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QuickStart Default Program

SSteveSSteve Posts: 808
edited 2011-06-10 18:21 in Propeller 1
I looked at the QuickStart product page and didn't see a download for its default software. Is that available somewhere?

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  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,401
    edited 2011-06-05 20:49
    This code should have been posted on the QuickStart product page already. My apologies for that - seems like we skipped a step on the product release process.

    I'll see that this code is posted by noon tomorrow Pacific.

    Ken Gracey
  • PaulPaul Posts: 263
    edited 2011-06-10 06:41
    I hate to belittle a point but... What part of "Quick" has to do with sending a "Demo" code written in assembly???? If I was a new user and presented with this, the "$20 board" would be in the junk box in about 5 minutes.
  • SSteveSSteve Posts: 808
    edited 2011-06-10 10:29
    There's tons of demo code for the Propeller. That's just the default program that comes with the QuickStart so it does something out of the box. And PASM is one of the two native languages for the Propeller. What's wrong with having the default program illustrate how to use the two together? If I was a new user I'd think this would pique my interest.

    But everything is a work-in-progress so I'm sure Parallax will take your feedback into consideration. Maybe they can include a variation of the BlinkWithCogs program from the PE Kit on the QuickStart downloads page to demonstrate how easy it is to perform tasks with multiple cogs.
  • Tracy AllenTracy Allen Posts: 6,666
    edited 2011-06-10 11:28
    Hi Ken,

    Nice packaging, Parallax continues to have a great creative art department.

    The link to the quickstart printed on the back of the box currently leads to a "Page not found"...
    http://www.parallaxsemiconductor.com/quickstart

    A search leads to the real deal...
    http://www.parallaxsemiconductor.com/products/quickstart
  • PaulPaul Posts: 263
    edited 2011-06-10 11:32
    Thanks for the reply. As you said "everything is a work-in-progress". I come across as a bit abrasive sometimes and don't mean to put anyone's efforts down. I really like the Quickstart board a lot and think the quality is great and will be buying more in the future.
    I just discovered the Quickstart1 through Quickstart6 lessons so Parallax is making more and more material available for this board. Quickstart3 is missing the E555... file.
    I'd like to see the list of lessons somewhere on Parallaxsemiconductor.com also. Maybe I missed it.

    The geek in me is off to make a "Cylon / Kitt" demo and have the LED stop on the button you push.
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2011-06-10 11:38
    While I think PASM is a great feature of the Propeller, I think Paul makes a good point.

    Spin is much easier to understand. I think it would be nice to have a Spin only version of the touch button demo.

    I remember early in my Propeller education being very excited by being able to increase and decrease the rate a LED flashed by pressing buttons.

    The QuickStart makes this possible without any extra hardware. Super cool!

    BTW, I received my QuickStart boards yesterday. They're great.

    Thanks Parallax.

    Duane
  • schillschill Posts: 741
    edited 2011-06-10 13:14
    I wonder if the choice of using PASM was because of the target audience for the QuickStart. This is part of Parallax's plan to reach out beyond the hobbyists. With all of the "complaining" in the forum about needing to use SPIN instead of C, maybe they want to downplay SPIN a bit so that people are not turned away by a non-standard language. This also fits with the ongoing development of C for the Propeller.

    [By the way, I like SPIN but I don't think I'm part of the real target market for the QuickStart.]
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2011-06-10 13:28
    Edit: Don't use this version. I posted a better version below.

    I wanted to see if I could tame the flashing of the LEDs.

    I made a few changes. I think it helps.
    CON
      _CLKMODE = XTAL1 + PLL16X
      _CLKFREQ = 80_000_000
     
    OBJ
      Buttons          : "Touch Buttons"
     
    PUB Main 
      Buttons.start(_CLKFREQ / 100)                         ' Launch the touch buttons driver sampling 100 times a second
      dira[23..16]~~                                        ' Set the LEDs as outputs 
      repeat
        result := 0                                    
        repeat 500     
          result |= Buttons.State                           ' Keep LEDs lit if button touched once during loop
          outa[23..16] := result                            ' Light the LEDs when touching the corresponding buttons 
    

    I'm sure there are better ways to debouce the touch pads. I just wanted to give it a try before reading what others have done.

    Duane
  • Duane DegnDuane Degn Posts: 10,588
    edited 2011-06-10 13:48
    Okay, This time I think I've killed the flash.
    PUB Main | temp
      Buttons.start(_CLKFREQ / 100)                         ' Launch the touch buttons driver sampling 100 times a second
      dira[23..16]~~                                        ' Set the LEDs as outputs
      temp := 0
      repeat
        result := temp
        temp := 0                                    
        repeat 100     
          temp |= Buttons.State                             ' Keep LEDs lit if button touched once during loop
          result |= temp                                    ' Or if the button had been touched previous loop
          outa[23..16] := result                            ' Light the LEDs when touching the corresponding buttons 
    

    Duane

    Edit: I've made several other modifications to the code. I have a thread in the Propeller forum with the code.
  • BumpBump Posts: 592
    edited 2011-06-10 14:40
    Hi Ken,

    Nice packaging, Parallax continues to have a great creative art department.

    The link to the quickstart printed on the back of the box currently leads to a "Page not found"...
    http://www.parallaxsemiconductor.com/quickstart

    A search leads to the real deal...
    http://www.parallaxsemiconductor.com/products/quickstart

    Should be working now, thanks for pointing this out.
    http://www.parallaxsemiconductor.com/quickstart
  • David CarrierDavid Carrier Posts: 294
    edited 2011-06-10 18:21
    SSteve,
    The QuickStart is a simplistic Propeller design that doesn't dedicate any pins to any specific function, besides those inherent to the Propeller itself. There are eight LEDs that reflect the state of eight I/O pins, and eight resistive touch-sensitive buttons that have almost no effect on the I/O pins. There is no predicated function, the board is a basis to run whatever program you need.

    While the resistive touch-sensitive buttons have almost no effect on the I/O pins, you can read them with the "Touch Buttons.spin" object available in the Touch Buttons LED Demo program available from http://www.parallaxsemiconductor.com/products/quickstart. Since the QuickStart doesn't come preloaded with firmware or have any default function, there isn't a default program for it. The Touch Buttons LED Demo does simultaneously use the LEDs and the touch buttons, which demonstrates most of the functionality of the board.


    Paul,
    The Touch Buttons LED Demo includes the Touch Buttons object "Touch Buttons.spin", which is written in assembly language to allow it to work over a large clock range. The demo itself "Touch Buttons LED Demo v1.0.spin" and it is a few lines of code in Spin. You can use it as a template to make top objects that use the Touch Buttons object.

    — David Carrier
    Parallax Inc.
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