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Basic Soldering Question

T-BoneT-Bone Posts: 17
edited 2012-01-09 11:16 in Propeller 1
I'm getting ready to wire up my first proto board. Does anyone have a link to a good tutorial for soldering proto boards? I'd like guidance on the basics: solder type, soldering temperature, should I use flux, tips for running wires above and below, etc. Thanks

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  • ThricThric Posts: 109
    edited 2012-01-06 15:48
    Well I've never soldered to a protoboard before, but I can't imagine that its all that different from soldering through-hole components. I'll try and give my 2 cents worth:

    Solder Type:
    As far as I know there are two solder types: leaded and lead free. And then these come in different sizes. I use leaded as the melting temperature is a bit lower than lead free and because my boards don't need to be ROHS compliant.

    Soldering Temperature:
    I use 300 degrees Celsius, because it works fine with my leaded solder and I try to minimize the maximum heat that my components face. I solder SMD which are allot more sensitive than wires would be :P .

    Flux:
    For SMD flux is a must, but with through hole you can get away without it because of the flux core present in solder. If you SMD I've heard alot about flux paste, but I just use a simple flux pen.

    Other:
    I would recommend both rubbing alcohol and a good brush to help clean your board from flux residue. Again this is more for SMD but should also be done for through hole parts as flux is fairly corrosive if left on the PCB.

    I started with the Sparkfun tutorials on how to solder. Here is there Soldering 101 http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/213
    They have plenty of others such as hot air soldering, smd soldering, skillet re-flow etc. I highly recommend their tutorials, very informative.
  • Bob Lawrence (VE1RLL)Bob Lawrence (VE1RLL) Posts: 1,720
    edited 2012-01-06 16:44
    Here's additional info:

    http://www.epemag.wimborne.co.uk/solderfaq.htm

    Good luck!!

    :smile:
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2012-01-06 16:47
    Lots of good information on YouTube.

    Do a search for "Basic Soldering" or "Basic Soldering Techniques" and you will a a couple of hours enjoyment.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2012-01-06 19:32
    For cleaning flux, I recommend high-test isopropyl alcohol (99%), available at most pharmacies, as opposed to rubbing alcohol, which is 30% water. Use an old toothbrush soaked in it to scrub the flux away.

    -Phil
  • JonnyMacJonnyMac Posts: 9,198
    edited 2012-01-06 19:37
    If you have a big make-up supply store in your area check there for 99% alcohol; it's generally better quality and much lower price that what you might find in pharmacy. As Phil points out, some alcohol and an old toothbrush will get you sorted.
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2012-01-06 19:39
    T-Bone,

    One site I found very helpful in learning how to solder and to use various electronic connectors was NASA's Workmanship Standards. I learned a lot about the right way to do things and what the various components are called and how they are used.

    Make sure and look at Section 6.15 about soldering wire.

    One thing I learned from the NASA site that I have found very useful, was their requirement that heat-shrink tubing be transparent. After using transparent heat-shrink for a while I wondered how I every got along without it.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2012-01-06 22:07
    Duane Degn wrote:
    After using transparent heat-shrink for a while I wondered how I every got along without it.
    I thought the main purpose of heatshrink tubing was to hide one's sins, not to showcase them. :)

    -Phil
  • kolyurkolyur Posts: 43
    edited 2012-01-07 07:17
    After trying a variety of different types of solder, my preference for general purpose soldering has become MG Chemicals 63/37 No-Clean. Digi-Key carries it in a "Pocket Pak" which I've found to be really handy because you can easily hold the whole thing in one hand while you have the iron in the other. (No pun intended. Really.) It leaves a slight amount of flux residue but I don't find it necessary to clean the board afterwards.

    http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?x=0&y=0&lang=en&site=us&KeyWords=473-1107-ND
  • EmptyBitEmptyBit Posts: 72
    edited 2012-01-07 11:49
    One of the most common faults in learning good soldering techniques is keeping the soldering iron tip clean from oxides and wet with good tinning. This helps with thermal transfer and rapid solder flow. A moist sponge or brillow pad is handy for cleaning the tip periodically.

