Too Little, Too Late,
Mike Huselton
Posts: 746
The rest of the world has passed Parallax by. I am very sad, as the PX chip 5+ years ago was revolutionary.
I am having to abandon PX80 development for chips with a future. Very sad...
I am having to abandon PX80 development for chips with a future. Very sad...
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Is this just a troll, or do you have valid reasons for this comment?
I'm finding lots of use for the Propeller in my designs and am looking forward to the PropII when it's available.
We all miss your posts.
Sounds like someone has low blood-sugar. Need a cookie?
(That's not to say I'm patiently awaiting Prop2 [at least, trying to be patient]).
He would need to enables cookies first.
I wonder what the problem was? I also wonder what "chips with a future" means if does not include a 32 bit 80Mhz 8 cores chip. Is he talking about the Green Arrays parts, or could it be cheaper less powerful 8 bit AVR & PIC parts are the way of the future? Or could it mean Cortex parts are now the general solution for all applications? This hardware stuff it so hard to keep up with.
It's not limitless. In fact, it has some very apparent limits.
>>> It's the only chip with a choice of 175 programming languages
That list is a bit of a red herring. It includes many projects which essentially duplicate each other, and many projects which are basically new defunct.
I don't know why OP posted what he did, but posts such as Humanoido's, IMO, do more harm than help to the Propeller. Instead of trying to sell it as the ultimate last word, and ending up with disappointed end users, it would be better to have honest discussions about its' strengths and weaknesses. This is how the architecture will continue to improve in the future.
They said the same thing about 8051's too, yet the reports of demise were greatly over-rated..
A chip only really lacks a future, when the fab that makes it closes...
Wow ... Direction folks! Remember, the Prop is micro controller!
I'll more than likely, never make a PC from my Prop. But that's OK, it has so many features:
- Cost less than 10.00
- Almost every instruction takes 4 machine cycles
- Built in timers, very handy!
- Easy to calculate loop times in assembly
- Available in 40 PDIP (I'm old school, and enjoy bread boarding with DIP's)
- Current limiting IO's that have saved my micro's but more than once!
- Great community of users (that's you guys reading) who are friendly (mostly) and all knowing.
I have yet to find another tool out there in the same price range with that much 'WOW' going on?Hell, I spent 12.00 the other day to get a switch with a light bulb in it!!!!!!
... Tim
There's nothing new here, it's a continuation of non sequitur, same old twaddle, a dearth of achievement - the guy can't get with it.
It's like a lot of radio talk-show callers, "I'll never listen to you ever again, Good bye!" and the next thing you know they're back in another month using another monicker or nom de gueree.
multiple processors and the low cost are
what make the prop special to me.
It's just such a perfect fit for so many tasks.
I'd love it if it had internal flash, did not need
an external crystal for high speed precision
clocking, had more cog ram, was faster..and
could do my dirty laundry...but even so it's still
really useful :-)
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What are you gonna do with all that old, out-dated Prop stuff ?...(Not worth much money)
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I'd like to have it since your abandoning this really old stuff.(I'm a historian of sorts)
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Drop me a PM and maybe we can make a deal.
These drive-by pot-shots are baloney. Still, it would be interesting to know which gigantic manufacturer who doesn't care about discontinuing what you have in your present design he's now going to work with.
I don't know him personally. I don't know what drove this last post.
I do know he was a supportive member of the community most of the last 5 years.
In his few recent posts in the last year he has mentioned his failing health.
Maybe he just ran out of time for the puzzles many of us seem to enjoy.
I hope he finds peace and dignity with whatever struggle he now faces.
I hope he is doing OK.
The Prop is very different and can offer a few puzzles at first.
If I was designing projects to sell to the public the Prop is a uC
I would certainly find a place for in those projects. It does not fit
every idea but it really simplifies things when it is a good fit.
Maybe he got burned out with the Prop.
And look at it from a non-Parallax loyalist view. There are lots of new offerings out there ranging from the Psoc3 and 5 series to the newer ARM's or powerful and very complex Multimedia chips like the Davinci to hopped up 8051's from Silabs. It's like a giant candy store for nerds out there. The average hobbyist has more options than ever before.
JonnyMac, you take yourself and constant patroling of your Prop forum far too seriously. All these replies here amount to a tempest in a teapot. Mike or any of us are free to come & go. As he hasn't seen fit to explain himself yet, his post is just an emotional blurt; all these Prop fans running to defend the Propeller unnecessarily won't change his mind. So let him (and IT) go and lighten up.
Certainly not myself -- I'm a jokey guy! That said, I think many of us respect and appreciate what Parallax (with its $$$) provides via these forums. I would hate to see this forum go the way of so many that have become free-for-alls that ultimately chase away those that help us all the most.
The post served no purpose other than to take a shot at Parallax and its product. I think if a person is going to have the nerve to do that in Parallax's forums, they ought to have the decency to back up the assertion with useful information. And, as a person who is interested in technology, I am genuinely interested in what he thinks is "better." No chip is perfect, there are lots of good ones out there (including the Propeller); I'm interested in knowing what he thinks that is. It would be silly of me not to consider alternatives that may in fact work better in some application.
As others have pointed out this poster may have mitigating circumstances having nothing to do with technology; I accept that.
Radio Shack? When did this happen? That would be a whole lot of retail exposure if Prop boards started showing up in stores. Although, on the other hand, the 'Shack became pretty much irrelevant for me about a decade ago. The place sometimes feels like a glorified cellphone shop these days. Still, flipping through the Radio Shack catalog and visiting the stores was how I became interested in electronics so long ago...
Dude! This news is so three days ago!
http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?133909-New-packaging-and-products-for-RadioShack-stores-a-quick-look!
Also old news is the The New Posts button I just discovered two days ago that shows ALL new posts, not just those on the prop forum. Turns out there's interesting stuff in those places too.
I would have to agree, but now that they will be selling a whole lot more Parallax products, that kind of sheds a different light upon things. Now I can't wait until the Parallax products start showing up at the local Shacks. I hope my local stores will stock a wide variety of Parallax products. They stock some already, but a larger selection would be about 1000X better, especially if they started stocking Propeller products. I look forward to the change.
As for the original posting... Somebody grab a rope! Just kidding. I think we should all wish him well in his endless search for the greener grass. When looking at the grass on the other side, one should always remember to remove the green filter from the lens.
Bruce
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Shameful of me to try and pick up some Prop stuff cheap.
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I don't get the point about a chip with no future.The Prop put the other guys into a frenzy to make a multi-core micro.
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Maybe someone is making a Quantum micro-controller that doesn't need a $10 Million dollar liquid helium cooling system?
Walt, seems like the perfect opportunity to be shameful.
Mike, sounds like you have some projects in hand for which the Propeller is not
suitable. No one will blame you for proceeding to get them done with a
different device if that is what it takes to get the job done cheaper, quicker,
smaller or whatever the criteria may be. That's just sound engineering.
However I think Parallaxians would like you to elaborate on your statements
a little:
Who exactly?
There are few chips out there that do what the Propeller does in the way the
Propeller does it. When it comes to muti-core devices with deterministic timing
and close coupling of CPU cores to IO pins only X comes to mind.
Fact is, I'm so happy making things with the Prop1 that I'm not sure what I'd do with a Prop2.
My only advice to Parallax is to keep cranking out Props!