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Fun at the Orthopedist's

Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
edited 2012-04-17 21:48 in General Discussion
Today I went to the orthopedist again to have my fractured foot x-rayed to see if there's been any progress at healing. They've got a really high-tech x-ray set-up: no film, everything is digital. Film packs have been replaced with an x-ray-sensitive tablet that works like film, except that the image is transmitted directly to a PC in the ante-room. One of the interesting facets of this arrangement is that multiple exposures can be taken without having to change film packets. This means that multiple images can be obtained from slightly different angles without disturbing the overall position of the subject on the tablet.

To me, this immediately suggested 3D. Take an image at two slightly different angles and use the two images to create a 3D anaglyph that can be viewed with red-green or red-blue glasses. In my case, three images have been taken each time I visit: a plan view, a profile view, and an oblique view. This time I convinced the x-ray tech to take two oblique-view images, between which I would lean my foot at a slightly different angle. She was totally into it and agreed readily. Here's the resulting anaglyph that I produced from the CDROM obtained from the clinic and which can be viewed with 3D glasses:

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Although I'm sure that skilled radiologists do not need the extra dimension to analyze x-ray images, it gave me a new perspective on the overall shape of things. BTW, although the fracture still looks like a clean break, I was assured that there is new growth spanning the gap. It just takes time and, fortunately, I'm free to engage in most of the activities that I enjoy without restriction.

Who knew that a trip to the doc could have its geeky upside? :)

-Phil

P.S. If your 3D glasses have red on the left and blue on the right, you will see an image that looks like the top of a left foot, which is correct. Reversing those two filters will yield an image that looks like the bottom of a right foot.
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Comments

  • davejamesdavejames Posts: 4,047
    edited 2012-04-16 23:05
    ...gotta ask - how'd you break it?

    OUCH!
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2012-04-16 23:12
    They assured me that the alligator was tame. "Ol' Ben, he ain't never hurt nobody. Go ahead 'n' stick yer foot in there."

    -Phil
  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,568
    edited 2012-04-16 23:44
    WOW!.... when did that happen? Sometimes with a delayed union fracture like that, it requires a pin or two for proper healing. You got a second opinion right?
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2012-04-17 00:27
    when did that happen?
    Seven weeks ago.
    You got a second opinion right?
    Yes, a friend of mine said he could fix it by lashing the two halves together with dissolving suture material. 'Gave me my choice of whiskey for the anesthetic, too!
    _______

    Seriously, though, at this scale the growth that's beginning to span the gap does not show up, but it's there in the full-size image. It's just not very dense yet and won't achieve full fill and hard calcification for another 6 to 9 months. Meanwhile, there's no discomfort, and the only activities I have to avoid are impact sports, like running.

    -Phil
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2012-04-17 01:08
    Sorry Phil! I've had broken feet before and it seems like they take forever to heal. good to hear you're mending!

    Very nifty experiment! Way to use that adult onset A D D - I think my daughter has some red/blue 3d glasses someplace.
  • GadgetmanGadgetman Posts: 2,436
    edited 2012-04-17 03:39
    You did give the radiologist a copy of the finished picture, right?

    They might want to hang it on a wall together with some glasses.
    Fun for the kids and all that...
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2012-04-17 06:39
    Let me beat bruce to the conversation and suggest that you patent using simple red-blue glasses for viewing 3D projections of X-rays.

    This is novel, and over looked by the med community, since this is not already available at every x-ray station in the world.

    Just printing the glasses for the doctor to give away at each session would make millions. (from revenues for ads printed on the glasses).

    Thank me later when you are rich(er than you are now).
  • Ron CzapalaRon Czapala Posts: 2,418
    edited 2012-04-17 06:45
    They assured me that the alligator was tame. "Ol' Ben, he ain't never hurt nobody. Go ahead 'n' stick yer foot in there."

    -Phil

    Ha! I'll bet your significant other stomped on your foot 'cause you spend too much at the Parallax store! :smile:
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2012-04-17 08:35
    Phil, if you can't fix it feature it! Own that injury! Work it! A supply of printed xray analglyphs & red/blue glasses would have made you the IT guy at Expo, with a long line of kiddies waiting for you to autograph your xray, you Rock Star you.

    Heck, I even want one, you x-ray technician-sweet-talking devil.
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2012-04-17 09:06
    Ha! I'll bet your significant other stomped on your foot 'cause you spend too much at the Parallax store! :smile:

    I don't think Browser has enough mass to inflict such a wound :)

    Jim
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2012-04-17 18:23
    By Jove, is that a metatarsus primus varus I see?
  • Martin_HMartin_H Posts: 4,051
    edited 2012-04-17 19:13
    That was a neat idea, but now I need to find a pair of those 3D glasses.
  • PJAllenPJAllen Banned Posts: 5,065
    edited 2012-04-17 20:05
    What did you use to merge the two images with?

    Looks like you really stubbed that second toe good. What's going on there?

    PS
    Is the red-blue orientation right? The standard is the red lens on the (observer's) left eye.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2012-04-17 20:16
    PJ,

    I used Corel PhotoPaint. The left and right images were converted to grayscale, then the right image was duplicated, leaving three images. These were then recombined as RGB channels of the same image (i.e. red and green+blue = cyan). After that step I rotated the result a bit to make sure the L/R offset was mostly horizontal, since I had misaligned the images a little vertically.

    The second toe thing is called "hammer toe", an inherited trait, according to the orthopedist, and not due to injury or ill-fitting shoes as many believe.

    -Phil
  • bee_manbee_man Posts: 109
    edited 2012-04-17 21:16
    The second toe thing is called "hammer toe"

    That would be a "mallet toe" my day job is a Podiatrist

    I wish I had some 3D glasses to view that X-Ray, very cool idea except for the extra rads.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2012-04-17 21:48
    bee_man wrote:
    ...very cool idea except for the extra rads.
    The claim I heard for digital dental x-rays was 1/10 of the dose required by film. I don't know how that translates to larger formats, though.

    Thanks, BTW, for correcting my terminology. :)

    -Phil
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