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What a Difference a Few Hours Makes

ercoerco Posts: 20,256
edited 2011-12-28 14:16 in Robotics
Just a few hours later...

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/truck-driver-wins-lamborghini-crashes-hours-later-220724449.html

I trust this won't happen to anyone who gets an Eddie robot to participate in the big Microsoft "killer app" contest.

"The Magic Smoke was released just hours after opening the package..."

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  • Jim FouchJim Fouch Posts: 395
    edited 2011-12-21 16:29
    Yeah, some guys can't handle the speed. Never been in a Lambo, but regularly get up to 150 or 160 on track days on my bike. Been to 182 once, but I can't say where. ;-)
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2011-12-21 16:41
    My Cessna 152 might hit 182 once, in a vertical dive...

    My Corvair could hit 115, but it felt like 200 MPH with everything rattling around.
  • Jim FouchJim Fouch Posts: 395
    edited 2011-12-21 16:56
    On a bike @ 182, you need to become one with the bike. Sitting upright, you will get pulled off the bike. Several years ago all the bike manufacturers decided to limit the speed to 186 before the government came in and limited it for them. Most race tracks don't have enough straight aways to really open up a modern sport bike. MotoGP bikes, on the other had hit 215+ at some of the tracks, but they are $1M+ per copy....weigh ~320 lbs and put out over 225HP. I'm only working with ~155HP at the rear wheel and my bike is 420+ lbs.
  • jim N8RHQjim N8RHQ Posts: 85
    edited 2011-12-21 17:02
    Jim Fouch wrote: »
    Yeah, some guys can't handle the speed. Never been in a Lambo, but regularly get up to 150 or 160 on track days on my bike. Been to 182 once, but I can't say where. ;-)

    Hey Jim, which tracks have you been to? Have you been to BeaveRun?
  • Jim FouchJim Fouch Posts: 395
    edited 2011-12-21 17:08
    jim N8RHQ wrote: »
    Hey Jim, which tracks have you been to? Have you been to BeaveRun?

    I normally do Beaver Run a few times a year. Most of my track days are at Nelson Ledges. Been to Mid-Ohio once, but it was mostly in the rain. That track is no fun.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2011-12-21 18:49
    Has anyone here ever seen a Lambo up close? I did years ago in a casino. If the guy was over 5'9", there probably wasn't enough legroom to pull his foot off the gas pedal.

    -Phil
  • Jim FouchJim Fouch Posts: 395
    edited 2011-12-21 18:53
    When I was working in Hong Kong a few years ago, I saw several. Just parked here and there like normal cars. They looked somewhat smaller in person.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2011-12-21 20:02
    Lots of supercars down here in SoCal, and I have access to a few via job perks. We have a car museum next door! Lambos are powerful brutes, but quite rough around the edges. Never the best for fit & finish, nor creature comforts, but unbeatable for head-turning and neck-snapping acceleration. Oh, and speeding tickets.
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  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2011-12-21 21:27
    erco wrote: »
    My Corvair could hit 115

    Not a chance with that "right angle" fan belt! Didn't you know they're guaranteed to break off at 85 mph. Or, maybe it could hit 115, but it would have to be down a steep hill, with no brakes, with the engine off.

    Back when I drove into Hollywood twice a week, and passed by the intersection of Beverly Glen and Santa Monica, I thought of Ernie Kovacs and Corvairs.

    -- Gordon
  • Martin_HMartin_H Posts: 4,051
    edited 2011-12-22 03:43
    Has anyone here ever seen a Lambo up close? I did years ago in a casino. If the guy was over 5'9", there probably wasn't enough legroom to pull his foot off the gas pedal.

    -Phil

    I saw one at a gas station in Nashua, New Hampshire of all places. I am tall and it did not look like a comfortable ride, but I rode in a corvette once and they are pretty cramped inside as well.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2011-12-22 08:33
    Back when I drove into Hollywood twice a week, and passed by the intersection of Beverly Glen and Santa Monica, I thought of Ernie Kovacs and Corvairs.

    -- Gordon

    When I bike through Goleta (N of Santa Barbara), I am reminded of the gory details of a Corvair rollover there in the opening of the Corvair chapter in Nader's book "Unsafe at Any Speed".

