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One question to identify which generation a computer geek is from.

JohnGayJohnGay Posts: 57
edited 2012-03-30 13:46 in General Discussion
What does RPG stand for?

(Answers will be posted later ;)

Figured most people here would be familiar with the older definition.

RPG == Rocket Propelled Grenade.
Probably think Video games started with First-Person shooters. Don't know why there are 8-bit bytes. Normally jsut Script-Kiddies.
RPG == Role Playing Game
Remember when computers were only 8 bit. Know what it means to die of dysentary. Probably learned Basic as a first language.
RPG == Rapidly Produced Garbage or Report Program Generator
Knows how to program in collumns. Has wept over a dropped stack of cards. Probably even knows how to butterfly punched papertape.

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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2012-03-30 07:42
    I'm sorry to say that I know the answer to that one -- the answer that dates me, I'm afraid. I never used it, though. Real Men used Fortran!

    -Phil
  • Mike2545Mike2545 Posts: 433
    edited 2012-03-30 07:43
    RPG Role Playing Game(s)
    RPG Rocket-Propelled Grenade
    RPG Rocket-Powered Grenade
    RPG Rebounds Per Game (basketball statistic)
    RPG Report Program Generator
    RPG Report Generator
    RPG Regional Planning Guidance
    RPG Rassemblement du Peuple de Guin
  • schillschill Posts: 741
    edited 2012-03-30 07:47
    I can only think of 3 off the top of my head. I've only dealt with one of them. And two of them were originally created before I was born - the third has probably been around forever but not called RPG until after I was born.

    I'm pretty sure that one of them is the one that Phil is talking about. And I started out with Fortran.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2012-03-30 07:51
    Remotely Piloted Girlfriend

    (Comes in handy when you need something picked up at Radio Shack.)
  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,568
    edited 2012-03-30 07:53
    RPG - Report Program Generator .... I only remember this because I did a book report in my 1984 computer science class. :-)
  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2012-03-30 08:07
    I know it dates me, but you might guess from my avatar. I actually wrote an RPG (Report Program Generator) program once that ran on an IBM1401 for a contract job in college. It was an awful experience, much worse than writing Fortran programs for an IBM1620. Ahh! Punch cards and punch card chad ... the noise ... whomp, whomp, whomp. The BLAT! of the printer hammers as they cut through the paper because someone tried over-printing ... usually by accident. The only thing more interesting was watching the Univac I in the next room spin its tape drives ... loaded with metal tape ... occasionally would break. You had to clear the vacuum servo channels with heavy leather gloves to keep from getting sliced up from the razor sharp fragments. When the magic smoke got let out, there was sometimes a lot of it and it would definitely set off the fire alarms.

    The Univac I was in the other side of this computer room.
  • Ron CzapalaRon Czapala Posts: 2,418
    edited 2012-03-30 08:20
    I think I wrote 1 or 2 RPG programs when I started programming for GE in 1973. I know my boss used it quite a bit for quick and dirty reports back then...

    He programmed on the first UNIVAC computer sold to a business at GE's Appliance Park here in Louisville in 1954. He had some great stories.

    I was summer intern there in 1972 and learned COBOL on GE 400 computers and later on a Honeywell 6000.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2012-03-30 08:41
    Ahhhh RPG (actually RPG-II) with its cute little 96 column cards and its beloved program cycles. learn 'em, live 'em, love 'em!!

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  • User NameUser Name Posts: 1,451
    edited 2012-03-30 08:43
    @Mike: Really cool! Did you ever meet Donald Knuth?
  • schillschill Posts: 741
    edited 2012-03-30 08:59
    Mike Green wrote: »
    Ahh! Punch cards and punch card chad ... the noise ... whomp, whomp, whomp. The BLAT! of the printer hammers as they cut through the paper because someone tried over-printing ... usually by accident.

    No RPG programming for me, but I did learn Fortran (and to type) with punched cards. I was a kid between 7th and 8th grade at the time.
  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2012-03-30 09:06
    @User Name: No. I was at Case from 1964 to 1966, then from 1971 to 1976.
  • Ron CzapalaRon Czapala Posts: 2,418
    edited 2012-03-30 09:15
    When I started a GE, there were no disk drives.

    Each GE 400 computer had 12 tape drives. Data and programs were loaded onto tapes from punched cards and reports were printed off-line from output tapes.

    Creating a program involved writing the program on coding forms.
    Those were sent to Building 1 via interoffice mail.
    Keypunchers punched out your source code deck.
    Job control cards were added and the program was sent to the computer room to be compiled.
    The program listing and source code deck were mailed back to you for changes and error correction.
    If you dropped your card deck, you could have a big problem :smile: - there were sequence numbers in the original deck but usually not in the modified source...

    You were lucky to get two compiles per day - unless you wanted to walk the cards down to Building1 yourself. I was in Building 4 (a fifteen minute walk).
    Appliance Park was a 1,000-acre facility that employed over 20,000 people back then.
  • MicrocontrolledMicrocontrolled Posts: 2,461
    edited 2012-03-30 13:18
    For me, RPG instantly brings to mine Role Playing Game, but I was not alive when computers were only 8-bit. :)
    BTW, you would be amazed at the amount of programmers that have no idea why there are 8-bit bytes.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2012-03-30 13:23
    ...there are even fewer programmers that admit to using 6 bit field data characters in a 36 bit word or when quarter-word mode came around to let you 9 bits to support 8 bit ASCII!
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2012-03-30 13:25
    My first programming courses right out of High School where RPG and COBOL. Never found a job using RPG, so all I remember is the name. :)
  • ajwardajward Posts: 1,130
    edited 2012-03-30 13:46
    I started learning RPG on an old IBM System 32 picked up when the phone company upgraded. 'Twas a fun machine...

    @
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