    Minimizing heat to the components, I use a count of 3 seconds at each point. If not done in that time, let it cool and try again after you've assessed the problem by cleaning the tip or removing oxides from the component leads. The desired shape of a solder joint is a fillet, not a bead. With a little experience, you can read the materials and what went wrong.

    Another handy device to have at the ready is a solder sucker. I prefer the hot iron type. I use mine for anything from scrounging components, connetors and such from old boards, repair projects and the occasional mis-oriented component on a new project. Solder happens? :D

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  • T-BoneT-Bone Posts: 17
    edited 2012-01-07 14:26
    Thanks all. I am finding the NASA and Sparkfun links most helpful. Cheers!
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2012-01-07 14:48
    Empty Bit,

    Very good point about cleanliness when soldering. The items to be soldered must be clean, bright and oxide free, generally true when using new components but if they have aged and become corded they will not solder well. Best to brighten them up a bit.

    The soldering iron tip should be kept shiny by wiping on a moist sponge as you say BUT use a real sponge not a plastic one!

    So here is a tip: Whilst you are in the big make-up supply store picking up the alcohol they will also have those sponges girls use to remove makeup. Those sponges are the real thing and perfect for use when soldering.
  • LawsonLawson Posts: 870
    edited 2012-01-07 18:06
    Whenever I've used alcohol to clean off rosin flux I either have to use quarts of it for the final rinse, or I have a thin flux residue left over after the alcohol dries. I've recently found that "Zep", Rubbermaid "Concentrated Orange", and other full strength orange oil cleaners work excellently. (look for a flamability warning on the label and a STRONG orange smell upon opening) A scrub with a tooth brush soaked with undiluted orange oil followed by a water rinse is enough. Alcohol does seem to better break up any large solid chunks of flux, so I'll still use it for a first cleaning step. (the orange oil also works on anything remotely oily, like... rubber cement and latex paint.)

    Lawson
  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2012-01-07 19:23
    I scrub boards with 99% iso-propyl alcohol. It's very effective and economical.
  • frank freedmanfrank freedman Posts: 1,983
    edited 2012-01-07 20:17
    T-Bone wrote: »
    I'm getting ready to wire up my first proto board. Does anyone have a link to a good tutorial for soldering proto boards? I'd like guidance on the basics: solder type, soldering temperature, should I use flux, tips for running wires above and below, etc. Thanks

    First proto board huh? Based on experience, I would make only one minor recommendation. Solder your passives and any transistors/crystals/FETs etc to dip headers and then wire-wrap the initial project. With a little planning, you can get some pretty good work done, and the rework (again experience) will be much easier. To bad that I can not find the equivalent of an old CPM program I had called WireMaster. input the nodes, out came a wrap list organized by sizes, and best of all structured so that only three wires at most would need to be lifted to replace one of them. Wrap tools are not cheap new, but go on EBAY etc. When my Gardner-Denver cut, strip, wrap gun fried I replaced it for about 50.00 on ebay. Looked to be an escape from some telco .....



    Frank
  • EmptyBitEmptyBit Posts: 72
    edited 2012-01-07 20:19
    Fair omitted detail Heater.

    Sponge as in Natural sponge. Foam rubber is simulated sponge. The result will be obvious once the iron touches it. Natural sponge does not melt at solder temps. If not disclosed on the packaging, don't use it!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2012-01-08 04:43
    Metcal supplies what appear to be cellulose sponges for their equipment.
  • EmptyBitEmptyBit Posts: 72
    edited 2012-01-08 10:50
    Cellulose sponges are from wood fiber, and should not melt. Just avoid unmarked sponges or any that have PVA or any poly derivative.

