OK- A more specific DipTrace question - Component Editor
Don M
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I am trying to make my way through designing a new component- specifically a FTDI FT4232 Quad USB device.
Here's my problem- in trying to group the pins I can't get them to cooperate. I am trying to figure out what it is that the program looks for in order to group them together. All the pins labeled "GND" all group together fine.
This IC has 4 identical 8 pin ports. I am trying to get hem to group together. For simplicity here I will label only a few-
TXD
RXD
DSR
DCD
DTR
If I label them as such without differentiating them they will group together- all the TXD's, RXD's etc. However I wouldn't have any way of separating them logically. I tried using A/TXD, A/RXD etc. and then selected the "/" separator in the "Make Buss" function but it will not recognize the "/". I also tried A_TXD, A_RXD, etc. I also tried ARXD, ATXD hoping that it would just group all the "A's" but that didn't work.
What am I missing or doing wrong here? The tutorials and help instructions don't really shed any light on this.
Just for an example I opened up an already made component (the P32X8 prop). I went ahead and applied the "Make Buss" routine and it recognized all the ports that were labeled P0, P1, P2, P3, etc. so they could be all grouped together.
I am thinking I am going to have to just label all the pins of each port the same such as "A" for all port 1, "B" for all port 2 etc. just so they will group, then place them where I want in the component than go back and relabel them correctly.
Sorry for the confusing convoluted question.
~Don
Here's my problem- in trying to group the pins I can't get them to cooperate. I am trying to figure out what it is that the program looks for in order to group them together. All the pins labeled "GND" all group together fine.
This IC has 4 identical 8 pin ports. I am trying to get hem to group together. For simplicity here I will label only a few-
TXD
RXD
DSR
DCD
DTR
If I label them as such without differentiating them they will group together- all the TXD's, RXD's etc. However I wouldn't have any way of separating them logically. I tried using A/TXD, A/RXD etc. and then selected the "/" separator in the "Make Buss" function but it will not recognize the "/". I also tried A_TXD, A_RXD, etc. I also tried ARXD, ATXD hoping that it would just group all the "A's" but that didn't work.
What am I missing or doing wrong here? The tutorials and help instructions don't really shed any light on this.
Just for an example I opened up an already made component (the P32X8 prop). I went ahead and applied the "Make Buss" routine and it recognized all the ports that were labeled P0, P1, P2, P3, etc. so they could be all grouped together.
I am thinking I am going to have to just label all the pins of each port the same such as "A" for all port 1, "B" for all port 2 etc. just so they will group, then place them where I want in the component than go back and relabel them correctly.
Sorry for the confusing convoluted question.
~Don
Comments
P0/TXD
P1/RXD
P2_DSR
P3_DCD
It would group these pins together regardless if I had the "/" or "_" checked or un-checked. Didn't matter. It would always group these 4 together. If I changed the first character to "A" it still works the same. It seems as though it needs to have a single alpha and then followed by a number in order to work. It doesn't pay any attention to the "/" or "_" delimiters.
Strange. Any ideas?
BTW it's the latest version I am using- 2.1.0.7
A0_TXD
A1_RXD
A2_RTS
A3_CTS
.
.
A7_RI
B0_TXD
B1_RXD
.
.
B7_RI
And now it groups the "A's" separate from the "B's". I used the underscore to separate the characters to make it easier to read.
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I'm just starting to use it myself.
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I don't know why the Component and Pattern Editor seem so much harder to use over the Schematic and PCB lay-out.
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I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one having difficulties with these two parts of the software (component & pattern)
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If we could just find a cheaper way to make ONE-OF PCB's for prototyping