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Help explain this circuit (variable speed drill)

mparkmpark Posts: 1,315
edited 2010-08-21 17:35 in General Discussion
I'm trying to understand the speed control circuit of a variable speed drill (AC powered) with the ultimate aim of controlling it via Propeller. There's this sort of schematic printed on it:

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I've redrawn it here:

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Points 1 and 3 are the power cord. There are two switches; one closes when you start to pull the trigger, the second closes once the trigger is pulled all the way.
I am guessing that the two right-pointing arrows go to a variable resistance as set by the trigger.

Questions:
1. What is the double-diode-looking thingie, and why does it have a third leg floating?
2. Does the schematic (such as it is) make sense? How does it work?

Thanks for any insights.

Post Edited (mpark) : 8/4/2010 11:04:44 AM GMT
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Comments

  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2010-08-04 11:27
    It's a TRIAC:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIAC

    I remember when they first became available, around 1970. I bought a couple from the RCA distributor and built a similar speed controller for my electric drill.

    The schematic is wrong, the gate should be connected to the pot. I can't remember the exact arrangement but you should be able to find it. I'd use opto-isolators if it is to be controlled by a Propeller.

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    Leon Heller
    Amateur radio callsign: G1HSM

    Post Edited (Leon) : 8/4/2010 11:37:52 AM GMT
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2010-08-04 15:42
    To interface to a Prop, you yould use a non-zero-cross opto triac, like the MOC3020. The Prop will also need to be able to sense zero crossings on the AC line using either a small transformer or an optoisolator. By pulsing the opto triac, you turn it and the main triac on. Then, when the AC line crosses zero, the triacs will switch off. By controlling how far in advance of each zero crossing you pulse the opto triac, you can control the speed of the motor.

    -Phil
  • BRBR Posts: 92
    edited 2010-08-05 01:37
    I got a bit of education on this topic by reading this thread.
  • mparkmpark Posts: 1,315
    edited 2010-08-06 16:07
    Thanks all. I now have a Propeller controlling the speed of my drill.

    One problem though: when I turn the system on or off, the drill runs for a short time. This happens about half the time. I'd prefer it not run at all unless told to. I'm using the circuit below (except it's 120V across the load). Any suggestions?


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  • PJAllenPJAllen Banned Posts: 5,065
    edited 2010-08-21 17:35
    I think the load should be between MT1 and Neutral (AC-), as opposed to being between Hot (AC+) and MT2. Also, as this is for an inductive load, there should be a "snubber" across the triac.

    Post Edit -- A "snubber" is analogous, you might figure, to a free-wheeling diode placed across a relay coil, etc.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snubber
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