    While makeup aisle sponges may be natural, I still think you need to hold a pinky in the air to make them work properly while cleaning the solder iron tip ! :D

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    Love your kitty there Leon. We've had a couple similar, but with deep blue eyes typical of a Blue Sealpoint.
  • Kevin WoodKevin Wood Posts: 1,266
    edited 2012-01-08 20:46
  • HughHugh Posts: 362
    edited 2012-01-09 00:33
    My top tip: if the soldering iron rolls off the bench, don't try to catch it.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2012-01-09 00:42
    Hugh wrote:
    My top tip: if the soldering iron rolls off the bench, don't try to catch it.
    Indeed. The end you grab correlates nearly 100% with which side of the peanut butter bread lands face down.

    -Phil
  • Toby SeckshundToby Seckshund Posts: 2,027
    edited 2012-01-09 02:11
    My Father used to do all of his early electronics in the loft space. In the winter it was freezing and in the summer it was baking hot, so he used a corner of the front ("best") room but had to accept the threat of "DON'T YOU MAKE ANY MESS!". One day the iron un-hooked itself from its perch and dutifully my father caught it before it got to the carpet. Yes it was the un-cold end in his paw, it took ages to heal properly.
  • SarielSariel Posts: 182
    edited 2012-01-09 11:16
    Having burned miles of solder by hand, and being an ex-flowline operator in various jobs in my life, I find a few of these tricks the core of what I do. I do have a couple suggestions for beginners tho...

    Wet sponge is a must. Don't use brillo pads, steel wool, any of that stuff. Like stated earlier, only a REAL wet sponge would work (stay away from any of them having a penchant to scream "I'M READY! Bahhh-ya-ya-ya-ya-ya-ya!" ... on the other hand... nahh. my 6 yr old would have a fit.). Get in a habit of wiping your tip after each component, and you will have less problems. If the tip is turning gold or getting crummy, wipe it. That is oxidization, and can cause pitting and cold joints.

    Best way I found to do it is to place your tip on the solder joint first, add a small amount of solder after holding it there VERY briefly to form what is called a "Heat Bridge". This will allow the transer of heat to the leg of the component and the board correctly, and give you good flow. Once this is done, and you see the solder "sink" into the hole, add the rest of the solder.

    Pay attention to your temps.. "One heat setting fits all" kind of thinking will get you into trouble more often than not. If you are soldering onto a large ground plane, often times a bigger tip/more heat is the only way to get good flow. On the other end of that spectrum, small components and small traces will fry out with too much heat or time with the iron.

    Try several different tip styles, and stick with what works for you for the given application. Don't try to use a big tip on SMT thinking "Aw... It'll be ok". It won't be.

    Use sockets. Since you are making a protoboard, you will thank yourself later on It is another layer of protection for when learning how to solder. Plus, if you make a mistake and fry an IC down the road while prototyping, you are not dead in the water.

    I rarely use them anymore, but heatsinks are an excellent idea for beginners. This can be anything from something you purchase, to a simple alligator clip on the the lead you are soldering, on the component side of the board. This will help to dissapate the heat, and prevent components from burning up before you power them up.

    The toothbrush and ISO Idea is tried and true. Just keep in mind that some components are not very friendly to getting moist, even after they dry (transformers, inductors, switches, etc.). try to clean the board, then solder these in place if you are expecting to have to do a hard scrub on the board. Many board houses solder all "Liquid Safe" components, wash the boards by submersion, then hand solder the other components by hand, then clean with the ISO. Using 30% stuff is good in a pinch, but if you find a white residue forming as you dry, you will ahve to wash it off with water.

    As for the construction of the board (and this is assuming you are using perf board), save your nipped lead ends, or at least a good share of them. They make excellent traces for connecting the components, without having to exclusively use wires.

    There are many, many other tricks out there, but this should get you started. And a good companion to the "NASA Standard" (J-STD-001ES) would be the IPC-A610 (for boards) and the IPC-A620 (for wire harness assemblies). Both with good acceptance criteria for pretty much anything you want to play with.

    And finally, buy an extra part or two. It is a good idea to have a spare, esp. when learning to solder, or even just playing with a new component for the first time.

    Good luck!
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