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Lightweight Gripper

ercoerco Posts: 20,256
edited 2011-08-25 19:20 in Robotics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJv1eEE8ww

15 grams vs. 65 for the alu Solarbotics claw.

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  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2011-08-10 09:09
    I'm not sure if that's a fair comparison.

    The Solarbotics claw brings the contact points together closer to parallel than your claw.

    How do the two compare in the ability to pick things up?

    Duane
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2011-08-10 09:25
    I ain't done yet, Countryboy! :)

    Parallel gripper on the way. FWIW, the Solarbotics gripper only uses the servo through ~90 degrees. I'm after more like 180, which gives twice the gripping power.
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2011-08-10 16:30
    For a nice lightweight gripper nothing beats the $1 version of the venerable "Plastic Robotic Claw" on sale now at a Dollar Tree near you.

    It has a shorter "arm," and no rubber tips for the fingers, but otherwise it's basically the same as they've always been.

    -- Gordon
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2011-08-22 08:34
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxQgnY4upgw

    Version 2.0 has parallel-closing jaws and weighs in at 20.6 grams.
  • Martin_HMartin_H Posts: 4,051
    edited 2011-08-22 18:57
    That's a nice improvement. The good part about connecting the linkages forward on the finger is the mechanical advantage you get versus moving them from the joint. But the servo mounting looks harder to do. Do you think it is possible to turn the servo 90 degrees and mount it back on the base where the fingers are attached? That would angle the linkages and reduce the jaw movement a bit.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2011-08-23 08:43
    Anything's possible. For me, it's a quest for minimalism and keeping the weight low. IMHO, to make an efficient arm with a decent payload, you must start at the gripper and work backwards, keeping everything as light as possible.

    There's a balancing act to match the servo's power & torque abilities to the geometry & strength of the (UGH!) plastic gripper linkage. Different pivots will change the speed, opening range & max grip force of the arm.
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2011-08-25 07:46
    erco,

    I like you parallel gripper. Very nice.
    erco wrote: »
    you must start at the gripper and work backwards

    I agree, the gripper seems like a good place to begin building an arm. But what are you going to grip?

    I've been amazed how difficult it is to pick things up with a robotic arm.

    I have one of these beasts.

    sap.jpg

    I was amazed how hard it was to pick up an empty soda can with it.

    It's a good thing I have a mini-frig next to my computer because I'm afraid my Dr. Pepper fetching robot is a ways off.

    I do think the arm would have a better chance of success at picking up soda cans if the gripper was modified to curve around the can.

    I bring this up because I think your arm will more likely be successful if you build it with the items you wish it to manipulate in mind.

    Have you decided what type of items you plan to manipulate with your robot arm? (Other than human fingers.)

    Duane
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2011-08-25 08:29
    @Duane: I agree 100% . Grippers are a science all by themselves. I've barely scratched the surface. Just getting started! :)
    550 x 413 - 52K
  • Tony B.Tony B. Posts: 356
    edited 2011-08-25 14:50
    I've been wrestling with what Duane has brought up. It seems to me that it is hard to have a generic gripper that will work well in many different scenarios. The grippers I have studied all seem to be specific to a need. So it got me to thinking would it be possible/worthwhile to build a robotic arm that had the ability to change its grippers like a CNC mill can with a tool changer? If the arm detects it is to move a soda can it changes to that gripper. If a wooden block it switches to a gripper like Erco's. If stackable wooden robots another. Sure would make our robotic arms more useful to a broader range of uses.

    Tony
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2011-08-25 15:15
    Tony,

    I believe industrial robot arms do have interchangeable grippers. I think the technical term is "end effector" or something like that.

    Have you seen the balloon with coffee grounds gripper? I've wondered about having the normal gripper pick up a coffee grounds gripper when it's needed.

    Another thought I've had is to use different shaped pads to attach to the inner gripper surface to aid the gripper in getting a good "grip". For example, to pick up a soda can (hopefully full), I'd use a curved pad to match the contours of the can.

    I know this (end effector design) is a huge area of robot research.

    Duane
  • Tony B.Tony B. Posts: 356
    edited 2011-08-25 17:46
    Duane,

    I hadn't come across the interchangeable grippers in my research, but I knew I had a great idea. :smile:

    I have seen the coffee gripper. I believe it was in Nuts&Volts that I read a really good article about how to build one and use it. I haven't come across it yet in my past issues. I wonder how stable the release nature of the coffee gripper is? In other words, can I pick-up plastic army men and set them back down and they remain standing.

    I have thought about using inflatable pads on a parallel gripper like Erco's to let it conform to the object but seemed like to much overhead and weight to use them.

    I'm going to take your advice and work from the gripper down. So I need to design a light weight gripper that can pick-up plastic army men and then set them down and they remain standing. Give me a couple of hours.:lol:

    Tony
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2011-08-25 19:20
    The Doc Oc in me says to let the gripper fingers conform to whatever item is picked up.

    All will become frighteningly clear, but it will be too late.

    Mwah-ha-ha...
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