Spinneret Web Server Geting started help

chris jones · 2011-02-04 15:24

Hello

i just got my Spinneret Web Server in the mal today and went to hook it up but i cant seem to get the guy talking to my prop tool the lights for TX and RX are not on.is there anything i need to do to make this work.

chris jones · 2011-02-04 16:21

i keep geting the error saying propeller chip not found eror

Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) · 2011-02-04 16:27

How are you powering the Spinneret?

-Phil

Mike G · 2011-02-04 16:43

Are you using the prop plug? Do you have a network cable plugged in to the RJ45 port?

chris jones · 2011-02-04 16:44

with my propeller demo board

Mike G · 2011-02-04 16:51

You're power the Spinneret with your Propeller Demo board? If so, explain your connections or provide a picture.

Do you have a prop plug? Is the Spinneret connected to your local network?

chris jones · 2011-02-04 16:55

yes its kind of a strange setup but we are snowed in here in tx so i had to use the parts i had at home

the setup is simple the vss is jumped to a bread boardboard
the vdd is jumped to a bread board board
the prop plug and web server is connected to power and ground on the connected breadboard

Mike G · 2011-02-04 17:04

I honestly have no idea what you're doing. Why is the prop plug connected to a bread board? Vss and Vdd is connected to what Spinneret Pins/Jumper? This is how I have the Spinneret wired.
http://www.agaverobotics.com/spinneret/controlpanel.htm

The prop plug is connected to the prop plug 4 pin connection, J2. I have 5V going into J6, positive on pin 2 and ground on pin 3

chris jones · 2011-02-04 17:07

wow mine is hooked up in a very dif way. how are you hooking your prop board in ?

Mike G · 2011-02-04 17:13

I'm not using a prop board, just a Spinneret, Prop plug, power on J6, and a network cable. Can you see the video stream?

You can power the Spinneret with 3 to 3.3V. You have to connect J1 - Pin 1 to 3 - 3.3V and pin 2 to ground.

Saying

wow mine is hooked up in a very dif way

Does not help me help you. Explain what you're doing.

chris jones · 2011-02-04 17:14

working on geting you a picture i just dont have the best camera

Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) · 2011-02-04 17:17

Why have you not plugged the Prop Plug directly into the Spinneret? (Or did I miss something in your explanation?)

-Phil

Mike G · 2011-02-04 17:17

Just write out your connections. ie, I have +3V going from [descriptive blank] to [descriptive blank].

chris jones · 2011-02-04 17:18

wait a light buld give me 1 sec

chris jones · 2011-02-04 17:21

WOW i just fed my problem it was not hooked up wrong but i was going about it the hard way its working now i will still upload my picture so you guys can see what a noob i am

Mike G · 2011-02-04 17:26

Dude you lost me... It was hooked up correctly but you went about it the hard way? Glad you have it working.

chris jones · 2011-02-04 17:29

yeah i was hooking up extra wires when i did not need to it worked the same way for power but the pins for RX and TX were hooked up wrong. when i ran the propeller tool it did not see the propeller chip so power was good but communication was bad.

sorry to post such a stupid question...................................

chris jones · 2011-02-04 20:38

ok i am using the DHCP object and soem exmaple code located here

http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?127298-HTTP-Demo-(updated-11-22-2010-12-35am)

is there any reason i can not ping the ip address that i coded into the device

Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) · 2011-02-04 20:48

Try the code listed here:

http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?129127-DEMO-Easy-HTML-with-the-Spinneret&highlight=dhcp

It's what I've been working with, and it responds to a ping. Just remember not to include the HTTP port number in the IP address you're pinging.

-Phil

chris jones · 2011-02-04 21:10

ok cool i can ping the device but can not see anything in a web browser

Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) · 2011-02-04 21:15

For use with a web browser, you have to include the HTTP port number in the address, e.g. 192.168.0.50:3456

-Phil

chris jones · 2011-02-04 21:16

ok i have looked over the documentation is there another manual that i am missing ? i do web development for a liveing and i should have known this.

Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) · 2011-02-04 21:23

There's documentation?

Maybe there is; I haven't seen it (or looked for it). Beau's thread is the only thing I've gone on.

chris jones wrote:

i do web development for a liveing and i should have known this.

Not necessarily. Most web servers use port 80, which is what your browser will default to if you don't specify it. But incoming SYNs to port 80 are often blocked by routers, firewalls, or even one's ISP. So, for this kind of work from a home network, another port is almost always used. The choice of 3456 is entirely arbitrary.

-Phil

chris jones · 2011-02-04 21:25

where do i set the port or can i use any port ?

I want to use port 8801 so i go to my web browser and type
192.***.40.***:8801

but this returns page can not be displayed do i need to foward this from my router

Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) · 2011-02-04 21:28

In Beau's top-level program:

CON
    _clkfreq = 80_000_000
    _clkmode = xtal1 + pll16x
    
    socket = 0
[color=red]    listenPort = 3456'&#9472;&#9472;&#9472;&#9516;&#9472;&#9472; Your port of choice goes here ; typically between 0 and 65535[/color]
'                        &#9474;      Note: If you use port 80, then you don't need to specify
{                        &#9500;&#9472;&#9472;&#9488;         the ':xxxx' at the end of the HTTP address, however 
   http://24.253.241.231:xxxx         some IP's block port 80.  In your router you will  
          &#9492;&#9472;&#9472;&#9472;&#9472;&#9472;&#9472;&#9472;&#9472;&#9472;&#9472;&#9472;&#9472;&#9508;              need to configure it so that the port is forwarded.
                       &#9474;
                       This number can be found at some place like...
                       
   http://whatismyipaddress.com

   Note: The Above method gets you on the entire web, if you just want local network access to
         the Spinneret, then you don't need to use port forwarding, and you can use the static
         IP address instead.  You still need to specify the port (':xxxx') if it's something
         other than port 80.

   http://192.168.0.50:xxxx

   or (if using port 80)... 
 
   http://192.168.0.50        
                          
}

chris jones · 2011-02-04 21:36

Thanks, sorry i did not look befor i posted i think i need to fill my coffie cup back up.

chris jones · 2011-02-06 09:45

Hello

can anyone tell me what the J6 PIN 1 is for......

Te datasheet states that its a IOs erial port can this be used for a LCD ?

Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) · 2011-02-06 10:21

That's a general-purpose I/O pin controlled by P22 on the Prop. The MOSFET is configured as a level translator: 5V I/O on the J1 side; 3.3V, on the Prop side. You can use this pin for an LCD, a sensor, or anything else that uses a single pin for communication. However, since J1 is also where the board gets its power, you will have to use a Y-cablle (splitter) if you connect another device to this port.

As an alternative, you could also supply 5V power through the daughterboard socket (J1). Parallax carries a daughterboard with a wall-transformer input (PWR-I/O-DB) that can be used to power the Spinneret. It requires connecting three of its configuration header pins together to bring power to the daughterboard socket. It also provides six three-pin servo-style headers, four of which are connected to dedicated Prop Pins (but without the voltage translation).

-Phil

chris jones · 2011-02-17 15:42

ok , new question can the web server be put into a sleep mode untill something pings it maybe.i am running into some power issues on battery power.

Mike G · 2011-02-17 19:31

I don't recall seeing a wake on LAN feature in the datasheet.

Spinneret Web Server Geting started help

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