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DHS: Imported Tech Tainted with Backdoor Attack Tools

edited 2011-07-13 20:18 in General Discussion
DHS: Imported Tech Tainted with Backdoor Attack Tools


DHS admitted that backdoor malware comes embedded in brand-new imported electronics. Yet that security threat has been real for years; a Defense Science Board warned about a tainted supply chain for tech devices and components back in 2005.



This article bothers me because we received a new computer years ago and though we had Norton Antivirus, we were attacked by a virus and I didn't feel we were at fault. I'm suspicious now because of the article.

http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/76262

How are you going to know? How are you going to know if that new computer you buy comes with embedded malware?

Comments

  • kwinnkwinn Posts: 8,697
    edited 2011-07-12 17:33
    Yep, and what's the first thing that happens when the link you posted is followed?
  • Peter KG6LSEPeter KG6LSE Posts: 1,383
    edited 2011-07-12 21:24
    And ppl wonder Why I want to move from the US . canada is looking really good About aboot now ...
  • Kevin WoodKevin Wood Posts: 1,266
    edited 2011-07-13 00:20
    How does moving to Canada fix the problem?

    Mind you, they've got beer, eh, so it wouldn't be a complete waste. :)
  • zoopydogsitzoopydogsit Posts: 174
    edited 2011-07-13 02:05
    No surprises really, especially with low cost development/production/delivery. Some developers I've spoken to "google" for code examples coz it's quicker to develop that way......

    The big question is who is behind these;
    1. Individuals (rogue developers in companies)
    2. Poor controls (external hackers updating souce code, extremely poorly designed architecture (allowing non-authorized individuals to update the device), or poorly written code full of vulnerabilities)
    3. Organized crime (either working with folks in the company (extortion/bribary/plants etc) to have it developed/added.
    4. State Sponsored (one or more countries having a policy of placing back doors into infrastructure so that they can access it as needed (aka. cyber war, intelligence gathering, intellectual property theft, political system manipulation (by targetting individuals / relationships), financial system disruption (loss of faith in electronic banking/online trading/online transactions), etc)

    Personally it's probably a combination of all of these. In the past it would have been 1, 2 and 3 only. Though in the last 5 year or so I think we are seeing more 2,3&4. As I've heard, there are a lot of very smart poor programmers in the former soviet union, who unfortunately get hired by organized crime, and it's a lot easier for them to do cyber crime/extortion than robbing a bank, kidnapping, trading in illegal goods.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2011-07-13 03:42
    Windows and Norton Security at the consumer level isn't really secure, may never be secure. I suspect you have to be a corporate purchaser to get the kind of security that you desire.

    Since Linux offers a wide array of utilities (These migrated over from Unix) and some very sophisticated security options for free, I have gone there to get DIY sanity. It helps greatly to [1] not be a MS system as that is what is the target of choice and [2] to have a Unix-like file system which allows partitions to lock out unwanted hackers.

    Even then, Java seems to still be blamed for a lot of snoopy activity and any Browser is a rather weak line in your internet use.
  • Peter KG6LSEPeter KG6LSE Posts: 1,383
    edited 2011-07-13 08:44
    Kevin Wood wrote: »
    How does moving to Canada fix the problem?

    Mind you, they've got beer, eh, so it wouldn't be a complete waste. :-)


    Perhaps I miss spoke .

    What I was saying was I have to hate how Our Gov is being like russia was 40 Years ago .

    not this article but ones it linked too.

    like confiscating Laptops at the border Ect .




    this news however is the ONLY good news that I have seen on the DHS doing there job .

    not" good news" per say but not the strip me at the LAX news . but a a good thing they did by descovering this .


    andf Loopy Iam happy to say I have decided to NOT buy a new mac . not cause of OSX but I need a rugged lappy and the toughbook I got is just that .
    Us BSD UNIX LINUX dudes and dudetts are the ones who are in the know about how to mitigate these issues .
    With my new computer Ill bne useing AES 256 .... and Debian ... ( ubuntu is to short lived per release
  • kwinnkwinn Posts: 8,697
    edited 2011-07-13 20:02
    Kevin Wood wrote: »
    How does moving to Canada fix the problem?

    Mind you, they've got beer, eh, so it wouldn't be a complete waste. :-)

    And good beer at that.
  • Kevin WoodKevin Wood Posts: 1,266
    edited 2011-07-13 20:18

    Perhaps I miss spoke .

    What I was saying was I have to hate how Our Gov is being like russia was 40 Years ago .

    Ok, now I get it. Since it's been known for some time that a lot of the counterfit and/or pre-infected stuff comes out of Asia, I thought maybe you were saying that Canada had some way to bypass this with Canandian manufactured goods.
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