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$WMc%$WMc% Posts: 1,884
edited 2010-06-27 17:00 in General Discussion
Hello Parallax staff

·Hows the WiFi coming?


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  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,401
    edited 2010-04-29 17:20
    Hey $WMc%,

    That makes two of us who are very interested. The complexity of this particular effort has been high, in an effort to make the user experience simple and positive.

    Kevin has been working on this project exclusively for a year now and we're nearing final prototypes. I'll ask him to reply to this thread.

    Ken Gracey

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  • John R.John R. Posts: 1,376
    edited 2010-04-29 17:26
    NO! Let him keep working! Don't let us distract him! PLEASE!

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  • Kevin McCulloughKevin McCullough Posts: 62
    edited 2010-04-29 20:17
    Hey Guys,

    We can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Right now I am working on the computer GUI, which provides simple and easy communication with the module. After that there are a couple features to wrap up on the module, then it's on to FCC certification, manufacturing, and final documentation.

    I'll try to get a demo video out to y'all soon to show off the module. (If Ken will let me... smilewinkgrin.gif )

    -Kevin
  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,401
    edited 2010-04-29 20:39
    I asked Kevin to skip the video and focus on completion, in keeping with John R's input.

    Kevin produces very complete, professional designs when he's working without interruption.

    Thanks for the guest visit to our forums, Kevster!

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  • mctriviamctrivia Posts: 3,772
    edited 2010-04-30 02:13
    do we have an expected price range and pinout?

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  • $WMc%$WMc% Posts: 1,884
    edited 2010-04-30 03:08
    Ken

    I think putting Kevin on an IV drip of strong coffee and Mountain Dew will increase his productivity. That along with an 18hr a day work schedule should bring this to market a lot faster.


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  • John R.John R. Posts: 1,376
    edited 2010-04-30 12:21
    @ mctrivia:

    Price: Enough to cover costs, and a small to moderate profit.

    Pin Out: It's wireless (i.e. WiFi). There are no pins smile.gif

    [noparse][[/noparse]pre-emptive edit] It will be ready when it's ready, and not before.

    @$WMc%:

    The whole coffee/MD thing only works for short bursts, not the long haul. Note the phrase "when he's working without interruption" in Ken's comment. Just send Keven back to his cave/lab/office/cube/work area (whatever he chooses to call it), and let him be.

    Ken has also learned the value of making sure Parallax employees have a life outside of work, as this keeps them refreshed, happy, and productive. Those 18 hour days, like caffeine, only work for so long.

    Then again, at the "day job", we make stainless tanks and related items. Some of our tanks for a pharmaceutical company are the final collection point of the amphetamine production line, catching the pills after they were complete, but before packaging. These tanks are about 30 gallons.

    We got the tanks back to be re-worked. The pills were put into, and gotten out of, the tank via small tubes. There was also a larger inspection/clean out port. We had to make this port smaller. The original size was big enough that people could fit their hand in.

    While this may have helped production rates, there were safety issues...

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  • mctriviamctrivia Posts: 3,772
    edited 2010-04-30 15:17
    John R. said...
    Price: Enough to cover costs, and a small to moderate profit.

    Pin Out: It's wireless (i.e. WiFi). There are no pins smile.gif

    There has to be pins unless it is a solar powered repeater. Otherwise it won't do anything.

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  • John R.John R. Posts: 1,376
    edited 2010-04-30 15:43
    Hence the Smiley face...

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  • $WMc%$WMc% Posts: 1,884
    edited 2010-05-01 02:05
    Ken Gracey

    I think you should let Kevin strut his stuff. A year is a long time on one project. Kevin has not received one attaboy from the forums.

    A Little forum exercise would do Kevin some good, Could You imagine being glued to something for a year.


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  • $WMc%$WMc% Posts: 1,884
    edited 2010-05-01 02:16
    Kevin McCullough

    Kevin: No matter how hard it seems, How hard it gets, The Forum is here backing you up.

    Were All counting on You,

    Never give up!

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  • Tracy AllenTracy Allen Posts: 6,666
    edited 2010-05-03 17:45
    One interesting thing at ESC West last week was a WiFi module from RFM. What caught my attention was that it was running on 2 AA batteries, with a sleep current of <10 µA and low duty cycle 200mA active to send environmental data, for a projected life of over a year. It uses UDP/IP for the data, the only option as far as I can tell. It pings the router at one minute intervals to keep the connection alive (to avoid time-consuming renegotiation). In addition to a few on-board analog and digital i/o, it has a serial port to accept data and can stream it at up to 2 Mb/s.

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  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,401
    edited 2010-05-03 19:23
    Kevin is in a meeting at this moment doing a demo of the WiFi module with our education team, engineering, and marketing. He's got our support and he knows that all of you are encouraging him to wrap it up.

    Kevin would probably like nothing more than to prepare a video for you. I've not told him "no" except to the extent that I expressed some importance over the schedule since May/June are a busy time around here (i.e. new equipment is put on-line at the end of our fiscal year; inventory transactions - new part numbers, new stock - freezes for at least a week while we do an inventory count; manufacturing areas are cleaned up; UPEW brings 200 customers to Parallax). In other words, he really does need to get a few things accomplished now so he can have a break in June. It becomes difficult to get much done around here in June. And he wants to focus on the project.

