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