    Of course, when I go out to my garage, I am reminded of my '67 Monza buried somewhere under all my other "must-haves".
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2011-12-22 08:48
    My new favorite quote (from http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/unsafe-at-any-speed-hits-bookstores ):

    'Nader argued that the (Corvair) epitomized the triumph of "stylistic pornography over engineering integrity." '
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2011-12-22 09:21
    Talk about small. I test drove a 1974 Lotus Europa John Player Special. I was 6'1" with size 13 foot. I had to take my shoes off to drive it as the pedals were so close together, I would hit clutch, brake and throttle all at the same time with shoes on.

    I ended up buying a 1996 Fiero GT (V-6) to get over my mid-life crisis. That was a joy to drive.

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  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2011-12-22 09:55
    erco wrote: »
    Of course, when I go out to my garage, I am reminded of my '67 Monza buried somewhere under all my other "must-haves".

    Then surely a '92 Toyota Tercel with 289,000 miles is on your list. Only four (or is it five?) owners.

    I recently sold a '74 Plymouth and '73 Datsun that were my "must-haves" but collecting rust. Funnily enough, now that they're gone from the driveway, I wonder what "must" I just had to have them under! What got me to sell them was I took them on project cars with my son, but they're simply too unsafe by today's standards. For the same money -- or even less! -- I could have bought a 5 to 7 year old car that has such silly things as air bags and shoulder seat belts.

    -- Gordon
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2011-12-22 17:20
    Publison wrote: »
    I was 6'1" with size 13 foot.

    At 16 I was able to drive my step-father's '64 E-Type Jag. By 17 no such luck. I grew a couple of inches, and by 18 was 6'2". The Jag was a hard top, with no moon roof or anything else, made worse in that my height comes from my torso (waist to shoulders). Most compact cars are too small for me unless I lean the seat back.

    For my mid-life crisis I bought a '84 Mustang convertable. It was my DeLorean -- as in conking out at various times, including on the freeway -- not in a time machine sense. I traded it in for an Isuzu Trooper, you know, the one with the 4-cylinder engine that used to have issues with warped blocks. Even with the underpowered engine they used to put in those, the faulty fuel pump that required a $700 job to replace because the freaking thing is IN the fuel tank, the transmission that need to be rebuilt at 80K miles, and other issues, it was a better car than the Mustang. (I probably would have hated the Isuzu if not for the 100K mile extra warranty we had. Bet they were sorry they sold the warranty to us!)

    Nothing's as solid as that '92 Tercel that I want Erco to buy for his museum.

    -- Gordon
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2011-12-22 17:33
    erco wrote: »
    'Nader argued that the (Corvair) epitomized the triumph of "stylistic pornography

    What the heck is "stylistic pornography"? Sounds interesting, but I guess it's one of those things that really means nothing.

    I was never attracted to the Corvair's looks, this despite Tom McCahill's positive review (he said the Corvair handled better than the Porche -- Nader must have been incensed!). Back then I was much more into British sports cars, perhaps because that's what the family owned. I don't think they were any better made, and that's not even including the electrical system, which everyone knows in British cars was rubbish.

    By the late '60s I was more into Pontiacs: Firebirds, TransAms, GTOs. I never owned one myself, but they were fun to ride. Get in, buckle up, and hold on!

    -- Gordon
  • RobotWorkshopRobotWorkshop Posts: 2,307
    edited 2011-12-22 19:34
    By the late '60s I was more into Pontiacs: Firebirds, TransAms, GTOs. I never owned one myself, but they were fun to ride. Get in, buckle up, and hold on!

    Too bad Pontiac is gone. If they ever come back I'd like to see them make the original Firebirds. A few years ago they had them all at a car show nearby. We were able to walk right up to them and get all sorts of pictures. Talking to one of the people that brought them I was told that the 3rd version still runs well. Don't know about the first two.

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    One perk being right near the motor city is that there are still some unique vehicles around and you never know what will show up.

    Robert
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  • ScribblerKartScribblerKart Posts: 45
    edited 2011-12-25 14:26
    Well, thank goodness for the car crash protection ;)
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2011-12-28 14:03
    Maybe the Mayans were right about 2012. All these supercars are getting wiped out, for starters. Can mankind be far behind?

    http://autos.yahoo.com/photos/ferraris-wrecked-in-million-dollar-pileup-1323109313-slideshow/
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2011-12-28 14:13
    Oh, the CARnage! Those Ferraris ripped and crumpled like painted tinfoil.

    -Phil
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2011-12-28 14:16
    Oh, the CARnage! Those Ferraris ripped and crumpled like painted tinfoil.

    -Phil

    Excellent observation! Perhaps they were foiled-wrapped chocolate Ferraris for Chistmas...

    "No wonder they handled so poorly..."
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