    Let me offer a couple of parallel scenarios to give some creed to Kevin's focus. Keep in mind Kevin (or Kevster, as we call him) knows how to have fun. He can play the piano with his feet and has a taste for characterizing the best beer. He keeps the work-life balance in order.

    Andy disappeared for the last month to work on his PropScope book (a replacement for Understanding Signals). We had no expectations for any regular office work (forums, e-mail, educational customer support) and this isolation and support really let him focus on the book. He was so inspired he produced an awesome set of educational projects (400 pages) that let you jump in at various levels. I had my first tour of his work on Friday and I must say "wow, I'm really impressed. Parallax and the customers will be so thankful of what he's done and we're all fortunate to have his skills, interests and enthusiasm".

    Chip designs chips. I've worked with Chip for 40 years and his major efforts are the result of intense periods of work. When he was a kid (7-8) he carried around this little blue book of physics problems and he'd solve them on the way to family events, living in his own world while all kinds of things would happen around him. The BASIC Stamps were produced in two-year periods of productivity while he was sequestered in Scandinavia. The SX-Key required at least two years and weekend-turn prototypes. And the Propeller chip was seven solid years of work. These projects were made possible by supporting Chip with solid periods of uninterrupted time blocks.

    So, Kevster will arrive on the scene with real details soon enough. He hears your support and appreciates it. I also want him to share (and to take a vacation). Almost there. . .

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  • $WMc%$WMc% Posts: 1,884
    edited 2010-05-05 01:57
    Ken Gracey

    Thanks for the feed back.

    I have all of My windows based WiFi stuff in place. I'm just waiting on the hardware, "Parallax WiFi"

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  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,401
    edited 2010-05-05 02:55
    You got it $WMc%. Only problem I see is that your Dukes of Hazard car will have to stay within reach of a wireless access point. Could be a problem with autonomous control.

    You'll be the first to get one of these.

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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2010-05-05 03:04
    I'll have to underline how important uninterrupted focus is to completing a project. I've had to put otherwise important projects on hold and out of mind completely, just so I could concentrate on project numero uno. Sometimes I let email stack up and won't even answer the phone, if there's a project I'm concentrating on. As a Parallax-affiliated non-employee, I only wish Hallmark had a sympathy card I could send Kevin for the meetings he has to attend!

    -Phil
  • $WMc%$WMc% Posts: 1,884
    edited 2010-05-08 02:22
    Ken

    ·I'm ready for the WiFi, I can't wait!



    ps:I'm with Phil; Kevin is the MAN !!

    Parallax needed a·"Mc" for this one.

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    Post Edited ($WMc%) : 5/8/2010 1:30:41 PM GMT
  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
    edited 2010-05-08 13:37
    Do I understand that this device will allow Wifi connection of my Propeller to the Internet via my router?

    Oh my... [noparse]:)[/noparse]

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  • Bill ChennaultBill Chennault Posts: 1,198
    edited 2010-05-10 11:42
    Kevin--

    At'ta boy! [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    --Bill

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  • electrosyselectrosys Posts: 212
    edited 2010-05-10 20:46
    When I think·of Parallaxs new·WIFI, I just feel I am like Humer Simpson·thinking of·food...

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  • computer guycomputer guy Posts: 1,113
    edited 2010-05-15 04:13
    Hey Ken,

    How far away do you think some sneak peaks of the board will be?



    Thanks smile.gif

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  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,401
    edited 2010-05-15 04:26
    Wow. I really shouldn't take a guess, but I'll tell you that Kevin provided a schedule that has another prototype being produced in June with production in August.

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  • computer guycomputer guy Posts: 1,113
    edited 2010-05-15 04:32
    Thanks Ken. I look forward to this being released. I am so excited about WiFi on the prop. smile.gif

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  • Bill ChennaultBill Chennault Posts: 1,198
    edited 2010-06-27 01:13
    Ken--

    It's time for my quarterly WiFi module rant/rave/plead/update!

    Others may have some slight interest, as well. [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    --Bill

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  • $WMc%$WMc% Posts: 1,884
    edited 2010-06-27 17:00
    Kevster
    ·I know its a little late, But I was hoping for a few last minute requests in the final prototype stages.
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    1: If You could place the power limiting resister for the RF output in an easy to get to place,so this value could be increased to save battery life.decreasing this value would be a violation of FCC laws and I would never do such a thing! nono.gif
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    2: Make the IP address programmable. This would make it easier for someone who's converting from CAT/5-6 cable to WiFi and already has a private LAN "10.0.xxx.xxx" smilewinkgrin.gif
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    3: A boat load of RAM to handle (buffer) the large TCP/IP stacks yeah.gif
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    ·Sorry about the other post,I was in a Beer tasting contest My self, and I couldn't find this one. Thanks Bill Chennault


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