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FREE 74HCT4351 to anyone who will use it for a cool idea

pedwardpedward Posts: 1,642
edited 2012-01-18 09:05 in Propeller 1
I have a couple of reels of 74hct4351 8 way analog multiplexers. I will send 10 chips via USPS to anyone who comes up with a cool use, and will use them. The datasheet is attached.

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  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2012-01-17 16:03
    Make an 8 channel ADC with a single sigma-delta Propeller circuit - 5 total Propeller pins used. Eight sigma-delta propeller ADCs would use up 16 pins. High speed per channel (depends on resolution). Lower cost than using MCP3208.

    Not looking for free hardware. I have enough stuff already.
  • pedwardpedward Posts: 1,642
    edited 2012-01-17 16:21
    Yeah, I was looking at these and thought they could be useful in that manner, especially with one project on the forum right now.

    The propeller can do 2 channels with 3 pins, so 4 COGs and 12 pins for straight S~D ADC, but certainly not efficient.

    The HCT can run up to 10vdc and the Vee input is the analog ground, so you could run +-5vdc into these. They will run from 2 to 10v, so they are 3.3v compliant.

    The /LE pin latches an input, otherwise it's transparent, this has the benefit of both being transparent and allowing you to snapshot an analog value and oversample it.

    I was also thinking you could make a Logic analyzer with this, connect and sequence through all of the pins at high speed. You could use 2 timers, 1 to drive the selector through a 3 bit counter, then the other to gate the data input. You would use the same method Kurenoko(sp?) used in his 20Mbps (14Mbps) serial data comms.

    If you had 4, you could sample 32 bits at > 10Mhz, but where to store the data???

    Since these are bidirectional, you could also use it to fanout data on 8 lines from 1 input...or to inject data onto a bus.
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    edited 2012-01-17 17:55
    pedward wrote: »
    The /LE pin latches an input, otherwise it's transparent, this has the benefit of both being transparent and allowing you to snapshot an analog value and oversample it.
    I don't think this is correct as there does not seem to be any circuitry to implement the sample and hold function in the chip.

    The 74HCT4351 requires a 5V supply.

    A good application for this chip(s) could be in touch sense pads on a pcb.

    I have too many projects on the go now to do anything but this app note may help someone http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/AppNotes/01102a.pdf
  • pedwardpedward Posts: 1,642
    edited 2012-01-17 17:57
    Cluso99 wrote: »
    I don't think this is correct as there does not seem to be any circuitry to implement the sample and hold function in the chip.

    The 74HCT4351 requires a 5V supply.

    A good application for this chip(s) could be in touch sense pads on a pcb.

    I have too many projects on the go now to do anything but this app note may help someone http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/AppNotes/01102a.pdf

    Shoot me, HC is 2-10v and HCT is 4.5-5.5v with a Vcc-Vee up to 10v. Anyway it would still work with the Prop.

    The /LE pin is the Latch enable for latching the result on the common pin. when /LE is not latched the common pin sees the selected input in realtime.
    The data at the select inputs may be latched by using the active LOW latch enable input (LE). When LE is HIGH the latch is transparent.

    Am I not understanding the Datasheet correctly?
  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2012-01-17 22:00
    pedward wrote: »
    The /LE pin is the Latch enable for latching the result on the common pin. when /LE is not latched the common pin sees the selected input in realtime.

    Latch Enable manages the selected channel, not the voltage on the channel. When /LE is low (and enables properly set), any change on the Mux Select S[0:2] will not affect the selected I/O. Selected I/O can only be changed when /LE is high. See notes on page 4.
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2012-01-18 09:05
    jazzed wrote: »
    Make an 8 channel ADC with a single sigma-delta Propeller circuit - 5 total Propeller pins used. Eight sigma-delta propeller ADCs would use up 16 pins. High speed per channel (depends on resolution). Lower cost than using MCP3208.

    Not looking for free hardware. I have enough stuff already.

    The S2 uses two 8 channel muliplexers to measure voltages on 16 lines. I think one of the multiplexers has an inverter on the enable pin so when one chip is enabled the other one is off. So you get double the channels at the cost of one additional Prop pin.
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