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BatangBatang Posts: 234
edited 2011-06-13 09:42 in Propeller 1
Does anyone has a recommended PCB trace layout for this part?

Thanks.

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  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2011-06-12 01:22
    Duplicate post!
  • BatangBatang Posts: 234
    edited 2011-06-12 03:56
    Different forum, different thread, same question however!
  • MacTuxLinMacTuxLin Posts: 821
    edited 2011-06-12 08:20
    Hi,

    I use the LQFP version with 8 mil (IO pins). So far, no problems for me.
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2011-06-12 08:40
    Batang wrote: »
    Does anyone has a recommended PCB trace layout for this part?

    Thanks.

    Check the layout that Parallax uses for the PropStick:

    http://www.parallax.com/Store/Microcontrollers/PropellerChips/tabid/142/ProductID/411/List/0/Default.aspx?SortField=ProductName,ProductName

    It is Open Source, and the DipTrace file is available for download on that page.
  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2011-06-12 08:45
    Whatever you use for QFN make sure it has a placement silkscreen. :)
    Attached is my eagle library file. Use at your own risk.
  • BatangBatang Posts: 234
    edited 2011-06-12 09:48
    HI jazzed,

    Thanks for that, the layout was as I thought but wanted to confirm, I assume that the 4 mounting lands under the device as indicated in the parallax doc can be connected to vcc?

    Cheers
  • BatangBatang Posts: 234
    edited 2011-06-12 09:52
    I use the LQFP version with 8 mil (IO pins)

    Space is an issue so hence QFN part although I have used the LQFP in the past.

    Cheers.
  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2011-06-12 10:05
    Batang wrote: »
    HI jazzed,

    Thanks for that, the layout was as I thought but wanted to confirm, I assume that the 4 mounting lands under the device as indicated in the parallax doc can be connected to vcc?

    Cheers
    As I understand it, the pad is not connected and can be used for VDD, ground, or any other purpose.

    My device has the center mounting pad connected to ground.
    You can change it in the Eagle Library editor as you probably already know.

    The purpose of the pad is to help dissipate heat since "the chip" is literally attached to it.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2011-06-12 10:09
    It is connected to ground on most other devices. Anyway, connecting it to ground can make routing to ground pads easier. For a prototype it can be useful to put a large via in the pad, so that the device can be hand-soldered and the pad attached by heating the via and feeding solder into it. It helps to have something like a Metcal soldering station, which can deliver plenty of heat.
  • BatangBatang Posts: 234
    edited 2011-06-12 10:15
    Going by the datasheet there are 4 mounting pads not a single large one, is this correct as I have not seen the underside of the device.
  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2011-06-12 10:28
    Batang wrote: »
    Going by the datasheet there are 4 mounting pads not a single large one, is this correct as I have not seen the underside of the device.
    I believe that's the solder paste recommendation. The physical part has one big pad.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2011-06-12 10:37
    The stencil for the solder paste is usually gridded over the pad, to prevent the chip floating when the paste melts.
  • WBA ConsultingWBA Consulting Posts: 2,935
    edited 2011-06-12 18:37
    The Propstick layout was what I was going to suggest to use as a guide as it is a well proven layout. I also use the QFN and made just a few light changes. Mainly, I lengthened the pads so they extend past the body of the part so that you can reflow the solder connection with an iron. Since a QFN is not designed to have solder on the perimeter, this is the only method to make minor rework possible with an iron. Otherwise, you have to use rework machine (hot air or IR) to rework the device properly.

    I connect the large pad to ground. I also used a windowed aperture on the large pad as the spec sheet recommends. This is an industry standard. The main purpose is to reduce the overall volue of paste at the center pad, so that it doesn't prevent the part from settling down on each land, which would leave opens. You can see more details on the thread where I started discussions about my M44D40+ module. It is in production now and I started selling them at UPEW. I have pictures of each step of the build process and will eventually post them up on the forums. There was also a thread just like this one started a while back that has more details on the QFN44 land patterns specifically. I posted a zip file there that might be helpful.
  • BatangBatang Posts: 234
    edited 2011-06-13 05:21
    A bit of propeller art.

    Enjoy:)
    1024 x 492 - 77K
  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2011-06-13 08:33
    Nice board :)
  • BatangBatang Posts: 234
    edited 2011-06-13 09:42
    Cheers jazzed,

    I will be posting it in full on the semiconductor forum later along with a product description.
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